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	Comments on: Air Force Chickens Out On GUARDIAN Challenge	</title>
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		By: Betty Bermensolo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/09/18/air-force-chickens-out-on-guardian-challenge/#comment-103631</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Betty Bermensolo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2017 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It would seem that &quot; Transparency&quot; for our elected officials and the Air Guard is not the intention . No one needs to see a weapons system demonstrated but  If there is no plan to demonstrate the typical flight path/speed and make the public aware of the F35 arrival and departure , it is a huge disappointment and a terrible mistake . 
I know how badly Vietnam servicemen and women were treated just because they were serving their country. 
I would hate to see the F35 mission result in that scenario here in Boise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem that &#8221; Transparency&#8221; for our elected officials and the Air Guard is not the intention . No one needs to see a weapons system demonstrated but  If there is no plan to demonstrate the typical flight path/speed and make the public aware of the F35 arrival and departure , it is a huge disappointment and a terrible mistake .<br />
I know how badly Vietnam servicemen and women were treated just because they were serving their country.<br />
I would hate to see the F35 mission result in that scenario here in Boise.</p>
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		By: HH		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/09/18/air-force-chickens-out-on-guardian-challenge/#comment-103622</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2017 22:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you have any idea as to when they are scheduled to move in and will they be heard in the North End as well as the other &quot;elite&quot; (cough, cough) parts of Boise and the TV?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have any idea as to when they are scheduled to move in and will they be heard in the North End as well as the other &#8220;elite&#8221; (cough, cough) parts of Boise and the TV?</p>
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		By: rabula		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/09/18/air-force-chickens-out-on-guardian-challenge/#comment-103586</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rabula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2017 22:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How many clean-water systems could we build for $165 million...?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many clean-water systems could we build for $165 million&#8230;?</p>
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		By: Karoline		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/09/18/air-force-chickens-out-on-guardian-challenge/#comment-103575</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karoline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There was so much jet noise this weekend, it may have been a great cover up for an F-35 to slowly coast into the airport. 
Yesterday, I saw a jet, that looked a lot like the F-35 pictures, slowly coasting/creeping in the air by the airport. I&#039;ve never seen any military Jets in Boise go that slow. They usually push the throttle hard, and love their after burners. :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was so much jet noise this weekend, it may have been a great cover up for an F-35 to slowly coast into the airport.<br />
Yesterday, I saw a jet, that looked a lot like the F-35 pictures, slowly coasting/creeping in the air by the airport. I&#8217;ve never seen any military Jets in Boise go that slow. They usually push the throttle hard, and love their after burners. 🙁</p>
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		By: Its got Fahrvergnügen?		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/09/18/air-force-chickens-out-on-guardian-challenge/#comment-103569</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Its got Fahrvergnügen?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2017 07:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If an aircraft had one of these for offensive and defensive weapons?  No need for ultra maneuverability?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4903924/US-Army-reveals-video-laser-weapon-shooting-drones.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If an aircraft had one of these for offensive and defensive weapons?  No need for ultra maneuverability?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4903924/US-Army-reveals-video-laser-weapon-shooting-drones.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4903924/US-Army-reveals-video-laser-weapon-shooting-drones.html</a></p>
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		By: The Empire Strikes Out		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/09/18/air-force-chickens-out-on-guardian-challenge/#comment-103561</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Empire Strikes Out]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Solid gold turds on display for your viewing pleasure. Come one, come all to the greatest display of government waste in the history of the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solid gold turds on display for your viewing pleasure. Come one, come all to the greatest display of government waste in the history of the world.</p>
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		By: Shortage of functional F-35's		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/09/18/air-force-chickens-out-on-guardian-challenge/#comment-103560</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shortage of functional F-35's]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the reason for displaying 2 stationary F-35&#039;s at Gowen Air Show is because there is a shortage of them. US and LMT delayed delivery of just 2!!! F-35&#039;s to Israel.
Flew 4 of them to N. Korea. 
And US is considering purchase of non-combat ready F-35&#039;s that need 150 fixes in only the software (others described someplace else).
So here we go, there is a shortage of operational F-35&#039;s. And last thing they need for the F-35&#039;s to crash into the crowd at an air show, when the Senate just voted to buy more of them then even Trump admin requested.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the reason for displaying 2 stationary F-35&#8217;s at Gowen Air Show is because there is a shortage of them. US and LMT delayed delivery of just 2!!! F-35&#8217;s to Israel.<br />
Flew 4 of them to N. Korea.<br />
And US is considering purchase of non-combat ready F-35&#8217;s that need 150 fixes in only the software (others described someplace else).<br />
So here we go, there is a shortage of operational F-35&#8217;s. And last thing they need for the F-35&#8217;s to crash into the crowd at an air show, when the Senate just voted to buy more of them then even Trump admin requested.</p>
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		By: Pilot		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/09/18/air-force-chickens-out-on-guardian-challenge/#comment-103559</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pilot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Look for a very late night (3 am) arrival of the F 35&#039;s. They will basically glide in and land. 

