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		By: Casmir		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/05/22/growing-to-death-like-cancer/#comment-104827</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 22:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yossarian 22 - You nailed it.  The average Joe is being played, and the phony left/right,  R vs D paradigm is  nothing but a method of enabling the powerful to render the voting public impotent - leaving them to carve up the spoils for themselves.  Big corporatism and big interests dominate - and it&#039;s not positive for the country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yossarian 22 &#8211; You nailed it.  The average Joe is being played, and the phony left/right,  R vs D paradigm is  nothing but a method of enabling the powerful to render the voting public impotent &#8211; leaving them to carve up the spoils for themselves.  Big corporatism and big interests dominate &#8211; and it&#8217;s not positive for the country.</p>
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		By: JoJo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/05/22/growing-to-death-like-cancer/#comment-104826</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2018 14:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Easterner, really?  That attitude shows everything I really hate about living here.  To be clear, I&#039;m not a fan of the growth, either.  I grew up in Nampa, and watched the rec center pave over a field where I used to kick up a rooster pheasant or two when I&#039;d walk to junior high.  And my friends would bring their shotguns to school (and left them in their trucks, of course) to go dove hunting after school.  But I digress...

Exactly what kind of community do you want to live in?  I&#039;m not a fan of all the people coming, but I don&#039;t know how to stop them.  I won&#039;t shop at the Village, just to show my displeasure.  And I shop at the D&#038;B in my neighborhood, because they reused existing construction and are locally owned.  Maybe if more people did this, the edge would come off the crazy.  But I&#039;d also like to live in a community where providing the type of education called out for in the state constitution is taken seriously.  And I love the open space we&#039;ve preserved.  How do we pay for that?  I&#039;ve voted multiple times to raise my personal taxes (at the Federal, state, and local levels).  I understand it takes money to try to preserve the type of community where I want to live.

I do believe in impact fees and local option taxes.  But neither are legal right now.  If we are going to have growth, I believe it should pay for itself.  But since I can&#039;t stop growth very easily, I&#039;m willing to put my money where my mouth is.  Why aren&#039;t you?

Just so tired of the &quot;I got mine, the hell with the rest of you&quot; attitude that pervades my country, and especially my state.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easterner, really?  That attitude shows everything I really hate about living here.  To be clear, I&#8217;m not a fan of the growth, either.  I grew up in Nampa, and watched the rec center pave over a field where I used to kick up a rooster pheasant or two when I&#8217;d walk to junior high.  And my friends would bring their shotguns to school (and left them in their trucks, of course) to go dove hunting after school.  But I digress&#8230;</p>
<p>Exactly what kind of community do you want to live in?  I&#8217;m not a fan of all the people coming, but I don&#8217;t know how to stop them.  I won&#8217;t shop at the Village, just to show my displeasure.  And I shop at the D&amp;B in my neighborhood, because they reused existing construction and are locally owned.  Maybe if more people did this, the edge would come off the crazy.  But I&#8217;d also like to live in a community where providing the type of education called out for in the state constitution is taken seriously.  And I love the open space we&#8217;ve preserved.  How do we pay for that?  I&#8217;ve voted multiple times to raise my personal taxes (at the Federal, state, and local levels).  I understand it takes money to try to preserve the type of community where I want to live.</p>
<p>I do believe in impact fees and local option taxes.  But neither are legal right now.  If we are going to have growth, I believe it should pay for itself.  But since I can&#8217;t stop growth very easily, I&#8217;m willing to put my money where my mouth is.  Why aren&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Just so tired of the &#8220;I got mine, the hell with the rest of you&#8221; attitude that pervades my country, and especially my state.</p>
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		By: Have been thinking		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/05/22/growing-to-death-like-cancer/#comment-104824</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2018 16:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mulled over the idea of these tax incentives for business relocating here, and have found some insight.  It is offensive, first and foremost, and it puts existing business at a huge disadvantage. But, here goes.  

On the other hand, let us suppose there is demand for a product or service in the area, say a plumber, architect, or physician.  If you are qualified and trained in those areas, you will face tremendous start up costs and will likely barely make it for a while, therefore not contributing much in the way of income tax.  You will still be hit paying property tax though.  You will struggle to pay your employees.  

Coming and being asked to bring your employees should say right off the bat that there is not a qualified work force for you to hire.  

And, California is a nice place, but not everywhere.  Some parts do have problems just like Boise because excess income in some sectors like tech. and med. push prices up.  

