Comments on: War Of Words Over F-35 Revealed In Documents

By: Raymond M Gonda

Raymond M Gonda — Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:22:02 +0000

The National Security Act of 1947 and Pentagon policy assures that each state will continue to have both an Air Guard and Army Guard.

By: Raymond M Gonda

Raymond M Gonda — Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:11:37 +0000

Let’s be clear about one thing: Never has a guard unit shut down or moved to another state. The National Security Act of 1947, which formally created a guard unit in each state (air and army)as well as Pentagon policy prevent that. Only active Air Force units have shut down, such as Plattsburgh Air Force Base in upper New York in the 1980s. You can take that to the bank. Don’t let any of the F-35 proponents bamboozle you about losing the Air Guard. It will always exist and stay in-state.

By: going crazy

going crazy — Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:16:22 +0000

I am sorry to say the Mayor has his mind made up and no one can change it. it is like a new development and we voice our objections and opinions and even show it is causing a burden to that area and he stills approves.

By: Inna

Inna — Thu, 20 Apr 2017 19:49:44 +0000

I concur with “Love It” .
Of the only 2 comments Mayor Bieter made during many hearings for Syringa Valley development near airport, one was if there is going to be enough land promised for commercial development. There is a shortage of commercial zoned land in Boise.
Also, saying you have zero sympathy for other people in Boise, such as residents around Airport, detracts from Angry Floyd’s point. Because people are less willing to hear out someone who does not care about others.

By: Love It

Love It — Thu, 20 Apr 2017 16:47:40 +0000

Dearest Angry F, Your disagreement is based on an incorrect presumption and/or the mayor’s anti-citizen propaganda. Homes many miles from the airport are slated to be disturbed, not just those inside the noise loops. Also don’t forget the doctor’s point about air pollution. We are consistently one of America’s dirtiest cities without even factoring in the annual forest fire fostering industry. Many cities do just fine without military money wasting, so the case for how we will shrivel and die without Gowen is bull. Money spent in Mountain home is money spent in Boise anyway.

Mayor wants all this noise as a tool for stirring the real-estate pot. Team Dave is using noise to make way for commercial developments. There’s billions to be made by destroying the residential Bench and redeveloping commercial. It is why mayor is not hard selling a quiet military aircraft. They want to cause this problem for as many as possible. The Mayor, his team, and their spouses make huge bank by forcing transactions. It’s the age old government function of causing problems so they can swoop in and fix them with truckloads of federal money.

Lastly I’m going to rezone and build something you don’t like all around your home. It will knock 50% off your value. I have zero sympathy for you. You were foolish not to see this rezoning in your crystal ball.

By: Angry Floyd

Angry Floyd — Thu, 20 Apr 2017 04:39:45 +0000

I disagree with your statement that the mayor has waged a “public relations offensive against the citizens.” From my perspective, as someone who would like the F-35’s in our fair city, I see him as advocating for the best interest of his citizens.

Look, I’ve lived in Boise since the 60’s. I’ve seen people buy the cheaper real estate near the airport and build houses there. News flash: Your land was cheaper BECAUSE IT WAS NEXT TO AN AIRPORT! I have zero sympathy for those who built or bought homes near an airport and are now complaining about airport noise.

By: Yossarian_22

Yossarian_22 — Wed, 19 Apr 2017 19:54:22 +0000

I DLd the database and I found many interesting elements. One was a article about the FAA providing few options for Bunrlington Vermont residents, surrounding their airport. They are stuck with buying up many homes and providing sound mitigation for many, many more.

File after file in this email dump reinforces that this F-35 deal is totally done, in the eyes of the City. They want the F-35s here and badly, while pretending that the USAF makes the decisions. They pretend it’s about a “mission” but they want the F-35 mission specifically. They track all opposition and media postings. It’s almost Stasi like. I found one of my own submissions to City Hall highlighted. Here is the real bottom line as far as Burlington found that spells doom for Boise-

“I understand people want the F-35 on maps for mitigation,” Doucette said. “But we can’t do that until they are here, and even then it will take years to put a program in place.”
Another source of contention was the loss of tax revenue for South Burlington when homes are bought and demolished. Doucette said he hopes to see the city rezone those areas for commercial land use.

See here- https-//vtdigger.org/2017/02/17/faa-offers-solutions-f-35-noise-mitigation-south-burlington/

By: Easterner

Easterner — Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:43:15 +0000

I think it is reasonable to say Boise has “no say over what aircraft can or cannot fly in and out of Gowen Field”. That is the military’s decision based on the city’s influence.

However, Boise does have a choice whether to be inviting to the Guard at all, and whether to invite/allow the the Guard to be a tenant at Gowan. Of course, the IDAHO Air Guard needs to be SOMEWHERE.

I’m pretty sure the Mayor, and the Governor don’t care if the Guard chooses F-35s or cargo planes flying “rubber dog sht out of Hong Kong”. They just want the economic benefit of people and the money that goes with it. Money talks…

I welcome the Guard in Boise- with whatever toys they want to use; please build an exclusive airstrip East of Boise and fly to your heart’s content, over there.

EDITOR NOTE–Your airstrip already exists at Mt. Home AFB! Anything in between would have conflicting airspace. SE if the tank shooting range and we don’t want to shoot down F-35s at their price tag.

By: Inna

Inna — Tue, 18 Apr 2017 17:46:31 +0000

GREED IS GOOD.
I would like to explain why ANG base selection for F-35 is not a fair and transparent process by USAF, but has to be influenced by politicians such as Idaho Congressional Delegation.
If Greed is Good, then Profit is Necessity.
Like in horse racing, fixing the winner, and placing the right bet, Maximizes the Profit. Members of Congress are wealthy because of that.
In our capitalist society, when thousands of home owners are asked to accept partial or complete loss of home value for the “greater good” such as deployment of F-35 in their city, I know public opinion is being manipulated.
Dont’ get mad, get greedy.
Demand monetary compensation for the noise and loss of home values.

By: Heinrich Wiebe

Heinrich Wiebe — Tue, 18 Apr 2017 15:52:24 +0000

From: Mayor Bieter
Date: March 30, 2017 at 10:33:31 AM MDT
To: joanie fauci
Subject: RE: F35 sample

Dear Joanie,

Thank you for taking the time to contact me with your suggestion. The City of Boise has no say over what aircraft can or cannot fly in and out of Gowen Field, and this includes the possibility of having an F-35 visit Gowen so residents can hear the noise it makes. If you would like to make this request to the Idaho National Guard, please contact Major Christopher Borders by calling (208)422-5268 or by email at CHRISTOPHER.L.BORDERS2.MIL@MAIL.MIL.

It is important to keep in mind that the decision about any long-term flying mission for Gowen Field will be made by the U.S. Air Force and their decision making process will include a significant amount of public input opportunities. We are many months, if not years, away from any final decisions being made, which will include the official impacts that such a mission would have on surrounding neighborhoods.

I hope this information is helpful. Thank you again for taking the time to contact me.

Sincerely,

David H. Bieter
Mayor

EDITOR NOTE–As we observed in the main post, these impersonal form letters all say the city has no voice, yet they devote money, resources, and staff time in their attempt to lure the F-35 to Boise.