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		By: Melody		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melody]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2018 02:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I always in joy reading this blog and really like it when easterner chimes in and shows why we don&#039;t need anymore like him around the valley. 

Just a quick question - did the Air Force guy at the meeting think the meeting was going to be so hot and volatile that he needed to wear the Nomex flight suit? Or did he fly in in an F-35?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always in joy reading this blog and really like it when easterner chimes in and shows why we don&#8217;t need anymore like him around the valley. </p>
<p>Just a quick question &#8211; did the Air Force guy at the meeting think the meeting was going to be so hot and volatile that he needed to wear the Nomex flight suit? Or did he fly in in an F-35?</p>
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		By: Keep Boise Unique		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keep Boise Unique]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2018 20:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s very good for patriotic people to ask lots of probing questions of our government and its military. As great as is America, it&#039;s not as though our government is not subject to incompetence, or even corruption. It takes a vigilant citizenry to make a democracy work, and I heartily thank the people who make the effort to attend these meetings, and seek answers that are to the benefit of us all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s very good for patriotic people to ask lots of probing questions of our government and its military. As great as is America, it&#8217;s not as though our government is not subject to incompetence, or even corruption. It takes a vigilant citizenry to make a democracy work, and I heartily thank the people who make the effort to attend these meetings, and seek answers that are to the benefit of us all.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/04/13/report-on-air-force-range-plans-over-boise/#comment-104570</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2018 17:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s odd Katie,  In THIS photo we see EMPTY chairs being unused, two in the FRONT row and plenty against the wall, and no one STANDING against the wall where there is plenty of space to &#039;stand&#039; for a good spot.  

If you say so...  But even a 100 would be an EXTREMELY low turn-out for Boise.  A space was RESERVED for 40 despite there being an auditorium with more capacity. 

&quot;Canceled Due to Lack of Interest&quot; as my physics teacher used to say. 


the LIBRARY says this: 
The Marion Bingham Room- Location: Main Library - 715 S. Capitol Blvd.

Capacity: 65; 40 for viewing television, slides, etc.  

So they set  it up for 40 and there are empty chairs. = 80-100??   

&quot;No body else cares&quot;

EDITOR NOTE--I took the picture and due to a structural support column, more than half the audience was not visible.  The head count was variable as some folks came and went.  Many were indeed standing.  Arguing about the size of the audience is petty and not worth discussion.  In Twin Falls and Glens Ferry only the mayors showed up.  It would be fair to claim &quot;80 times as many people attended in Boise .&quot;  The low turnout was due to clumsy notification by the Air Force and lack of service to the community by the legacy media.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s odd Katie,  In THIS photo we see EMPTY chairs being unused, two in the FRONT row and plenty against the wall, and no one STANDING against the wall where there is plenty of space to &#8216;stand&#8217; for a good spot.  </p>
<p>If you say so&#8230;  But even a 100 would be an EXTREMELY low turn-out for Boise.  A space was RESERVED for 40 despite there being an auditorium with more capacity. </p>
<p>&#8220;Canceled Due to Lack of Interest&#8221; as my physics teacher used to say. </p>
<p>the LIBRARY says this:<br />
The Marion Bingham Room- Location: Main Library &#8211; 715 S. Capitol Blvd.</p>
<p>Capacity: 65; 40 for viewing television, slides, etc.  </p>
<p>So they set  it up for 40 and there are empty chairs. = 80-100??   </p>
<p>&#8220;No body else cares&#8221;</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;I took the picture and due to a structural support column, more than half the audience was not visible.  The head count was variable as some folks came and went.  Many were indeed standing.  Arguing about the size of the audience is petty and not worth discussion.  In Twin Falls and Glens Ferry only the mayors showed up.  It would be fair to claim &#8220;80 times as many people attended in Boise .&#8221;  The low turnout was due to clumsy notification by the Air Force and lack of service to the community by the legacy media.  </p>
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		By: katie fite		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/04/13/report-on-air-force-range-plans-over-boise/#comment-104568</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[katie fite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2018 15:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Easterner: Katie Kite here. The meeting was Standing Room only in the Marion Bingham Room. 80  - 100 people is my guess  - as some folks had to leave early, but others showed up at the time of the little-publicized meeting which overlapped with work and commute hours.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easterner: Katie Kite here. The meeting was Standing Room only in the Marion Bingham Room. 80  &#8211; 100 people is my guess  &#8211; as some folks had to leave early, but others showed up at the time of the little-publicized meeting which overlapped with work and commute hours.</p>
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		By: DAILY ASSAULTS ON QUALITY OF LIFE		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/04/13/report-on-air-force-range-plans-over-boise/#comment-104566</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DAILY ASSAULTS ON QUALITY OF LIFE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Quality of Life in Boise does not exist. Most Livable City is the nickname for the marketing campaign to draw more people to Boise and Idaho. What we do have now daily is a new public meeting to announce yet another initiative with impacts on us, such as our terrible air quality, more noise, and usually higher taxes.

