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		By: Tmarie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2018 18:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AMEN!!!!]]></description>
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		By: LD		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/08/16/idaho-growth-defies-logic/#comment-105175</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 23:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I complain about Idaho often. Low wages, the high cost of living, zero fairness in the judicial system. (For another story sometime), but there is a &quot;Good Old Boy&#039;s&quot; club here. And if you are not a part of it, you never stand a chance at a fair hearing in court. 

People, when I complain about Idaho, tend to say things like &quot;To live in Idaho, you have to WANT to live here&quot; or &quot;Nature, and our quality of life is what we are here for.&quot;

Well, I was born here, raised here until the late 90&#039;s when I moved to Seattle. Then I lived all over the country and traveled to several other countries. I came back here to be with family and now I don&#039;t want to be here. 

I have a degree in a professional field, and I feel that my quality of life and my professional career would be far better if I moved to another state. Even in Oregon, the base wage for my field would increase by about 30k a year. Cost of living is about the same. So, I am seriously planning on leaving. And I know that I am not the only one who is planning on doing so. 

Idaho is on a growth spurt. But this is not sustainable, nor will it end with Idaho&#039;s best interests. This will cause heartache and pain. And there will be few working professionals here to help clean up the mess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I complain about Idaho often. Low wages, the high cost of living, zero fairness in the judicial system. (For another story sometime), but there is a &#8220;Good Old Boy&#8217;s&#8221; club here. And if you are not a part of it, you never stand a chance at a fair hearing in court. </p>
<p>People, when I complain about Idaho, tend to say things like &#8220;To live in Idaho, you have to WANT to live here&#8221; or &#8220;Nature, and our quality of life is what we are here for.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I was born here, raised here until the late 90&#8217;s when I moved to Seattle. Then I lived all over the country and traveled to several other countries. I came back here to be with family and now I don&#8217;t want to be here. </p>
<p>I have a degree in a professional field, and I feel that my quality of life and my professional career would be far better if I moved to another state. Even in Oregon, the base wage for my field would increase by about 30k a year. Cost of living is about the same. So, I am seriously planning on leaving. And I know that I am not the only one who is planning on doing so. </p>
<p>Idaho is on a growth spurt. But this is not sustainable, nor will it end with Idaho&#8217;s best interests. This will cause heartache and pain. And there will be few working professionals here to help clean up the mess.</p>
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		By: Growth		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/08/16/idaho-growth-defies-logic/#comment-105174</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Growth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Infinite growth on a finite planet is not desirable because the long term outcome is societal, cultural and economic collapse.
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That “growth” they long for is actually a malignant tumor which only enriches the Oligarchs and their minions.
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It’s rather ironic that our Overlords make us worship the “Star Spangled Banner” when it is a song of secession from government; this in a time where government is becoming ever more non responsive and tyrannical toward its citizens.  We really need to eliminate our current government at all levels and make a fresh start. It’s not fixable, it needs a total demolition Palace of Versailles style.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Infinite growth on a finite planet is not desirable because the long term outcome is societal, cultural and economic collapse.<br />
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That “growth” they long for is actually a malignant tumor which only enriches the Oligarchs and their minions.<br />
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It’s rather ironic that our Overlords make us worship the “Star Spangled Banner” when it is a song of secession from government; this in a time where government is becoming ever more non responsive and tyrannical toward its citizens.  We really need to eliminate our current government at all levels and make a fresh start. It’s not fixable, it needs a total demolition Palace of Versailles style.</p>
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		By: erico49		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/08/16/idaho-growth-defies-logic/#comment-105173</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boise had a great run. But it&#039;s over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boise had a great run. But it&#8217;s over.</p>
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		By: Al		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/08/16/idaho-growth-defies-logic/#comment-105172</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve got a constructive idea for you all. For all of you Growthphobes, pitch in a couple of bucks to buy the domain name: boisemove.org available for only $7.99 on godaddy. Make a free website with wordpress. (your kids can help you). 
Title it &quot;Moving to Boise?&quot;
Then mention all of the REAL details
like the suicide rate and what IdahoNative mentioned. 
Then you can link all negative news stories articles at the bottom.

