Comments on: Guard and BOI Snub Vista Neighborhood

By: Yossarian_22

Yossarian_22 — Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:00:54 +0000

D Swickard, I have lived in Boise when we had the F-102, the RF4C and the F4G WW, before the A-10s showed up. The RF4C driver that posted below you is correct. The F-35’s F135 engine will be much louder than all of the previous fighters. And the city had not built out like it had when the A-10 mission began. People who have witnessed the F-35 vs other current fighters say it’s much louder. Boise will be forced to rezone residential property that will become uninhabitable as home values drop and mitigation becomes expensive.

By: katie fite

katie fite — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 03:50:32 +0000

Even if I was not very concerned about the public lands impact of the F-35s (which I am), I think that the F-35 issue is MUCH bigger in Boise than folks who may be worn down by the endless rebuffs from the City may think. It just screams arrogance, corruption, and broken government processes. I think more and more people in Boise are deeply concerned about the Good Old Boys and Girls network that runs this town and pretends to be “Green” and concerned about “Livability”.

By: Pilot

Pilot — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 03:35:04 +0000

Having flown the RF4c and looking at the USAF data on the engine system of the F-35 the F35 creates significantly more noise.

By: David Swickard

David Swickard — Wed, 26 Apr 2017 22:03:13 +0000

I find it interesting that everyone is upset with the “noise” created by the F-35 aircraft. Apparently none of these individuals were living in the neighborhood when the ID ANG flew the F-4 Phantom. That aircraft was much louder than the F-35. After the F-4, the ID ANG transitioned into the A-10 aircraft which is much quieter. I guess folks don’t understand that living in the vicinity of an airport means you will have aircraft noise. Equipment changes, both for the military and the commercial market. If the F-35 were not to come to Boise, what would happen when (or if) a commercial aircraft was brought in that had a higher noise level? The same complaints would occur. Folks who are concerned about noise from the airport have basically two alternatives, one is to move away to a quieter area, or two move the airport. Unfortunately if you moved the airport, folks would build near it as well and then you have the same situation. One thing to remember, the jet noise from whatever aircraft the ID ANG flies, is basically the sound of freedom. We each must pay something for the freedoms we enjoy. Even the freedom to complain about the noise.

EDITOR NOTE–David, not sure your facts are correct. We welcome anyone with sources (either FAA or USAF) to provide actual numbers.

By: Dave Kangas

Dave Kangas — Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:07:43 +0000

I had a call last week from a Realtor who had attended a Boise Metro Chamber event. Boise Metro was actively pushing the importance of the F-35 while discrediting those that are against it. You should also read the letter from the City of Boise to all Neighborhood Associations further discrediting the opposing views.

EDITOR NOTE–We quoted part of her letter in a previous post: “Unfortunately, some individuals who oppose F-35s coming to Gowen Field have disseminated a number of inaccuracies about Gowen Field and the potential new mission. Though the City of Boise, the Boise Airport, the Idaho Air National Guard, the State of Idaho and others have consistently provided the correct information they continue to extend erroneous material.”

The GUARDIAN wrote Lacey asking for specific errors and identity of those she claimed were spreading the misinformation. She has not responded. We are told she had a pretty good reputation until she acted as a conduit for Team Dave’s top level staffers. We have copies of the documents where it was decided to use her.

By: Find a Realtor

Find a Realtor — Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:00:13 +0000

Everyone should find a Realtor friend and go attend the Boise Realtor event.

The neighborhood should have at least 25-30 people there WITH their Realtors. The Realtors will be able to confirm the negative impact on the house values due to noise.

EDITOR NOTE–It gets worse. Micron is having a “VIP” luncheon 11am-1 pm May 4 at Beside Bardenay. No doubt there will be some military brass and politicos in attendance, but no commoners from the Vista neighborhood. Follow the money!

By: bikeboy

bikeboy — Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:45:43 +0000

Robert: “Noisy F-35 Noisy Motorcycles Lets bundle them together on this.”

Hopefully that’s just silliness. Motorcycle noise – even the loudest – doesn’t carry for more than a couple blocks or so. You can hear a military jet all over the valley.

Or alternatively, I guess the bundling might be effective. Also include:
– Kids in junky cars with 10,000-watt sound systems
– backyard barking dogs
– diesel pickup trucks
– loud arguing at trailer parks and Walmarts
– etc.

By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:09:19 +0000

Noisy F-35 Noisy Motorcycles Lets bundle them together on this.

By: Bieter Begone

Bieter Begone — Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:58:19 +0000

Inna. Boise basically snubs ALL neighborhoods if they aren’t in the downtown, some parts of the NE and of course, east state St.

Unless they want to give the Fire Department Taj Mahals, then they will spend money. However, that doesn’t mean they care about the neighborhoods, only the Fire Union.

By: Done Deal

Done Deal — Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:54:43 +0000

The neighborhood associations are controlled by Team Dave loyalists. In short, you have no right to speak as an individual or group because the neighborhood association is speaking for you already — and the neighborhood association is the only recognized voice for you.