To take off look for a &quot;minimal thrust&quot; takeoff - this means as little fuel and as little weight as will get them to Mt Home to get a full fuel load to reduce weight and they reduce need for take off speed.

All this depends on if there is not some reason the F35&#039;s are not grounded as they have 4 times in the last year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look for a very late night (3 am) arrival of the F 35&#8217;s. They will basically glide in and land. </p>
<p>To take off look for a &#8220;minimal thrust&#8221; takeoff &#8211; this means as little fuel and as little weight as will get them to Mt Home to get a full fuel load to reduce weight and they reduce need for take off speed.</p>
<p>All this depends on if there is not some reason the F35&#8217;s are not grounded as they have 4 times in the last year.</p>
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		By: PPSEL		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/09/18/air-force-chickens-out-on-guardian-challenge/#comment-103558</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PPSEL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With all the publicity regarding how noisy the F35 supposedly is I tend to believe there is potential for a high degree of perceived noise.  If folks were tuned in to the aircraft&#039;s arrival/departure and went out to listen I believe there would be some built in bias.  Personally, I would like to hear the F35 takeoff followed by one of the frequent transient Navy/Marine F18&#039;s (not to be confused with the USAF F15&#039;s).  The F18&#039;s are by far the loudest aircraft that routinely uses Gown Field. This is from someone who frequents the airport side of 28R/L runway departure ends.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all the publicity regarding how noisy the F35 supposedly is I tend to believe there is potential for a high degree of perceived noise.  If folks were tuned in to the aircraft&#8217;s arrival/departure and went out to listen I believe there would be some built in bias.  Personally, I would like to hear the F35 takeoff followed by one of the frequent transient Navy/Marine F18&#8217;s (not to be confused with the USAF F15&#8217;s).  The F18&#8217;s are by far the loudest aircraft that routinely uses Gown Field. This is from someone who frequents the airport side of 28R/L runway departure ends.</p>
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		By: Concerned		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/09/18/air-force-chickens-out-on-guardian-challenge/#comment-103557</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Concerned]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 12:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[bikeboy - estimated cost to fly each F35 is now $165 Million... and climbing.  Google a story printed on July 11.

The entire Gowen Thunder is PR for Gowen and the AF.

I&#039;ve heard the F35 down south and its a noisy bird.  I doubt they&#039;ll fly it like they&#039;ll train here and will likely use sharp takeoff and landings to minimize what people hear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bikeboy &#8211; estimated cost to fly each F35 is now $165 Million&#8230; and climbing.  Google a story printed on July 11.</p>
<p>The entire Gowen Thunder is PR for Gowen and the AF.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard the F35 down south and its a noisy bird.  I doubt they&#8217;ll fly it like they&#8217;ll train here and will likely use sharp takeoff and landings to minimize what people hear.</p>
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