Don&#039;t have real answers other than vote the bums out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mulled over the idea of these tax incentives for business relocating here, and have found some insight.  It is offensive, first and foremost, and it puts existing business at a huge disadvantage. But, here goes.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, let us suppose there is demand for a product or service in the area, say a plumber, architect, or physician.  If you are qualified and trained in those areas, you will face tremendous start up costs and will likely barely make it for a while, therefore not contributing much in the way of income tax.  You will still be hit paying property tax though.  You will struggle to pay your employees.  </p>
<p>Coming and being asked to bring your employees should say right off the bat that there is not a qualified work force for you to hire.  </p>
<p>And, California is a nice place, but not everywhere.  Some parts do have problems just like Boise because excess income in some sectors like tech. and med. push prices up.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t have real answers other than vote the bums out.</p>
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		By: Yossarian_22		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/05/22/growing-to-death-like-cancer/#comment-104823</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2018 18:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is entirely proper to ask commercial entities to share equally in paying for amenities that they enjoy considerable benefits from. Why should tax paying residents and workers haul the load by themselves? If you are a big employer here to do honest work by us, then great, but pay your fair share, please.

There are several issues here, under the growth umbrella:

1) Commercial interests know they can bully local governments into special tax breaks and free stuff, because only BIG business is allowed to create jobs anymore. The concept of promoting thriving small businesses is now a anachronism that enjoys lip service in political campaigns, where the fact that setting up a successful mom and pop is rife with burdensome financial and regulatory hurdles. 

2) The ironic phenomenon of Californians escaping that cesspool and flocking to Idaho might carry the same disease to this oasis of open freedom. This is not a given. Many Calis come here to seek what we have in lifestyle and have no intention of altering it. But, there are elements that will transport their bad habits and commie culture to Idaho as well. Team Dave is only so happy to embrace this. 

3) How we tax has become very regressive. If you are a long time native resident, keep to yourself and play by the rules, you have to subsidize changes that you DON&#039;T agree with, most of the time. Property taxes basically say that you never truly own your own home or land. You get nicked for just existing. I believe that we should throw away ALL forms of taxation and produce a consumption tax that nicks every payment/settlement event at about 1 tenth of 1% of every P/S. This would yield many times over what all our taxes currently yield, without any massive bureaus needed. This would lower the taxes of 90 to 99% of us and grab trillions of untaxed dollars from the shadow banking community. 

4) New political paradigm. There are no more liberals vs conservatives. We are seeing the realization that most people are populists and they are fighting whacked out elitists. Look at this NXIVM indictment. Sicko elites and movie stars are engaged in horrific acts and are politically connected to those more foul in government, in occult dealings. These are the whackos making all the important decisions. Normal people just want to be rid of this. We don&#039;t want to subsidize it anymore. We want our country back, if we ever had it to begin with. The NXIVM deal is just the tip of the iceberg and there are 25,000 more indictments to unseal. 

Bottom line is, we need to vet what our growth looks like. Don&#039;t let human trafficking rings get any more of a hook in Idaho, than they already have. This is the poison that influences the centers of power.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is entirely proper to ask commercial entities to share equally in paying for amenities that they enjoy considerable benefits from. Why should tax paying residents and workers haul the load by themselves? If you are a big employer here to do honest work by us, then great, but pay your fair share, please.</p>
<p>There are several issues here, under the growth umbrella:</p>
<p>1) Commercial interests know they can bully local governments into special tax breaks and free stuff, because only BIG business is allowed to create jobs anymore. The concept of promoting thriving small businesses is now a anachronism that enjoys lip service in political campaigns, where the fact that setting up a successful mom and pop is rife with burdensome financial and regulatory hurdles. </p>
<p>2) The ironic phenomenon of Californians escaping that cesspool and flocking to Idaho might carry the same disease to this oasis of open freedom. This is not a given. Many Calis come here to seek what we have in lifestyle and have no intention of altering it. But, there are elements that will transport their bad habits and commie culture to Idaho as well. Team Dave is only so happy to embrace this. </p>
<p>3) How we tax has become very regressive. If you are a long time native resident, keep to yourself and play by the rules, you have to subsidize changes that you DON&#8217;T agree with, most of the time. Property taxes basically say that you never truly own your own home or land. You get nicked for just existing. I believe that we should throw away ALL forms of taxation and produce a consumption tax that nicks every payment/settlement event at about 1 tenth of 1% of every P/S. This would yield many times over what all our taxes currently yield, without any massive bureaus needed. This would lower the taxes of 90 to 99% of us and grab trillions of untaxed dollars from the shadow banking community. </p>
<p>4) New political paradigm. There are no more liberals vs conservatives. We are seeing the realization that most people are populists and they are fighting whacked out elitists. Look at this NXIVM indictment. Sicko elites and movie stars are engaged in horrific acts and are politically connected to those more foul in government, in occult dealings. These are the whackos making all the important decisions. Normal people just want to be rid of this. We don&#8217;t want to subsidize it anymore. We want our country back, if we ever had it to begin with. The NXIVM deal is just the tip of the iceberg and there are 25,000 more indictments to unseal. </p>
<p>Bottom line is, we need to vet what our growth looks like. Don&#8217;t let human trafficking rings get any more of a hook in Idaho, than they already have. This is the poison that influences the centers of power.</p>
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		By: Casmir		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/05/22/growing-to-death-like-cancer/#comment-104819</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Casmir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2018 21:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good comments all.   This is an outrage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comments all.   This is an outrage.</p>
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		By: Business Guy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/05/22/growing-to-death-like-cancer/#comment-104818</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Business Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2018 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Editor - are you  suggesting that those who get handouts from the Commerce Dept are &quot;invasive species&quot;? Not a bad assumption. 