BTW, this similar topic was in the Guardian back in 2008 with Avimor. Checkout those comments here: https://boiseguardian.com/2008/04/22/merrill-linked-to-avimor-success/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a constructive idea for you all. For all of you Growthphobes, pitch in a couple of bucks to buy the domain name: boisemove.org available for only $7.99 on godaddy. Make a free website with wordpress. (your kids can help you).<br />
Title it &#8220;Moving to Boise?&#8221;<br />
Then mention all of the REAL details<br />
like the suicide rate and what IdahoNative mentioned.<br />
Then you can link all negative news stories articles at the bottom.</p>
<p>BTW, this similar topic was in the Guardian back in 2008 with Avimor. Checkout those comments here: <a href="https://boiseguardian.com/2008/04/22/merrill-linked-to-avimor-success/" rel="ugc">https://boiseguardian.com/2008/04/22/merrill-linked-to-avimor-success/</a></p>
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		By: Trungpa		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/08/16/idaho-growth-defies-logic/#comment-105171</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trungpa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 15:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why are we continuing to grow?  How about those radio ads about moving to Idaho... in other states.  I have been told of stations which play those ads every hour.  Our taxes hard at work.....   Was I the only person who was concerned about the real &quot;product&quot; to be sold when Buy Idaho started those many, many years ago?  

My mother and her family were born, raised and lived all of their lives here... as have I - other than that time I went to Eugene.  I still wonder why I returned since I am not the party of choice in this red state.   

Thanks for your work Dave]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are we continuing to grow?  How about those radio ads about moving to Idaho&#8230; in other states.  I have been told of stations which play those ads every hour.  Our taxes hard at work&#8230;..   Was I the only person who was concerned about the real &#8220;product&#8221; to be sold when Buy Idaho started those many, many years ago?  </p>
<p>My mother and her family were born, raised and lived all of their lives here&#8230; as have I &#8211; other than that time I went to Eugene.  I still wonder why I returned since I am not the party of choice in this red state.   </p>
<p>Thanks for your work Dave</p>
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		By: Growth is a problem		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/08/16/idaho-growth-defies-logic/#comment-105169</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Growth is a problem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 15:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually urbanization increases poverty rate and income inequality. So, no hope for the growth to solve existing problems. Growth only benefits businesses, because they can increase their operations. For a non business owner, and especially for people on fixed income, there is no benefit. More shopping and restaurant choices only make you spend more, i.e. have less money left.

Cities have to remain growth neutral, because growth destroys where we live, trying to increase business profits. In fact the theory of growth states that the goal of growth is increasing rent from property. Yes, the government likes it because they collect more taxes, claiming the taxes will go to solve problems. But growth creates more problems than taxes can solve, because taxes have to be less than 100%.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually urbanization increases poverty rate and income inequality. So, no hope for the growth to solve existing problems. Growth only benefits businesses, because they can increase their operations. For a non business owner, and especially for people on fixed income, there is no benefit. More shopping and restaurant choices only make you spend more, i.e. have less money left.</p>
<p>Cities have to remain growth neutral, because growth destroys where we live, trying to increase business profits. In fact the theory of growth states that the goal of growth is increasing rent from property. Yes, the government likes it because they collect more taxes, claiming the taxes will go to solve problems. But growth creates more problems than taxes can solve, because taxes have to be less than 100%.</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/08/16/idaho-growth-defies-logic/#comment-105167</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 14:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sometimes our inversions are the fault of Californian&#039;s fires! I believe OUR problem in the treasure valley is TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. I don&#039;t believe any of the cities located here have council members from districts? Therefore when the mayor of Boise decides to spend $5 million on a study for free streetcar service in the downtown core there is no REPRESENTATIVE located out State street questioning his spending? Or when the mayor decides to solicit the F35&#039;s at Boi airport no REPRESENTATIVE from the 83709 zip area asking why it would be OK to spend property owners monies to devalue their quality of life while promoting Boise as the most livable city? 

