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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2018 04:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FFL, 
For real,,, here&#039;s a great read for you:
 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/owner-killed-three-shot-attempted-robbery-gun-shop-n283326

And then this anecdote for the home security fans:
https://www.myleaderpaper.com/news/police_fire/gun-shop-owner-shot-to-death-at-hillsboro-area-home/article_0cbc6438-8450-11e7-8d61-4ffe823196a3.html

As for your credibility FFL, (since you have an FFL) &quot;most all&quot; of the shooters in recent years are actually UNDER age 20.  Depending on how you want to use the data for &#039;school shootings&#039; and how many years you want to use, you are still &quot;almost all&quot; incorrect. 

Of the 12 shooters in year 2018 that I count, ALL of the shooters are/were UNDER 20 or unidentified. So, there.  Facts are a bitch compared to barstool chatter, right?  
Okay, sure, gun violence happens everywhere. So the 2 major school incidences this year, Parkland &#038; Marshall County, Kentucky, the shooters were 19 and 15. 
See? Not 20 -30.  

15 year olds! 
Parkland Florida- a 19 year-old.
Columbine- 18 and 17. 

I suppose some reader will now propose those &#039;shooters&#039; this year are just part of a leftist conspiracy to take away guns. They were paid by Hollywood, right? 
  
1999
Notus, IDAHO	
15-year-old Shawn Cooper, 
A 15-year-old!!! 
He fired two shots from a shotgun near the FRONT DESK at Notus Jr. Sr. High School.  
There were no serious injuries, but some students were close enough to the blast to be grazed by shrapnel from the tile floor. 
Cooper had been undergoing treatment for bipolar disorder.  

Dear FFL, 
How does a 15 year-old with a mental illness have access to unsupervised firearms? 
Must be divorced and bad parents, right? 
Fine. But if it&#039;s YOUR kid attending that Notus school, you might consider a different solution for the next Shawn Cooper. 

Notus. The town right to Guardian&#039;s bird tour today!

Notus just isn&#039;t what it used to be! 

FFL, 
I have a sign for your shop&#039;s front door: &quot;I don&#039;t know sh!t, but I&#039;ll sell you some guns&quot;

Mental illness has little to do with the way &quot;we are raising our children&quot;.

So,,,,, you might actually try to know decent information about the topic before you krap misinformation on the World Wide Web or in your store. 
Cuz if you said &#039;that bit&#039; while I was in your store shopping for my next $1,000 item, I would walk the f out!  Disclose the name of your store and I won&#039;t waste my time- because that&#039;s the way I was raised.  :-)

EDITOR NOTE--Looks like we will have to close comments before someone gets shot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FFL,<br />
For real,,, here&#8217;s a great read for you:<br />
 <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/owner-killed-three-shot-attempted-robbery-gun-shop-n283326" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/owner-killed-three-shot-attempted-robbery-gun-shop-n283326</a></p>
<p>And then this anecdote for the home security fans:<br />
<a href="https://www.myleaderpaper.com/news/police_fire/gun-shop-owner-shot-to-death-at-hillsboro-area-home/article_0cbc6438-8450-11e7-8d61-4ffe823196a3.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.myleaderpaper.com/news/police_fire/gun-shop-owner-shot-to-death-at-hillsboro-area-home/article_0cbc6438-8450-11e7-8d61-4ffe823196a3.html</a></p>
<p>As for your credibility FFL, (since you have an FFL) &#8220;most all&#8221; of the shooters in recent years are actually UNDER age 20.  Depending on how you want to use the data for &#8216;school shootings&#8217; and how many years you want to use, you are still &#8220;almost all&#8221; incorrect. </p>
<p>Of the 12 shooters in year 2018 that I count, ALL of the shooters are/were UNDER 20 or unidentified. So, there.  Facts are a bitch compared to barstool chatter, right?<br />
Okay, sure, gun violence happens everywhere. So the 2 major school incidences this year, Parkland &amp; Marshall County, Kentucky, the shooters were 19 and 15.<br />
See? Not 20 -30.  </p>
<p>15 year olds!<br />
Parkland Florida- a 19 year-old.<br />
Columbine- 18 and 17. </p>
<p>I suppose some reader will now propose those &#8216;shooters&#8217; this year are just part of a leftist conspiracy to take away guns. They were paid by Hollywood, right? </p>
<p>1999<br />
Notus, IDAHO<br />
15-year-old Shawn Cooper,<br />
A 15-year-old!!!<br />
He fired two shots from a shotgun near the FRONT DESK at Notus Jr. Sr. High School.<br />
There were no serious injuries, but some students were close enough to the blast to be grazed by shrapnel from the tile floor.<br />
Cooper had been undergoing treatment for bipolar disorder.  </p>
<p>Dear FFL,<br />
How does a 15 year-old with a mental illness have access to unsupervised firearms?<br />
Must be divorced and bad parents, right?<br />
Fine. But if it&#8217;s YOUR kid attending that Notus school, you might consider a different solution for the next Shawn Cooper. </p>
<p>Notus. The town right to Guardian&#8217;s bird tour today!</p>
<p>Notus just isn&#8217;t what it used to be! </p>
<p>FFL,<br />
I have a sign for your shop&#8217;s front door: &#8220;I don&#8217;t know sh!t, but I&#8217;ll sell you some guns&#8221;</p>
<p>Mental illness has little to do with the way &#8220;we are raising our children&#8221;.</p>
<p>So,,,,, you might actually try to know decent information about the topic before you krap misinformation on the World Wide Web or in your store.<br />
Cuz if you said &#8216;that bit&#8217; while I was in your store shopping for my next $1,000 item, I would walk the f out!  Disclose the name of your store and I won&#8217;t waste my time- because that&#8217;s the way I was raised.  🙂</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Looks like we will have to close comments before someone gets shot.</p>
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		By: FFL		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/03/24/march-for-lives-could-change-politics-forever/#comment-104475</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FFL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a licensed federal firearms dealer (FFL)i have yet to see an AR-15 jump off the shelf and kill someone in my store.

