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		By: Chickenhawk		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/04/17/crowd-jeers-stadium-guy-like-an-umpire/#comment-104656</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chickenhawk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2018 17:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If this were such a great idea then corporations and private donors would be lining up to sponsor it.  Greenstone would not even have to ask the taxpayers to open up their wallets.

Hawks Memorial Stadium is more than adequate for a short-season A franchise.  Just remodel the dam thing since it&#039;s already in a prime location.  Downtown is not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this were such a great idea then corporations and private donors would be lining up to sponsor it.  Greenstone would not even have to ask the taxpayers to open up their wallets.</p>
<p>Hawks Memorial Stadium is more than adequate for a short-season A franchise.  Just remodel the dam thing since it&#8217;s already in a prime location.  Downtown is not.</p>
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		By: Porcupine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Porcupine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 01:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remember a quote from Helen Keller if my old mind remembers...“Do not think of todays failures, but of the success that may come tomorrow.” 

James Thomas Hodgkinson became very frustrated with the Republicans ( Have to admit I&#039;m frustrated with all of them)  and started shooting at all of them at a baseball team practice  while they were on the field.  And as you know Steve Scalise was shot.  And also as you remember  Gabrielle Giffords was shot at a rally.( may have not been politically motived)  I could go on with the list if you would like but no need.

In any situation that a person is upset and frustrated many bad things can happen. Any one can bring a gun to a meeting and then they lose control.... or think they can solve the problem with killing some one.

Several years ago in Boise, I remember a miner that was in a deposition with his family about a dispute over a mining claim.  He was very frustrated and fed up.  He pulled out a gun and shot his family and shot the lawyer( Patrick Miller who still works at Givens Pusley) during the deposition.
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19931217&#038;slug=1737463

I know Patrick and it was a life changer for him....People should calm down and do things the right way.  Vote them out of office..Guardian does a good job of calming people down.  Since we are about the same age he has seen what happens when mobs get out of control. All it takes is one off balance person. 

FYI... If I remember M and M depositions was on Fort Street.. (Correct me if I am wrong Mr. Guardian)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a quote from Helen Keller if my old mind remembers&#8230;“Do not think of todays failures, but of the success that may come tomorrow.” </p>
<p>James Thomas Hodgkinson became very frustrated with the Republicans ( Have to admit I&#8217;m frustrated with all of them)  and started shooting at all of them at a baseball team practice  while they were on the field.  And as you know Steve Scalise was shot.  And also as you remember  Gabrielle Giffords was shot at a rally.( may have not been politically motived)  I could go on with the list if you would like but no need.</p>
<p>In any situation that a person is upset and frustrated many bad things can happen. Any one can bring a gun to a meeting and then they lose control&#8230;. or think they can solve the problem with killing some one.</p>
<p>Several years ago in Boise, I remember a miner that was in a deposition with his family about a dispute over a mining claim.  He was very frustrated and fed up.  He pulled out a gun and shot his family and shot the lawyer( Patrick Miller who still works at Givens Pusley) during the deposition.<br />
<a href="http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19931217&#038;slug=1737463" rel="nofollow ugc">http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19931217&#038;slug=1737463</a></p>
<p>I know Patrick and it was a life changer for him&#8230;.People should calm down and do things the right way.  Vote them out of office..Guardian does a good job of calming people down.  Since we are about the same age he has seen what happens when mobs get out of control. All it takes is one off balance person. </p>
<p>FYI&#8230; If I remember M and M depositions was on Fort Street.. (Correct me if I am wrong Mr. Guardian)</p>
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		By: Clippityclop		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clippityclop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2018 03:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Porcupine,
I agree completely with the power of the vote.
The sad thing is, no matter how civil and thoughtful and well reasoned a citizen is at these developer meetings, they are never taken seriously.  The deal is already made.  This is window dressing.  That&#039;s why the public has become so outraged.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Porcupine,<br />
I agree completely with the power of the vote.<br />
The sad thing is, no matter how civil and thoughtful and well reasoned a citizen is at these developer meetings, they are never taken seriously.  The deal is already made.  This is window dressing.  That&#8217;s why the public has become so outraged.</p>
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		By: Porcupine		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/04/17/crowd-jeers-stadium-guy-like-an-umpire/#comment-104638</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Porcupine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2018 12:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr Clippityclop
When you look at several of the recent shootings  you will find that the shooter has had pent up frustrations and they are fed up.... with some situation.
When you get a mob screaming and yelling and with Idaho&#039;s gun laws it isn&#039;t hard to see what could happen.  I doubt that mob will make any difference to the developer.  As JJ said there are appropriate ways to express your opinion....