Then secondly the CONFLICT OF INTERESTS. Do the mayor of Boi and council members affiliated with the CCDC decide what is best for the whole of the city or the downtown core. THEIR ACTIONS FAVOR THE CCDC.
You can&#039;t bite the hand that feeds you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes our inversions are the fault of Californian&#8217;s fires! I believe OUR problem in the treasure valley is TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. I don&#8217;t believe any of the cities located here have council members from districts? Therefore when the mayor of Boise decides to spend $5 million on a study for free streetcar service in the downtown core there is no REPRESENTATIVE located out State street questioning his spending? Or when the mayor decides to solicit the F35&#8217;s at Boi airport no REPRESENTATIVE from the 83709 zip area asking why it would be OK to spend property owners monies to devalue their quality of life while promoting Boise as the most livable city? </p>
<p>Then secondly the CONFLICT OF INTERESTS. Do the mayor of Boi and council members affiliated with the CCDC decide what is best for the whole of the city or the downtown core. THEIR ACTIONS FAVOR THE CCDC.<br />
You can&#8217;t bite the hand that feeds you!</p>
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		By: IdahoNative		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/08/16/idaho-growth-defies-logic/#comment-105165</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IdahoNative]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 06:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Idaholc-&quot;Perfectly happy with our stagnant town&quot;? So you are okay with:

* Education: 48th in the nation
* School Spending: 49th in the nation
* HS Graduation Rate: 40th
* Benchmark formering collage and career readiness: 4/5 teens not meeting benchmark; only 20th are ready for college or career

* Healthcare access: 39th
* Adult wellness: 50th
* Child wellness: 45th
* Health insurance enrollment:  40th

* Weekly Wages: 50%
* Poverty: 36th
* Household income: 36th
* Public Transit: 45th

 I was born and raised here - but we cannot accept being near the bottom in critical areas of quality of life if we want our children to be successful.  Growth is not not a black and white issue. In order to correct some of these issues, we need &quot;smart growth&quot; to create a tax base to improve education, healthcare, and wages.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idaholc-&#8220;Perfectly happy with our stagnant town&#8221;? So you are okay with:</p>
<p>* Education: 48th in the nation<br />
* School Spending: 49th in the nation<br />
* HS Graduation Rate: 40th<br />
* Benchmark formering collage and career readiness: 4/5 teens not meeting benchmark; only 20th are ready for college or career</p>
<p>* Healthcare access: 39th<br />
* Adult wellness: 50th<br />
* Child wellness: 45th<br />
* Health insurance enrollment:  40th</p>
<p>* Weekly Wages: 50%<br />
* Poverty: 36th<br />
* Household income: 36th<br />
* Public Transit: 45th</p>
<p> I was born and raised here &#8211; but we cannot accept being near the bottom in critical areas of quality of life if we want our children to be successful.  Growth is not not a black and white issue. In order to correct some of these issues, we need &#8220;smart growth&#8221; to create a tax base to improve education, healthcare, and wages.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/08/16/idaho-growth-defies-logic/#comment-105162</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2018 22:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well there&#039;s some sunshine. 

Why?  
Pretty simple. 
In your own words Editor, &quot;cannot think of anywhere else I want to live&quot;

When you can come up with a good alternative- Boise won&#039;t continue to grow. 

BTW, we have too many cops though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there&#8217;s some sunshine. </p>
<p>Why?<br />
Pretty simple.<br />
In your own words Editor, &#8220;cannot think of anywhere else I want to live&#8221;</p>
<p>When you can come up with a good alternative- Boise won&#8217;t continue to grow. </p>
<p>BTW, we have too many cops though.</p>
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