It is the way we are raising our children. Almost all the school shootings are young men aged 20-30.

Likely few from homes with both a mom and dad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a licensed federal firearms dealer (FFL)i have yet to see an AR-15 jump off the shelf and kill someone in my store.</p>
<p>It is the way we are raising our children. Almost all the school shootings are young men aged 20-30.</p>
<p>Likely few from homes with both a mom and dad.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2018 22:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[bikeboy,  &quot;with much&quot;?  So,,, all, since it&#039;s all correct?.  :-)

Whether or not one &quot;could be stopped&quot; is not as important as recognizing mental illness (of all sorts) &quot;could happen&quot; to anyone.  Just like cancer.  

We should all take a vested interest in solving the issue- for the sake of Eagle Writer, at the least. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bikeboy,  &#8220;with much&#8221;?  So,,, all, since it&#8217;s all correct?.  🙂</p>
<p>Whether or not one &#8220;could be stopped&#8221; is not as important as recognizing mental illness (of all sorts) &#8220;could happen&#8221; to anyone.  Just like cancer.  </p>
<p>We should all take a vested interest in solving the issue- for the sake of Eagle Writer, at the least. 🙂</p>
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		By: Nope, nothing comes from clueless		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nope, nothing comes from clueless]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2018 22:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Killing People.  YES!!!!!  It is part of the Commie subversion of America.

Uproar at Trump for banging a professional for $50k/hour, but no mention of Bill Clinton and the teenagers.  No mention of the 18 yo JFK was banging in the White House.

This entire anti-gun event was locked and loaded just waiting for an opportunity.  All prepaid and prearranged by Bloomberg, Soros, and the teachers union.  They refuse to look at true culprits of bad parenting and vicious social climate in the schools.  Social media.  Violent gaming.  The schools look like, feel like, and are operated like prisons.

Recommend the typical parent pull their head out and force changes in the anti-American school agenda.  The kids are coming out of school dumber than ever with a very liberal/commie bent and inability to work even the simplest of jobs... such as take the trash out son.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Killing People.  YES!!!!!  It is part of the Commie subversion of America.</p>
<p>Uproar at Trump for banging a professional for $50k/hour, but no mention of Bill Clinton and the teenagers.  No mention of the 18 yo JFK was banging in the White House.</p>
<p>This entire anti-gun event was locked and loaded just waiting for an opportunity.  All prepaid and prearranged by Bloomberg, Soros, and the teachers union.  They refuse to look at true culprits of bad parenting and vicious social climate in the schools.  Social media.  Violent gaming.  The schools look like, feel like, and are operated like prisons.</p>
<p>Recommend the typical parent pull their head out and force changes in the anti-American school agenda.  The kids are coming out of school dumber than ever with a very liberal/commie bent and inability to work even the simplest of jobs&#8230; such as take the trash out son.</p>
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		By: clippityclop		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2018 22:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Responsible gun owners would have nothing to fear from tighter gun laws.  It&#039;s time, citizens.]]></description>
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		By: Killing People		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Killing People]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We have people protest when 17 people are killed by someone with a gun.
No one seems to be protesting the HUNDREDS that are killed in Chicago every month or the THOUSANDS that we kill through abortion and drunk driving.

This entire effort is to take the focus off the really problems the media will not, and does not cover.

