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Citizen Meet For F-35 Discussion Set

Henry Wiebe has once again called for a citizen meeting to discuss the F-35 noise issue.

Thursday, Mar 30, 7:00 PM
Whitney School
1609 S Owyhee St, Boise, ID 83705
(Owyhee and Nez Perce south of Overland)

In case you don’t remember, Wiebe is the guy who brought a battery-powered drill to his last call to action and began running it when airport manager Rebecca Hupp began to speak, explaining to the audience the drill was the same decibel level as the F-35.

The GUARDIAN has polled three of the other four competing cities and it appears that Boise and Idaho are the only venues on the “top five” list to spend taxpayer funds in their efforts to attract the noisy fighter jets.

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  1. Chuck Thomas
    Mar 27, 2017, 9:58 pm

    In several previous years of F-35 hearings we citizens have provided abundant evidence that noise from this aircraft will render some 5,000 homes, schools & businesses uninhabitable by EPA noise standards.

    The facts have done nothing to deter F-35 proponents & their political lackeys, they stand to reap millions off the destruction & rebuilding process in the valley, they don’t care.
    What F-35 proponents & politicians do care about is profitability.

    Legal research gathered on similar cases of this nature shows that
    citizen’s strongest defense is unity behind a major class action lawsuit.

    If F-35 proponents choose to ignore the facts & proceed they are demonstrating willful intent to cause damages to the valley, they will loose.
    At this point it’s critical that we citizens unite & assure those in our political swamp & the lobbyists they represent that we will ruin them & their business ventures if they trash our properties.
    This is our only option to prevent the F-35s or recover our losses.

    There are many large national law firms who handle these type of cases who will be clamoring to take a case of this monumental size on a contingency basis..
    We’ve already used this strategy to prevent several nasty industrial developments in our community. It’s time that we assure our opponents & their lawyers that we will be formable opponents if they trash our homes & quality of life in the valley..
    Chuck Thomas
    Board member, South Cole Neighborhood Association.

  2. I 100% agree with Mr Thomas. Our elected officials have refused to meet with the concerned residents and those most effected by this fighter. It is apparent that those same elected officials have decided to move ahead regardless of public sentiment. In my experience, in cases like this, the only way to “wake them up” is with legal action.

    The case of economic need gets thrown out the window when we look at the proposed gold mine in the Boise National Forest.Such a mine would provide great paying jobs for years to come. However, the environmental issues dictated a strong and vocal opposition.There are other examples one could use as well.

    The same concept applies to f-35, except the damages and issues to our community are here in our back yard.

    To the “sound of freedom” folks, my response is this. The sound of freedom is hearing that “Dave Kangas” has voted at the ballot booth. The sound of freedom is my right to voice my opinion and call elected leaders to task. The sound of freedom is my objection to spending $120M per unit for a fighter that is too expensive, not needed and not the best that we can produce. It was designed to make money. I also call to task the State of Idaho whose adverson to “growing government” leaves 78,000 Idahoans without healthcare, but are at the same time tripping over themselves to bring this fighter to Idaho. I fully support our men and women in uniform and the need for a strong defense. However, that does not mean an open check book.

    Organize, call the residents to action, enlist the aid and advice of attorneys.

  3. This is a night mission aircraft
    Mar 28, 2017, 1:34 pm

    Don’t be fooled people. This aircraft is a night prowler. The Air Force and surrogates have been spreading the lie that it will have a daylight only mission at Gowen.

  4. Just move the airport out to where the prison is located. If Denver can get the Feds to buy them an airport miles away from their city, why can’t Boise?

    Boise could stand to move their airport away from the many subdivisions now located near this ‘flight path’ as well as expand the current services. This move would also allow for clean up of the current airport for industrial use later on, giving Boise the advantage of more commercial real estate for a broader property tax base.

    Two birds, one stone.

  5. Com’on Benj, certainly you know from very credible on-line blogs and you tube videos that the new denver airport was primarily developed to cover up a secret alien military base and a secret underground tunnel to safe paradise for the government elite and friends in a nuclear war.

  6. Dave Bieter sucks
    Mar 29, 2017, 4:03 pm

    My favorite moment in the last meeting was when the ever bombastic Elliot Werk went nuts, and looked like he was going to attack Henry over the noise stunt. Thought I was finally going to get an excuse to tackle Elliot…

    Beware the return of Elaine Clegg, who hijacked the last meeting and made it her own. She’s turned from community activist to a dark knight for the evil Lords.

  7. Great opportunity
    Mar 30, 2017, 8:57 am

    This is a great opportunity to organize permanent opposition to the f-35. I hope it is not just talking. I hope there can be action teams formed.

    It could also be an opportunity to sign a petition to keep Boise’s 100k in the city budget for real needs, not pr for this faux pas.

  8. While action such as this is a “Great Opportunity”….please keep in mind the signing petitions really doesn’t do anything except for giving people the false sense of hope that their signature means something.

    If you really want action, go to the Council meetings….be seen. It’s not difficult for elected officials to turn a blind eye to pages of signatures, but much more difficult to ignore a room full of people in public hearings.

  9. Send a message to the U.S Air Force and ask them to position the Idaho Air National Guard at Mountain Home Air Force Base. It is cost effective to locate fighter jets on a base that has established security, safety and sound barriers.

    Gen. David L. Goldfein is Chief of Staff of the U.S. Air Force, Washington, D.C. As Chief, he serves as the senior uniformed Air Force officer responsible for the organization, training and equipping of 660,000 active-duty, Guard, Reserve and civilian forces serving in the U.S. and overseas. As a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the general and other service chiefs function as military advisers to the Secretary of Defense, National Security Council and the President.

    EDITOR NOTE–Good advice. Can someone provide a valid e-mail address please.

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