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		By: Dr. Coberly can gather facts		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/04/26/what-about-the-f-35-noise-and-schools/#comment-102963</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Coberly can gather facts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TONIGHT AT THE PRESENTATION AT THE VISTA ASSOCIATION&#039;S PUBLIC MEETING AT WHITNEY SCHOOL ON OWYHEE STREET.  :)  HOPE HE WANTS THESE REAL FACTS.  ENCOURAGED TO ATTEND.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TONIGHT AT THE PRESENTATION AT THE VISTA ASSOCIATION&#8217;S PUBLIC MEETING AT WHITNEY SCHOOL ON OWYHEE STREET.  🙂  HOPE HE WANTS THESE REAL FACTS.  ENCOURAGED TO ATTEND.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/04/26/what-about-the-f-35-noise-and-schools/#comment-102961</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Clancy, Thanks for the links. 
Yep F-35 is louder.  
for a few seconds a day, a several times a day,,, whenever.  I can handle that. 

What I can&#039;t handle is the INCREASED ambulance (and police) sirens coming down my street.  

I had no idea the hospital would actually expand and increase &#039;their business&#039; when I bought a house near the hospital. 

See ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clancy, Thanks for the links.<br />
Yep F-35 is louder.<br />
for a few seconds a day, a several times a day,,, whenever.  I can handle that. </p>
<p>What I can&#8217;t handle is the INCREASED ambulance (and police) sirens coming down my street.  </p>
<p>I had no idea the hospital would actually expand and increase &#8216;their business&#8217; when I bought a house near the hospital. </p>
<p>See ?</p>
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		By: Dave Kangas		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/04/26/what-about-the-f-35-noise-and-schools/#comment-102959</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Kangas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have not seen a direct noise comparison from the A-10 to the F-35. All of the comparisons are from f-16,f-15 to the f-35. Here is a great noise study from Elgin airforce base..
 
www.valp.org/govt/media/webb-pp-pres.ppt   you will need to donwload and open....
 
The issue of noise is going to be very real and completely disregarded by proponents. In some research that helped explain why it is so loud, is comparing the thrust. The f-35 at imtermediate throttle has the same rating as the f-16 at full afterburner. What this means is that the f-35 is probably as loud taxiing around the runway, as the f-16 is at take off. This is what I experienced in Las Vegas. Each time there are &quot;transient&quot; f-16 and f-15 at the airport, people notice and comment. You won&#039;t be able to ignore the f-35.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not seen a direct noise comparison from the A-10 to the F-35. All of the comparisons are from f-16,f-15 to the f-35. Here is a great noise study from Elgin airforce base..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.valp.org/govt/media/webb-pp-pres.ppt" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.valp.org/govt/media/webb-pp-pres.ppt</a>   you will need to donwload and open&#8230;.</p>
<p>The issue of noise is going to be very real and completely disregarded by proponents. In some research that helped explain why it is so loud, is comparing the thrust. The f-35 at imtermediate throttle has the same rating as the f-16 at full afterburner. What this means is that the f-35 is probably as loud taxiing around the runway, as the f-16 is at take off. This is what I experienced in Las Vegas. Each time there are &#8220;transient&#8221; f-16 and f-15 at the airport, people notice and comment. You won&#8217;t be able to ignore the f-35.</p>
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		By: The wolf		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/04/26/what-about-the-f-35-noise-and-schools/#comment-102957</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The wolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting that you got someone from the school district to go on the record at all. They are masters of leaving no fingerprints.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that you got someone from the school district to go on the record at all. They are masters of leaving no fingerprints.</p>
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		By: Clancy Anderson		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/04/26/what-about-the-f-35-noise-and-schools/#comment-102956</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clancy Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2017 15:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are some noise comparison&#039;s on youtube.

