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		By: zdv		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/09/21/15175/#comment-105388</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2018 03:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is BSD&#039;s position on this effort:

http://data-points-boise-schools.blogspot.com/2018/09/boise-districts-data-informed-marketing.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is BSD&#8217;s position on this effort:</p>
<p><a href="http://data-points-boise-schools.blogspot.com/2018/09/boise-districts-data-informed-marketing.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://data-points-boise-schools.blogspot.com/2018/09/boise-districts-data-informed-marketing.html</a></p>
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		By: Public school marketing		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/09/21/15175/#comment-105361</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Public school marketing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2018 00:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is hard to see how with continued expansion of charter schools that public schools will improve.  Charter schools are public schools, but with screening.  Correct?

What has always been needed is a referendum on how many children a family can put into the free public/charter schools system without having to pay for some extra services.  (Not football, etc., just overall overload of costs, including free lunch.)

It is suspicious that it kills the budget by contracting at the end of the fiscal year.  Public secondary and elementary schools don&#039;t need to advertise.  Parents want to send their kids to schools.  Bad decision BSD.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is hard to see how with continued expansion of charter schools that public schools will improve.  Charter schools are public schools, but with screening.  Correct?</p>
<p>What has always been needed is a referendum on how many children a family can put into the free public/charter schools system without having to pay for some extra services.  (Not football, etc., just overall overload of costs, including free lunch.)</p>
<p>It is suspicious that it kills the budget by contracting at the end of the fiscal year.  Public secondary and elementary schools don&#8217;t need to advertise.  Parents want to send their kids to schools.  Bad decision BSD.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/09/21/15175/#comment-105358</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2018 00:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yossa, 
Your description of ONE of the Fed&#039;s monetary tools to inject money into the economy only highlights your own critical thinking shortfalls. 
Sorry Yo, you&#039;re missing some info.  Give that explanation to a Finance Prof and see what you get for a grade... oh wait, you will just blame the &#039;leftist agenda&#039; for your grade... never mind. 
 
Trust me, I would not ask you to explain banking or the economy- to anyone- especially not your dear neighbor girl. 
 
If this were a test though, you would fail.  Oh, more minutiae... never mind.  Pretty complicated stuff to use as an example of our public education system.

Finland?  Ha!    

Off topic????? 
Not really. It is an example of how those critical of our public education system do not have solid across-the- board evidence that the &#039;choice model&#039; is better.  

Anecdotes of Susie not aware of &quot;facts&quot;? I doubt that; but, whatever.  

So make a social experiment? 
Great, let the rich get richer via exclusive education and the poor will continue to hang out with Yossarian for them to talk about monetary policy.  

But, Yossa, I leave on your own words, &quot;I still believe in a public funded education&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yossa,<br />
Your description of ONE of the Fed&#8217;s monetary tools to inject money into the economy only highlights your own critical thinking shortfalls.<br />
Sorry Yo, you&#8217;re missing some info.  Give that explanation to a Finance Prof and see what you get for a grade&#8230; oh wait, you will just blame the &#8216;leftist agenda&#8217; for your grade&#8230; never mind. </p>
<p>Trust me, I would not ask you to explain banking or the economy- to anyone- especially not your dear neighbor girl. </p>
<p>If this were a test though, you would fail.  Oh, more minutiae&#8230; never mind.  Pretty complicated stuff to use as an example of our public education system.</p>
<p>Finland?  Ha!    </p>
<p>Off topic?????<br />
Not really. It is an example of how those critical of our public education system do not have solid across-the- board evidence that the &#8216;choice model&#8217; is better.  </p>
<p>Anecdotes of Susie not aware of &#8220;facts&#8221;? I doubt that; but, whatever.  </p>
<p>So make a social experiment?<br />
Great, let the rich get richer via exclusive education and the poor will continue to hang out with Yossarian for them to talk about monetary policy.  </p>
<p>But, Yossa, I leave on your own words, &#8220;I still believe in a public funded education&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Yossarian_22		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/09/21/15175/#comment-105356</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2018 17:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Easter

For 20 years I was steeped in Leftist culture and have read all the usual promotions of how our public education is the epitome of &quot;democracy.&quot; Everything from Noam Chomsky (who hated his public school education BTW) to any current blather from Dem education promoters. 

In the abstract, I actually still believe in a public funded education, but now I can see that cultural agendas serve along with social promotion gimmicks to dumb down kids and deliver them to our society with predetermined concepts that America needs to be anti-sovereign and part of some World Society without borders and constitutions that protect national interests. It&#039;s all very John Lennon Imagine crap. Except, that what they are selling isn&#039;t world Love through equality, but that equality will be achieved by making everyone poor (except for that 1% of know-it-alls that make the rules = Lenin).

I ask people, adults mind you, that don&#039;t even know how money enters the economy. They all think the Govt prints it and injects it. That can happen via bonds sold to private entities, but MOST money enters every time a private loan is made at a bank. It&#039;s printed out of thin air and loaned to borrowers. That&#039;s called principal. Banks are allowed to loan $10 for every $1 they have on deposit. This is not taught to anyone. It&#039;s the most important aspect of economies and no one knows it. 

My next door neighbor is a top score student in high school. She is not aware of most facts because they don&#039;t teach them any. They teach for tests steeped in minutiae. World history is not even a serious subject anymore. With everything that is going on, where are the debates and facts? It&#039;s all being handled by Tech Giants via social media. What a joke. 