Just one example that our society have changes dramatically over the years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have people protest when 17 people are killed by someone with a gun.<br />
No one seems to be protesting the HUNDREDS that are killed in Chicago every month or the THOUSANDS that we kill through abortion and drunk driving.</p>
<p>This entire effort is to take the focus off the really problems the media will not, and does not cover.</p>
<p>Just one example that our society have changes dramatically over the years.</p>
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		By: Mom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Social mores are much the same&quot;

No they are not. They are not even close to what they were even 15 years ago - let alone 30 years ago.

If you believe this statement it shows how uninformed you are on &quot;social mores&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Social mores are much the same&#8221;</p>
<p>No they are not. They are not even close to what they were even 15 years ago &#8211; let alone 30 years ago.</p>
<p>If you believe this statement it shows how uninformed you are on &#8220;social mores&#8221;.</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with much of what Easterner says.  (Sorry!  The &quot;rubberneck&quot; was a faux-pas... I use that moniker at some web-stops.)

I appreciate his illumination of Charles Whitman.  So - maybe Whitman COULD have been identified as a potential problem, before he went on his spree.

I believe that social mores have changed, and continue to evolve.

Normal, well-adjusted people who have a &quot;moral compass&quot; do fine with those changes.  95% of kids can watch violent movies and TV, play violent video games, listen to &quot;death metal&quot; music, and never act out in antisocial ways.  For a few, those influences probably &quot;trigger&quot; psychotic behavior, and in a very few cases, they victimize innocent bystanders.

Regarding gun control, I saw an interesting and timely analogy.

&quot;Smart phones&quot; are ubiquitous nowadays.  The vast majority of &quot;smart phone&quot; owner/operators - like gun owner/operators - use them in ways that don&#039;t cause problems for their fellow citizens.  A VERY FEW use them while driving, and end up killing and maiming innocent bystanders.  Would it make sense to illegalize &quot;smart phones&quot; for everybody, because those few end up hurting us and our loved ones?

(Notice &quot;smart phones&quot; is in quotation marks!  Personally I think the world was a better place PRE-SMART-PHONE, so I&#039;d be in favor of illgalizing them.  haha)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with much of what Easterner says.  (Sorry!  The &#8220;rubberneck&#8221; was a faux-pas&#8230; I use that moniker at some web-stops.)</p>
<p>I appreciate his illumination of Charles Whitman.  So &#8211; maybe Whitman COULD have been identified as a potential problem, before he went on his spree.</p>
<p>I believe that social mores have changed, and continue to evolve.</p>
<p>Normal, well-adjusted people who have a &#8220;moral compass&#8221; do fine with those changes.  95% of kids can watch violent movies and TV, play violent video games, listen to &#8220;death metal&#8221; music, and never act out in antisocial ways.  For a few, those influences probably &#8220;trigger&#8221; psychotic behavior, and in a very few cases, they victimize innocent bystanders.</p>
<p>Regarding gun control, I saw an interesting and timely analogy.</p>
<p>&#8220;Smart phones&#8221; are ubiquitous nowadays.  The vast majority of &#8220;smart phone&#8221; owner/operators &#8211; like gun owner/operators &#8211; use them in ways that don&#8217;t cause problems for their fellow citizens.  A VERY FEW use them while driving, and end up killing and maiming innocent bystanders.  Would it make sense to illegalize &#8220;smart phones&#8221; for everybody, because those few end up hurting us and our loved ones?</p>
<p>(Notice &#8220;smart phones&#8221; is in quotation marks!  Personally I think the world was a better place PRE-SMART-PHONE, so I&#8217;d be in favor of illgalizing them.  haha)</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2018 02:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The above comment from so named, &quot;rubberneck&quot; is wrong about Charles Whitman- including his documented visits with psychiatrists, admitted and recorded domestic violence, a court-martial for violence while in the Marine Corps (or Core for the idiots), newly divorced parents, anger at his father, and a documented brain tumor which likely caused biological and psychological impacts- mental illness!  

1966. 
First, he killed his mother and his wife; done with planning. And then planned the shooting. He told his doctors he had evil thoughts including shooting people with a deer rifle. He was prescribed Valium. He wrote a suicide note. 
Sound familiar? Sandy Hook, 2012? 
So what has changed since 1966? 

Social mores for the last 50 years? 
 I suppose someone back then in Texas said, &quot;Hey, y&#039;all, the &#039;social mores&#039; have changed since 1916&quot;. 

The National Firearms Act of 1934 was passed after gangster shootings peaked with the Saint Valentine&#039;s Day massacre of 1929; Chicago gangs, gun violence.  Social mores? 
&quot;Hey Mr. Capone, you know these murderous kids of today have just changed. They&#039;re not like we were. It must be that music they&#039;re listening to.&quot;  Bonnie and Clyde were young too.