It would appear that only those who come to invade get the payouts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Editor &#8211; are you  suggesting that those who get handouts from the Commerce Dept are &#8220;invasive species&#8221;? Not a bad assumption. </p>
<p>It would appear that only those who come to invade get the payouts.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/05/22/growing-to-death-like-cancer/#comment-104817</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2018 18:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Porcupine, those two points are so far apart they&#039;re not even in the same universe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Porcupine, those two points are so far apart they&#8217;re not even in the same universe.</p>
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		By: Porcupine		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/05/22/growing-to-death-like-cancer/#comment-104815</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Porcupine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2018 13:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a strange  life Mr Guardian... I was talking to a women at work yesterday that was mad about the growth in Idaho... but she had a refugees welcome bumper sticker on her car.....I have a feeling many of the refugees that are coming in are getting some of the same give aways that the big corporations get.... just on a smaller scale.
JMHO]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a strange  life Mr Guardian&#8230; I was talking to a women at work yesterday that was mad about the growth in Idaho&#8230; but she had a refugees welcome bumper sticker on her car&#8230;..I have a feeling many of the refugees that are coming in are getting some of the same give aways that the big corporations get&#8230;. just on a smaller scale.<br />
JMHO</p>
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		By: Business Guy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/05/22/growing-to-death-like-cancer/#comment-104814</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Business Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2018 05:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[New Leadership.....
The director of the Dept of Commerce would be lucky to be able to spell Commerce - let alone understand what it is and how it works. The entire Dept is the same way.

Butch has done nothing but hand out jobs to his friends - Megan Ronk included. What a joke on both counts. It makes Butch look very petty and very self centered - which he has been.

EDITOR NOTE--We have been getting messages that one of her past duties was on the INVASIVE SPECIES council!  Great credential for the person who is in charge of doling out cash to attract the invasive businesses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Leadership&#8230;..<br />
The director of the Dept of Commerce would be lucky to be able to spell Commerce &#8211; let alone understand what it is and how it works. The entire Dept is the same way.</p>
<p>Butch has done nothing but hand out jobs to his friends &#8211; Megan Ronk included. What a joke on both counts. It makes Butch look very petty and very self centered &#8211; which he has been.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;We have been getting messages that one of her past duties was on the INVASIVE SPECIES council!  Great credential for the person who is in charge of doling out cash to attract the invasive businesses.</p>
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		By: Water Rights		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/05/22/growing-to-death-like-cancer/#comment-104813</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Water Rights]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2018 21:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Expect full on frontal and backdoor attacks on existing water rights.  It&#039;s the most difficult limitation to growth in this valley.  All the people from the TV talking heads to real-estate brokers to builder/developers to environmentalists to the politicos will be selling us on a new better water rights plan soon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expect full on frontal and backdoor attacks on existing water rights.  It&#8217;s the most difficult limitation to growth in this valley.  All the people from the TV talking heads to real-estate brokers to builder/developers to environmentalists to the politicos will be selling us on a new better water rights plan soon.</p>
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