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		By: some self interest		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/07/26/good-noise-bad-noise-boise/#comment-103397</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[some self interest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2017 02:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[some knowledge of standing up for your self interest and what that is would help. too few people go too quietly and don&#039;t voice their self interest as in voting. 

social media is powerful, but still has not infiltrated the voting booth.  

our mayor, council, and population are not all that educated no do they act on it.  the choice between the current administration and something else is a drastic conservative flogging.  

how about some over the line conservative to run our town.  that is probably our alternative choice.  that is how the current admin survives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some knowledge of standing up for your self interest and what that is would help. too few people go too quietly and don&#8217;t voice their self interest as in voting. </p>
<p>social media is powerful, but still has not infiltrated the voting booth.  </p>
<p>our mayor, council, and population are not all that educated no do they act on it.  the choice between the current administration and something else is a drastic conservative flogging.  </p>
<p>how about some over the line conservative to run our town.  that is probably our alternative choice.  that is how the current admin survives.</p>
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		By: Philosophers and other powered egg consumers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philosophers and other powered egg consumers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 23:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Editor:  Do you recall back in December of 1999 there was a bunch of yoyos buying up propane, canned food, and bullets?  Some even had their pastor mark their forehead.

Well, they are still here.  Still driving their per-electronic ignition Chevy.  Still very frustrated with all that wasted money back in 1999.  They&#039;re now posting on your blog about the accuracy of their failed philosophy regarding the United States body politic.  

I encourage limitations upon said philosophers and other powered egg consumers.

EDITOR NOTE--Your comment and my concurrence about detracting from the quality of comments will hopefully decrease the posts. However, our own GUARDIAN SNOPES researcher offers this on a previous comment: On a lark, I pulled down voting records from the last mayoral election (2015). I compared precincts north of the river with those south of the river and to the west. The comment was correct.    38% voted in the north end. 25% on the bench and around the airport. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Editor:  Do you recall back in December of 1999 there was a bunch of yoyos buying up propane, canned food, and bullets?  Some even had their pastor mark their forehead.</p>
<p>Well, they are still here.  Still driving their per-electronic ignition Chevy.  Still very frustrated with all that wasted money back in 1999.  They&#8217;re now posting on your blog about the accuracy of their failed philosophy regarding the United States body politic.  </p>
<p>I encourage limitations upon said philosophers and other powered egg consumers.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Your comment and my concurrence about detracting from the quality of comments will hopefully decrease the posts. However, our own GUARDIAN SNOPES researcher offers this on a previous comment: On a lark, I pulled down voting records from the last mayoral election (2015). I compared precincts north of the river with those south of the river and to the west. The comment was correct.    38% voted in the north end. 25% on the bench and around the airport. </p>
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		By: Voting doesn't work		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/07/26/good-noise-bad-noise-boise/#comment-103393</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Voting doesn't work]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 18:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Statistics 101 says that a sample size of 500 would be sufficient to correctly determine the feelings of a population the size of Boise, so low voter turnout is not a problem. 
The problem lies in the brainwashing by the corporate media that determines the outcomes of elections. The Russians meddling? Nonsense. The corporate media is the meddler. They tell you who is &quot;electable&quot;, and who is just a &quot;perennial candidate&quot; to be dismissed.
People think voting matters because the corporate media tells them it matters, endlessly repeated, as is any propaganda campaign.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Statistics 101 says that a sample size of 500 would be sufficient to correctly determine the feelings of a population the size of Boise, so low voter turnout is not a problem.<br />
The problem lies in the brainwashing by the corporate media that determines the outcomes of elections. The Russians meddling? Nonsense. The corporate media is the meddler. They tell you who is &#8220;electable&#8221;, and who is just a &#8220;perennial candidate&#8221; to be dismissed.<br />
People think voting matters because the corporate media tells them it matters, endlessly repeated, as is any propaganda campaign.</p>
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		By: Voting will not work		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Voting will not work]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2017 16:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Since almost every Idaho politician voiced his or her support for F-35 mission inside Boise city limits,  voting will not change anything, in this case.
Any politician who speaks against F-35 mission will get replaced in the next election by the one who is for F-35, via the corporate or lobbyist money.
Therefore only term limits, and campaign finance law change will help, politically.
Holding every significant political figure who supported F-35 legally responsible via a class action lawsuit is the only way out of the &quot;F-35 in the city limits&quot; quagmire. 
The other thing, at least half of the population is against F-35 in Boise (and at large). Why have they been silent?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since almost every Idaho politician voiced his or her support for F-35 mission inside Boise city limits,  voting will not change anything, in this case.<br />
Any politician who speaks against F-35 mission will get replaced in the next election by the one who is for F-35, via the corporate or lobbyist money.<br />
Therefore only term limits, and campaign finance law change will help, politically.<br />
Holding every significant political figure who supported F-35 legally responsible via a class action lawsuit is the only way out of the &#8220;F-35 in the city limits&#8221; quagmire.<br />
The other thing, at least half of the population is against F-35 in Boise (and at large). Why have they been silent?</p>
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		By: Voting doesn't work		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Voting doesn't work]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2017 23:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Go spend 10 minutes every few years to choose between a Republican corporate whore or a Democrat corporate whore if it makes you feel useful. Good luck with that...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go spend 10 minutes every few years to choose between a Republican corporate whore or a Democrat corporate whore if it makes you feel useful. Good luck with that&#8230;</p>
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		By: Not voting is how we got here		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/07/26/good-noise-bad-noise-boise/#comment-103388</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not voting is how we got here]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2017 19:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Voting works really well, but voter turnout is terrible low, or very predictable within some demographic groups.