Since Mayor Bieter is always after new tax revenues, he must be bringing these initiatives to us (from his friends). At least, I have never heard him publicly oppose any of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Quality of Life in Boise does not exist. Most Livable City is the nickname for the marketing campaign to draw more people to Boise and Idaho. What we do have now daily is a new public meeting to announce yet another initiative with impacts on us, such as our terrible air quality, more noise, and usually higher taxes.</p>
<p>Since Mayor Bieter is always after new tax revenues, he must be bringing these initiatives to us (from his friends). At least, I have never heard him publicly oppose any of them.</p>
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		By: For Profit?		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/04/13/report-on-air-force-range-plans-over-boise/#comment-104565</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[For Profit?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2018 04:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is it possible or probable that we the people of Boise will be used for target practice while military contractors are profiting from the exercises?  This should not be allowed in the same sense that cattle should not graze public lands for free, nor drilling, nor waste storage, etc. etc.

I do believe we&#039;ve stumbled into a defense contractor&#039;s business enterprise.  It’s hiding in plain sight behind the patriotic &#039;support of troops&#039; banner.   Mr. Mayor, you could probably make enough in fees off of this new urban training range to pay for your friends to do another trolley study.  Why give it away?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible or probable that we the people of Boise will be used for target practice while military contractors are profiting from the exercises?  This should not be allowed in the same sense that cattle should not graze public lands for free, nor drilling, nor waste storage, etc. etc.</p>
<p>I do believe we&#8217;ve stumbled into a defense contractor&#8217;s business enterprise.  It’s hiding in plain sight behind the patriotic &#8216;support of troops&#8217; banner.   Mr. Mayor, you could probably make enough in fees off of this new urban training range to pay for your friends to do another trolley study.  Why give it away?</p>
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		By: Keep Boise Unique		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/04/13/report-on-air-force-range-plans-over-boise/#comment-104564</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keep Boise Unique]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I truly appreciate the Guardian and commenters keeping us informed about this unsettling military activity. I don&#039;t know how Boise is so lucky to be the setting for these war games. Maybe the jets can be used by City Hall to actually demolish historic buildings that get in the way of unrestrained development.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly appreciate the Guardian and commenters keeping us informed about this unsettling military activity. I don&#8217;t know how Boise is so lucky to be the setting for these war games. Maybe the jets can be used by City Hall to actually demolish historic buildings that get in the way of unrestrained development.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[perhaps some people are missing the point that part of the training is for the ground crew as well.   

Their training is, &quot;You must operate in this environment WITHOUT being detected or noticed&quot;. 

Wearing a uniform or driving a marked mark does NOTHING for the ground controller.
 This isn&#039;t science and it&#039;s pretty easy to realize the objectives for such training, right? 

So it is perfectly acceptable to be in disguise-- absolutely. 
IF someone does call 911 to report suspicious behavior, that controller has failed the training.  
In Syria, that controller would be dead. In Boise, 12 cops might show up (maybe just as lethal though).
This training is essential - specially given our current world situation. 

And you all may misunderstand how those lasers work.  They&#039;re not using the same laser you use to play with your cat. 

If this actually happens-I would ask Katie Kite to intentionally go find those ground crews and identify the jets . It will be fun.  Maybe they could give you a call-sign as the enemy spotter adversary, like &quot;Killer Kate the Kat Lady&quot; But don&#039;t expect they tell you when and where they will be. If you get a photo of a confirmed spotter or a jet in training, I&#039;ll give $100 to your favorite enviro-terrorism group.