This one is pretty good, read the description for how it was measured. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnm1d3iG1x4

Others seem more subjective.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bbFRh3afLA

Has anyone done a property value study?   In AZ, it was estimated to avg 17% decline.   This could be a huge hit to local taxing districts.
https://www.youtube.com/user/TucsonWeeklyTV/videos?sort=p&#038;view=0&#038;flow=grid]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some noise comparison&#8217;s on youtube.</p>
<p>This one is pretty good, read the description for how it was measured.<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnm1d3iG1x4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnm1d3iG1x4</a></p>
<p>Others seem more subjective.  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bbFRh3afLA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bbFRh3afLA</a></p>
<p>Has anyone done a property value study?   In AZ, it was estimated to avg 17% decline.   This could be a huge hit to local taxing districts.<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/TucsonWeeklyTV/videos?sort=p&#038;view=0&#038;flow=grid" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/user/TucsonWeeklyTV/videos?sort=p&#038;view=0&#038;flow=grid</a></p>
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		By: boisecynic		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/04/26/what-about-the-f-35-noise-and-schools/#comment-102953</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boisecynic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Spoken like  a true politician. Don&#039;t take a stand, don&#039;t step on any toes, hopefully the issue will go away and everyone will forget by next election.

Dave, try again and demand each of the elected trustees take a stand. Yea or nay.

Heck they even have a website where they could put it writing. But alas, there&#039;s only short bios that amount to style over substance.

Link:

http://www.boiseschools.org/our_district/board_of_trustees/trustees_and_superintendency/

While we&#039;re at it. BSD recently change their website and it&#039;s, well, style over substance. It&#039;s horrible. Who approves this stuff. I call the new look the Pinterest look with giant pictures and difficult navigation.

Dave, can you FOIA to determine how much they spent on redesigning the website? 

Meanwhile, the school&#039;s fence along Whitewater Parkway adjacent Whittier Elem. is all full of weeds and leaves. Still no sidewalk on Jefferson for 200&#039; adjacent Whittier.

EDITOR NOTE--We did suggest a broader response to include Board members.  This is what we got.  We welcome anything you are able to get through your contact and request of BSD.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spoken like  a true politician. Don&#8217;t take a stand, don&#8217;t step on any toes, hopefully the issue will go away and everyone will forget by next election.</p>
<p>Dave, try again and demand each of the elected trustees take a stand. Yea or nay.</p>
<p>Heck they even have a website where they could put it writing. But alas, there&#8217;s only short bios that amount to style over substance.</p>
<p>Link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boiseschools.org/our_district/board_of_trustees/trustees_and_superintendency/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.boiseschools.org/our_district/board_of_trustees/trustees_and_superintendency/</a></p>
<p>While we&#8217;re at it. BSD recently change their website and it&#8217;s, well, style over substance. It&#8217;s horrible. Who approves this stuff. I call the new look the Pinterest look with giant pictures and difficult navigation.</p>
<p>Dave, can you FOIA to determine how much they spent on redesigning the website? </p>
<p>Meanwhile, the school&#8217;s fence along Whitewater Parkway adjacent Whittier Elem. is all full of weeds and leaves. Still no sidewalk on Jefferson for 200&#8242; adjacent Whittier.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;We did suggest a broader response to include Board members.  This is what we got.  We welcome anything you are able to get through your contact and request of BSD.</p>
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		By: Heinrich Wiebe		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/04/26/what-about-the-f-35-noise-and-schools/#comment-102952</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heinrich Wiebe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Said another way, let&#039;s get the jets and work out the issues later. Folks,,,We know how loud they are. A-10&#039;s 24000 lbs of thrust. F-35&#039;s 40000 lbs of thrust.  Simple math.

EDITOR NOTE--There may even be a multiplayer in that simple math. Anyone with knowledge and FACTS please help out on the noise issue.  Everything we have seen claims the F-35 is much more than twice as noisy as the A-10.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Said another way, let&#8217;s get the jets and work out the issues later. Folks,,,We know how loud they are. A-10&#8217;s 24000 lbs of thrust. F-35&#8217;s 40000 lbs of thrust.  Simple math.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;There may even be a multiplayer in that simple math. Anyone with knowledge and FACTS please help out on the noise issue.  Everything we have seen claims the F-35 is much more than twice as noisy as the A-10.</p>
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		By: Your school tax money at work		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/04/26/what-about-the-f-35-noise-and-schools/#comment-102950</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Your school tax money at work]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2017 03:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is what you get when your tax money that goes to the Boise School district pays for a full time professional media PR hack employee (actually more than 2 or 3) to create PC responses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what you get when your tax money that goes to the Boise School district pays for a full time professional media PR hack employee (actually more than 2 or 3) to create PC responses.</p>
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