Voting really does work.  Proof.  Voting in a bloc exactly the way their elders tell them to is how the Somali and other *minority groups have taken over the politics of so many cities.  The stupid ignorant long term residents refuse to vote then complain they got a muslim congressional representative.  See Minneapolis right now for proof.  ((*minority in number by a large margin))

The people/businesses in downtown Boise vote and don&#039;t like noise.  The people under the new F-35 flight path don&#039;t vote... or always vote party line.  Simple as that.

EDITOR NOTE-- From our &quot;GUARDIAN SNOPES&quot; researcher: On a lark, I pulled down voting records from the last mayoral election (2015). I compared precincts north of the river with those south of the river and to the west. The comment was correct.    38% voted in the north end. 25% on the bench and around the airport. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voting works really well, but voter turnout is terrible low, or very predictable within some demographic groups.</p>
<p>Voting really does work.  Proof.  Voting in a bloc exactly the way their elders tell them to is how the Somali and other *minority groups have taken over the politics of so many cities.  The stupid ignorant long term residents refuse to vote then complain they got a muslim congressional representative.  See Minneapolis right now for proof.  ((*minority in number by a large margin))</p>
<p>The people/businesses in downtown Boise vote and don&#8217;t like noise.  The people under the new F-35 flight path don&#8217;t vote&#8230; or always vote party line.  Simple as that.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211; From our &#8220;GUARDIAN SNOPES&#8221; researcher: On a lark, I pulled down voting records from the last mayoral election (2015). I compared precincts north of the river with those south of the river and to the west. The comment was correct.    38% voted in the north end. 25% on the bench and around the airport. </p>
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		By: Voting doesn't work		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/07/26/good-noise-bad-noise-boise/#comment-103387</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Voting doesn't work]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2017 15:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If voting worked, they&#039;d make it illegal.
We keep voting, and things keep getting worse, go figure...
Apathy and stupidity are manufactured by a corporate media that is actively selling propaganda, and schools that teach obedience and assimilation.
Personal attacks against those you know nothing of reflect a very low level of intelligence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If voting worked, they&#8217;d make it illegal.<br />
We keep voting, and things keep getting worse, go figure&#8230;<br />
Apathy and stupidity are manufactured by a corporate media that is actively selling propaganda, and schools that teach obedience and assimilation.<br />
Personal attacks against those you know nothing of reflect a very low level of intelligence.</p>
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		By: David in Eagle		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/07/26/good-noise-bad-noise-boise/#comment-103385</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David in Eagle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2017 16:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To quote George Santayana &quot;Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.&quot;

Back in the 1970&#039;s I worked for the City of Boise, and the city purchased sound level meters for patrol officers to use.

They used them to write tickets for &quot;excessive noise&quot;. because the &quot;cruse&quot; in downtown Boise was keeping patrons of the hotels awake.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote George Santayana &#8220;Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Back in the 1970&#8217;s I worked for the City of Boise, and the city purchased sound level meters for patrol officers to use.</p>
<p>They used them to write tickets for &#8220;excessive noise&#8221;. because the &#8220;cruse&#8221; in downtown Boise was keeping patrons of the hotels awake.</p>
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		By: Or you could just vote each and every time		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Or you could just vote each and every time]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2017 04:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[New World Order.  How about you and your peer group and relatives set down that cheap beer, turn off NASCAR, and vote in every election.  

Apathy and stupidity are the root causes of our government out of control.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New World Order.  How about you and your peer group and relatives set down that cheap beer, turn off NASCAR, and vote in every election.  </p>
<p>Apathy and stupidity are the root causes of our government out of control.</p>
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		By: Larraine		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/07/26/good-noise-bad-noise-boise/#comment-103383</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larraine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2017 03:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This evening at 7:30 pm, two F-15s approached Boise/Gowen Field for a landing. What is the rationale of our Mayor&#039;s statement that the IANG/Gowen Field is a 10 min. disruption from Monday-Friday during the hours of 8-5? Don&#039;t shift workers, babies and toddlers routinely sleep at 7:30 pm?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This evening at 7:30 pm, two F-15s approached Boise/Gowen Field for a landing. What is the rationale of our Mayor&#8217;s statement that the IANG/Gowen Field is a 10 min. disruption from Monday-Friday during the hours of 8-5? Don&#8217;t shift workers, babies and toddlers routinely sleep at 7:30 pm?</p>
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