----A lot of unnecessary worry and meddling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps some people are missing the point that part of the training is for the ground crew as well.   </p>
<p>Their training is, &#8220;You must operate in this environment WITHOUT being detected or noticed&#8221;. </p>
<p>Wearing a uniform or driving a marked mark does NOTHING for the ground controller.<br />
 This isn&#8217;t science and it&#8217;s pretty easy to realize the objectives for such training, right? </p>
<p>So it is perfectly acceptable to be in disguise&#8211; absolutely.<br />
IF someone does call 911 to report suspicious behavior, that controller has failed the training.<br />
In Syria, that controller would be dead. In Boise, 12 cops might show up (maybe just as lethal though).<br />
This training is essential &#8211; specially given our current world situation. </p>
<p>And you all may misunderstand how those lasers work.  They&#8217;re not using the same laser you use to play with your cat. </p>
<p>If this actually happens-I would ask Katie Kite to intentionally go find those ground crews and identify the jets . It will be fun.  Maybe they could give you a call-sign as the enemy spotter adversary, like &#8220;Killer Kate the Kat Lady&#8221; But don&#8217;t expect they tell you when and where they will be. If you get a photo of a confirmed spotter or a jet in training, I&#8217;ll give $100 to your favorite enviro-terrorism group.</p>
<p>&#8212;-A lot of unnecessary worry and meddling.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2018 23:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I count 13 inquiring people in the picture.  
How total many showed up?  
Were any of them under age 40?
Any of them live more than 1 mile from the airport? 
Any of them support the F-35 in Boise? 

The answer to the questions asked is, &quot;Who gives a rat&#039;s ass?&quot; 
(Other than the 20 people in attendance)


Dear Air Force, 
You are welcomed to use my house for a target. It is the one with a giant peace sign painted on the roof.. 

You are welcome to invite our allied air force pilots as well. I understand interacting with air/ground control and communication training is important for all- including those USAF operates with in theater. 

I don&#039;t care if your fly-bys upset the red-wing warblers in my yard, or my dog. 

And I am sure your pilots are just as concerned about their lives as they are bout mine.  

Your ground spotters should be armed. That&#039;s why they are called military. 

Welcome and happy flying!  

Pizza afterwards at my place. RSVP]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I count 13 inquiring people in the picture.<br />
How total many showed up?<br />
Were any of them under age 40?<br />
Any of them live more than 1 mile from the airport?<br />
Any of them support the F-35 in Boise? </p>
<p>The answer to the questions asked is, &#8220;Who gives a rat&#8217;s ass?&#8221;<br />
(Other than the 20 people in attendance)</p>
<p>Dear Air Force,<br />
You are welcomed to use my house for a target. It is the one with a giant peace sign painted on the roof.. </p>
<p>You are welcome to invite our allied air force pilots as well. I understand interacting with air/ground control and communication training is important for all- including those USAF operates with in theater. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if your fly-bys upset the red-wing warblers in my yard, or my dog. </p>
<p>And I am sure your pilots are just as concerned about their lives as they are bout mine.  </p>
<p>Your ground spotters should be armed. That&#8217;s why they are called military. </p>
<p>Welcome and happy flying!  </p>
<p>Pizza afterwards at my place. RSVP</p>
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		By: katie fite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[katie fite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2018 19:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rabula: YES. I think you have hit on something. There is evidently a growing military contractor industry associated with CAS. And there is the paving and building contractor industry associated with always building more stuff at MHAFB for Singapore so that Idaho&#039;s public lands and wildlife can be sacrificed for training disturbance from a foreign military. And now under the MHAFB Urban CAS scheme, we civilians are about to become a Training Asset of sorts. YOU can bet someone will find way to profit off us being War Game fodder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabula: YES. I think you have hit on something. There is evidently a growing military contractor industry associated with CAS. And there is the paving and building contractor industry associated with always building more stuff at MHAFB for Singapore so that Idaho&#8217;s public lands and wildlife can be sacrificed for training disturbance from a foreign military. And now under the MHAFB Urban CAS scheme, we civilians are about to become a Training Asset of sorts. YOU can bet someone will find way to profit off us being War Game fodder.</p>
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