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		By: erico49		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/10/30/top-copper-creates-community-commission/#comment-103834</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2017 15:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If a comment on a previous post is correct, there are 10 officers (out of God knows how many) whose job it is to write traffic tickets. Optional for the others. That means that there will be more people on the advisory board than cops writing traffic tickets.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a comment on a previous post is correct, there are 10 officers (out of God knows how many) whose job it is to write traffic tickets. Optional for the others. That means that there will be more people on the advisory board than cops writing traffic tickets.</p>
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		By: The American Dream		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/10/30/top-copper-creates-community-commission/#comment-103833</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The American Dream]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2017 20:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here’s a short, but interesting quote from a news article...

“...Police forces, as Vitale writes in his book, were not formed to ensure public safety or prevent crime. They were created by the property classes to maintain economic and political dominance and exert control over slaves, the poor, dissidents and labor unions that challenged the wealthy’s hold on power and ability to amass personal fortunes...”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-30/chris-hedges-our-ever-deadlier-police-state]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s a short, but interesting quote from a news article&#8230;</p>
<p>“&#8230;Police forces, as Vitale writes in his book, were not formed to ensure public safety or prevent crime. They were created by the property classes to maintain economic and political dominance and exert control over slaves, the poor, dissidents and labor unions that challenged the wealthy’s hold on power and ability to amass personal fortunes&#8230;”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-30/chris-hedges-our-ever-deadlier-police-state" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-30/chris-hedges-our-ever-deadlier-police-state</a></p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/10/30/top-copper-creates-community-commission/#comment-103831</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2017 17:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Advisory Panel?
Not the same as a &quot;Police Commission&quot;. 

With no authority or regulation, the city might as well simply use email comments for an &quot;advisory panel&quot;. 

And if the panel just kisses __ up to BPD and tells them it is all roses and sunshine, then there might as well not be a panel at all. 

Alternatively, imagine being on the panel--- being critical of the enforcement, and then having an encounter with BPD- good or bad, it could become very complicated.  When a LEO is a suspect of crime, another dept takes charge to eliminate bias, right? 
Does anyone think BPD will do that for a regular citizen on the panel or &#039;anyone&#039; critical of the department?  

In the current context, it&#039;s kinda like The Guardian being excluded from &quot;the press&quot; by City of Boise. 

When authority doesn&#039;t like what they hear, they turn down the volume or simply change the station. 

Much like Trump&#039;s Economic Advisory PANEL, I expect when things don&#039;t go well for the city, they will simply end it. Hello, Ombudsman? 

Remember this one:
&quot;Rather than putting pressure on the business people of the Manufacturing Council &#038; Strategy &#038; Policy Forum, I am ending both. Thank you all!&quot; 

I expect roses and sunshine. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advisory Panel?<br />
Not the same as a &#8220;Police Commission&#8221;. </p>
<p>With no authority or regulation, the city might as well simply use email comments for an &#8220;advisory panel&#8221;. </p>
<p>And if the panel just kisses __ up to BPD and tells them it is all roses and sunshine, then there might as well not be a panel at all. </p>
<p>Alternatively, imagine being on the panel&#8212; being critical of the enforcement, and then having an encounter with BPD- good or bad, it could become very complicated.  When a LEO is a suspect of crime, another dept takes charge to eliminate bias, right?<br />
Does anyone think BPD will do that for a regular citizen on the panel or &#8216;anyone&#8217; critical of the department?  </p>
<p>In the current context, it&#8217;s kinda like The Guardian being excluded from &#8220;the press&#8221; by City of Boise. </p>
<p>When authority doesn&#8217;t like what they hear, they turn down the volume or simply change the station. </p>
<p>Much like Trump&#8217;s Economic Advisory PANEL, I expect when things don&#8217;t go well for the city, they will simply end it. Hello, Ombudsman? </p>
<p>Remember this one:<br />
&#8220;Rather than putting pressure on the business people of the Manufacturing Council &amp; Strategy &amp; Policy Forum, I am ending both. Thank you all!&#8221; </p>
<p>I expect roses and sunshine. 🙂</p>
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		By: erico49		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/10/30/top-copper-creates-community-commission/#comment-103830</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[erico49]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2017 12:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t hold your breath for a good next step, Dave. Bones said on one of the local TV news reports (&quot;news reports&quot; used loosely) that they have been working on this modest step for 3 years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t hold your breath for a good next step, Dave. Bones said on one of the local TV news reports (&#8220;news reports&#8221; used loosely) that they have been working on this modest step for 3 years.</p>
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		By: I've heard it's near 30%		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I've heard it's near 30%]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2017 02:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The city leaders remind me of those people selling blenders and vitamins on the Sunday morning radio and TV.

Question:  What is the percentage of Boise residents who are under the thumb of the local criminal legal fine &#038; punishment racket?  Currently participating as well as those marked but now clear of extraction system for a few years.

Question:  How many people think a city police force should consume 30% of the TOTAL city budget?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The city leaders remind me of those people selling blenders and vitamins on the Sunday morning radio and TV.</p>
<p>Question:  What is the percentage of Boise residents who are under the thumb of the local criminal legal fine &amp; punishment racket?  Currently participating as well as those marked but now clear of extraction system for a few years.</p>
<p>Question:  How many people think a city police force should consume 30% of the TOTAL city budget?</p>
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		By: Concerned		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Concerned]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2017 21:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boise has gone from the best city to drive in to the worst in 2 years because BPD no longer enforces traffic safety laws.  That started when Chief Masterson left from what it sounded like disagreements with Bieter.

Bieter has kept extremely tight control over all &quot;participation&quot; and communication channels with anything to do with the city.  The amount of misinformation spewed by the city has increased at an astronomical rate.

I have no faith that this won&#039;t be anything other than a showboat to push agendas currently embedded in city politics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boise has gone from the best city to drive in to the worst in 2 years because BPD no longer enforces traffic safety laws.  That started when Chief Masterson left from what it sounded like disagreements with Bieter.</p>
<p>Bieter has kept extremely tight control over all &#8220;participation&#8221; and communication channels with anything to do with the city.  The amount of misinformation spewed by the city has increased at an astronomical rate.</p>
<p>I have no faith that this won&#8217;t be anything other than a showboat to push agendas currently embedded in city politics.</p>
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		By: The American Dream		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/10/30/top-copper-creates-community-commission/#comment-103826</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The American Dream]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2017 21:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Any Serfs found complaining to the community “sounding board” will experience Extraordinary Rendition to a Black Site for Sheeple re-education.
Yours truly,
The Oligarch Overlords]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any Serfs found complaining to the community “sounding board” will experience Extraordinary Rendition to a Black Site for Sheeple re-education.<br />
Yours truly,<br />
The Oligarch Overlords</p>
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		By: David		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2017/10/30/top-copper-creates-community-commission/#comment-103825</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope this works favorably and that there is good representation and not from moneyed elites like developers. 

Hopefully Dave Frazier applies and gets accepted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope this works favorably and that there is good representation and not from moneyed elites like developers. </p>
<p>Hopefully Dave Frazier applies and gets accepted.</p>
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