Spend your time and money trying to vote them out of office.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Clippityclop<br />
When you look at several of the recent shootings  you will find that the shooter has had pent up frustrations and they are fed up&#8230;. with some situation.<br />
When you get a mob screaming and yelling and with Idaho&#8217;s gun laws it isn&#8217;t hard to see what could happen.  I doubt that mob will make any difference to the developer.  As JJ said there are appropriate ways to express your opinion&#8230;.</p>
<p>Spend your time and money trying to vote them out of office.</p>
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		By: Livin' the life		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/04/17/crowd-jeers-stadium-guy-like-an-umpire/#comment-104636</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Livin' the life]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2018 00:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Each time the participants, St. Lukes, CWI, CCDC, city, fans, business owners, opt to agree with the lies about the benefits of this particular b-ball deal, they have given away their power to influence life in Boise for the good.  The mastermind of the deal looks for players that agree with the lies that must be marketed, and they are forever needing the praise of that mastermind.  The mastermind cares not so much about the deal, as the acquiescence to the lie, and the power it gives the mastermind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each time the participants, St. Lukes, CWI, CCDC, city, fans, business owners, opt to agree with the lies about the benefits of this particular b-ball deal, they have given away their power to influence life in Boise for the good.  The mastermind of the deal looks for players that agree with the lies that must be marketed, and they are forever needing the praise of that mastermind.  The mastermind cares not so much about the deal, as the acquiescence to the lie, and the power it gives the mastermind.</p>
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		By: Clippityclop		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clippityclop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2018 21:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think what you are witnessing is pent up frustration from citizens whose voices are never really heard in these pro forma neighborhood meetings.  The people are fed up with developers who couldn&#039;t care less about community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what you are witnessing is pent up frustration from citizens whose voices are never really heard in these pro forma neighborhood meetings.  The people are fed up with developers who couldn&#8217;t care less about community.</p>
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		By: Porcupine		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/04/17/crowd-jeers-stadium-guy-like-an-umpire/#comment-104628</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Porcupine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2018 18:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JJ is so right about the mob.  When you watch the video they looked like a bunch of spoiled college kids.   A few weeks ago Tim Cook the CEO of Apple was reported saying “Democracy without discourse is not a democracy.”   When I watched the video I thought that Joesph Stalin is smiling from Hell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ is so right about the mob.  When you watch the video they looked like a bunch of spoiled college kids.   A few weeks ago Tim Cook the CEO of Apple was reported saying “Democracy without discourse is not a democracy.”   When I watched the video I thought that Joesph Stalin is smiling from Hell.</p>
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		By: JJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2018 17:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The developer donating the land for the stadium to the City is not a developer contribution, they are purposefully improving their returns by eliminating the liability of property taxes.  Transfer of the land to the City should not be considered a developer contribution.  The City should do what is best for the City, that is keeping the stadium on the property tax paying rolls.  For the City to own the land is only a liability for the citizens and a tax shelter for the developer.

I am in favor of a property-tax paying privately funded baseball stadium at that location, or another location.

I can appreciate the crowd&#039;s frustration at the public meeting, but watching the video, the attorney for the developer demonstrated professionalism and civil discourse, some of the crowd was really a mob and should be embarrassed of their behavior.  There are appropriate ways to express your opinion other than shouting down and cutting off others who have an opinion different than yours.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The developer donating the land for the stadium to the City is not a developer contribution, they are purposefully improving their returns by eliminating the liability of property taxes.  Transfer of the land to the City should not be considered a developer contribution.  The City should do what is best for the City, that is keeping the stadium on the property tax paying rolls.  For the City to own the land is only a liability for the citizens and a tax shelter for the developer.</p>
<p>I am in favor of a property-tax paying privately funded baseball stadium at that location, or another location.</p>
<p>I can appreciate the crowd&#8217;s frustration at the public meeting, but watching the video, the attorney for the developer demonstrated professionalism and civil discourse, some of the crowd was really a mob and should be embarrassed of their behavior.  There are appropriate ways to express your opinion other than shouting down and cutting off others who have an opinion different than yours.</p>
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		By: KC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2018 04:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boise Brad- YES!! I&#039;ve been saying the outlet mall site is the best place for a long time now!! Thank you!! We need to keep up that thought and spread the word. Others complain that they can&#039;t ride their bikes there but those comments are being made by those living close to downtown only.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boise Brad- YES!! I&#8217;ve been saying the outlet mall site is the best place for a long time now!! Thank you!! We need to keep up that thought and spread the word. Others complain that they can&#8217;t ride their bikes there but those comments are being made by those living close to downtown only.</p>
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		By: Boise Brad		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/04/17/crowd-jeers-stadium-guy-like-an-umpire/#comment-104620</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boise Brad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2018 03:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alternative that should keep Mayor Beiter very happy. 100% of all check marks completed.

The City of Boise owns hundreds of acres of unused and undeveloped property next to the Boise Outlet Mall / Ice World on Eisenman Road.  It has Boise owned railroad tracks right next to the property.  Parking would not be a problem.  Lots of room for developers to build hotels, motels, office buildings.  The Mayor could run his trolley out there every 15 minutes on the city owned tracks.
The perfect solution to a wasteland in the desert.
In fact, it would be in the flight path for those Oh-So-Quiet F-35&#039;s that the Mayor wants for Boise.  I am sure that those would not affect a pitcher or batter&#039;s performance on a Friday evening.
The land produces no property taxes now so the tax base could only go up.

Anybody else want to help promote this alternative?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alternative that should keep Mayor Beiter very happy. 100% of all check marks completed.</p>
<p>The City of Boise owns hundreds of acres of unused and undeveloped property next to the Boise Outlet Mall / Ice World on Eisenman Road.  It has Boise owned railroad tracks right next to the property.  Parking would not be a problem.  Lots of room for developers to build hotels, motels, office buildings.  The Mayor could run his trolley out there every 15 minutes on the city owned tracks.<br />
The perfect solution to a wasteland in the desert.<br />
In fact, it would be in the flight path for those Oh-So-Quiet F-35&#8217;s that the Mayor wants for Boise.  I am sure that those would not affect a pitcher or batter&#8217;s performance on a Friday evening.<br />
The land produces no property taxes now so the tax base could only go up.</p>
<p>Anybody else want to help promote this alternative?</p>
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