Any claim of &quot;social mores&quot; or &quot;video games&quot; is a lame denial of the cause. 
It is mental illness! And not enough is being done to address the real issue because the social NORM has been to deny the issue and blame something else. 

YES! Eagle Scouts can shoot innocent people when they suffer from mental illness!  
 
And EVERYONE is susceptible to mental illness- which is exactly why we should all be clamoring for funding mental screening and treatment. 
Maybe the next 50 years will be more about brain illness instead of spending our resources on self-induced lung and heart illnesses.  

That can start with more state funding of the Idaho Suicide Hotline. 

Now, I have to get back to my Xbox.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above comment from so named, &#8220;rubberneck&#8221; is wrong about Charles Whitman- including his documented visits with psychiatrists, admitted and recorded domestic violence, a court-martial for violence while in the Marine Corps (or Core for the idiots), newly divorced parents, anger at his father, and a documented brain tumor which likely caused biological and psychological impacts- mental illness!  </p>
<p>1966.<br />
First, he killed his mother and his wife; done with planning. And then planned the shooting. He told his doctors he had evil thoughts including shooting people with a deer rifle. He was prescribed Valium. He wrote a suicide note.<br />
Sound familiar? Sandy Hook, 2012?<br />
So what has changed since 1966? </p>
<p>Social mores for the last 50 years?<br />
 I suppose someone back then in Texas said, &#8220;Hey, y&#8217;all, the &#8216;social mores&#8217; have changed since 1916&#8221;. </p>
<p>The National Firearms Act of 1934 was passed after gangster shootings peaked with the Saint Valentine&#8217;s Day massacre of 1929; Chicago gangs, gun violence.  Social mores?<br />
&#8220;Hey Mr. Capone, you know these murderous kids of today have just changed. They&#8217;re not like we were. It must be that music they&#8217;re listening to.&#8221;  Bonnie and Clyde were young too.</p>
<p>Any claim of &#8220;social mores&#8221; or &#8220;video games&#8221; is a lame denial of the cause.<br />
It is mental illness! And not enough is being done to address the real issue because the social NORM has been to deny the issue and blame something else. </p>
<p>YES! Eagle Scouts can shoot innocent people when they suffer from mental illness!  </p>
<p>And EVERYONE is susceptible to mental illness- which is exactly why we should all be clamoring for funding mental screening and treatment.<br />
Maybe the next 50 years will be more about brain illness instead of spending our resources on self-induced lung and heart illnesses.  </p>
<p>That can start with more state funding of the Idaho Suicide Hotline. </p>
<p>Now, I have to get back to my Xbox.</p>
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		By: Yossarian_22		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2018 23:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Using children that are still under adult supervision for most of their lives (if their parents are even qualified adults), that are easily suggestible and manipulated, without being presented facts on the ground that are contrary to the perceptions being created for them, is wholly disgusting and evil. No one knows how to discern actual events anymore. People merely believe every media soundbite they hear. There is no more critical thinking. No more working knowledge of how things and systems work. We have truly reached an Orwellian era of pure media/govt lying, especially with this issue. 

And the parallels of blaming the NRA for all of these acts is synonymous with pointing at Saddam Hussein as a reason to invade Iraq. It&#039;s like painting &quot;This is for you Saddam&quot; on a bomb. The real victim is an innocent Iraqi. Attacking the NRA bogeyman is an excuse to pass legislation that will eviscerate the 2nd Amendment, bit by bit (Iraqi by Iraqi) until there are no more legal gun owners (Iraqis). Legal gun owners are the REAL target of the deplorable adults hiding behind these misinformed children. 

They will create as many events as possible to force the end of the Bill of Rights. 9-11 destroyed the 4th and 6th Amendment. The end of America is at hand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using children that are still under adult supervision for most of their lives (if their parents are even qualified adults), that are easily suggestible and manipulated, without being presented facts on the ground that are contrary to the perceptions being created for them, is wholly disgusting and evil. No one knows how to discern actual events anymore. People merely believe every media soundbite they hear. There is no more critical thinking. No more working knowledge of how things and systems work. We have truly reached an Orwellian era of pure media/govt lying, especially with this issue. </p>
<p>And the parallels of blaming the NRA for all of these acts is synonymous with pointing at Saddam Hussein as a reason to invade Iraq. It&#8217;s like painting &#8220;This is for you Saddam&#8221; on a bomb. The real victim is an innocent Iraqi. Attacking the NRA bogeyman is an excuse to pass legislation that will eviscerate the 2nd Amendment, bit by bit (Iraqi by Iraqi) until there are no more legal gun owners (Iraqis). Legal gun owners are the REAL target of the deplorable adults hiding behind these misinformed children. </p>
<p>They will create as many events as possible to force the end of the Bill of Rights. 9-11 destroyed the 4th and 6th Amendment. The end of America is at hand.</p>
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