Clancy- if I request to &quot;watch a class&quot; in history or American Govt, would that be approved? In France, all parents are barred from any intervention in their kids&#039; school activities. Are we next? 

Finland is the top dog in education. They actually teach critical skills there. They rarely test. But if you point them out to today&#039;s progressives, you get a lecture about how &quot;white and racist&quot; Finland is. Which is funny because Finland used to be a go-to example for leftists for how America should follow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easter</p>
<p>For 20 years I was steeped in Leftist culture and have read all the usual promotions of how our public education is the epitome of &#8220;democracy.&#8221; Everything from Noam Chomsky (who hated his public school education BTW) to any current blather from Dem education promoters. </p>
<p>In the abstract, I actually still believe in a public funded education, but now I can see that cultural agendas serve along with social promotion gimmicks to dumb down kids and deliver them to our society with predetermined concepts that America needs to be anti-sovereign and part of some World Society without borders and constitutions that protect national interests. It&#8217;s all very John Lennon Imagine crap. Except, that what they are selling isn&#8217;t world Love through equality, but that equality will be achieved by making everyone poor (except for that 1% of know-it-alls that make the rules = Lenin).</p>
<p>I ask people, adults mind you, that don&#8217;t even know how money enters the economy. They all think the Govt prints it and injects it. That can happen via bonds sold to private entities, but MOST money enters every time a private loan is made at a bank. It&#8217;s printed out of thin air and loaned to borrowers. That&#8217;s called principal. Banks are allowed to loan $10 for every $1 they have on deposit. This is not taught to anyone. It&#8217;s the most important aspect of economies and no one knows it. </p>
<p>My next door neighbor is a top score student in high school. She is not aware of most facts because they don&#8217;t teach them any. They teach for tests steeped in minutiae. World history is not even a serious subject anymore. With everything that is going on, where are the debates and facts? It&#8217;s all being handled by Tech Giants via social media. What a joke. </p>
<p>Clancy- if I request to &#8220;watch a class&#8221; in history or American Govt, would that be approved? In France, all parents are barred from any intervention in their kids&#8217; school activities. Are we next? </p>
<p>Finland is the top dog in education. They actually teach critical skills there. They rarely test. But if you point them out to today&#8217;s progressives, you get a lecture about how &#8220;white and racist&#8221; Finland is. Which is funny because Finland used to be a go-to example for leftists for how America should follow.</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/09/21/15175/#comment-105350</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 19:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Such distaste for public education. I encourage all of you to go watch a class or interview a local teacher.  You will find people that genuinely care about the kids and are passionate about their jobs.  I doubt you will walk away feeling that teachers are &quot;indoctrinating the kids with a commie agenda&quot;.

Boise Schools generally do a great job educating the students and giving a unique education to each of them.  I have two sons at each end of the spectrum.  One is taking AP classes as a sophomore while the other is learning life skills in hopes of living on his own someday.  The advanced classes are impressive, but more so is my other son learning life and job skills that are not often taught at the higher levels.

What this article does not talk about is how the urbanization of Boise is causing declining populations at some schools while others are busting at the seams.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such distaste for public education. I encourage all of you to go watch a class or interview a local teacher.  You will find people that genuinely care about the kids and are passionate about their jobs.  I doubt you will walk away feeling that teachers are &#8220;indoctrinating the kids with a commie agenda&#8221;.</p>
<p>Boise Schools generally do a great job educating the students and giving a unique education to each of them.  I have two sons at each end of the spectrum.  One is taking AP classes as a sophomore while the other is learning life skills in hopes of living on his own someday.  The advanced classes are impressive, but more so is my other son learning life and job skills that are not often taught at the higher levels.</p>
<p>What this article does not talk about is how the urbanization of Boise is causing declining populations at some schools while others are busting at the seams.</p>
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		By: Commies		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/09/21/15175/#comment-105349</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 19:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eastie, because of public schools intruding into the family with the commie agenda the parents no longer have authority over their children.  If a parent dare discipline their child the school and CPS authorities will swoop in and empower the child to disobey the parent.  Brought to you by commie liberals wanting to destroy the American family unit.  They have been successful.  Today&#039;s parents are also a product of the same corrupted system of conditioning.  They don&#039;t bother to be, and don&#039;t want to be, what you call &quot;good parents&quot; because they were taught not to be and threatened with criminal punishment if they do dare step up.

&quot;The government will take care of you.&quot;  If some of you think commie is the wrong label, think again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eastie, because of public schools intruding into the family with the commie agenda the parents no longer have authority over their children.  If a parent dare discipline their child the school and CPS authorities will swoop in and empower the child to disobey the parent.  Brought to you by commie liberals wanting to destroy the American family unit.  They have been successful.  Today&#8217;s parents are also a product of the same corrupted system of conditioning.  They don&#8217;t bother to be, and don&#8217;t want to be, what you call &#8220;good parents&#8221; because they were taught not to be and threatened with criminal punishment if they do dare step up.</p>
<p>&#8220;The government will take care of you.&#8221;  If some of you think commie is the wrong label, think again.</p>
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		By: Brainwashing		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/09/21/15175/#comment-105348</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 19:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If schools were actually “educating” students, I wouldn’t feel so bad about my money going to the schools. Sadly, todays schooling is not about education.

Schools are creating corporate robots who will never question their superiors, no matter how atrocious the crimes they experience. They are taught to be obedient to authority, and to memorize and regurgitate information. Schools in other countries have kids in 5th grade who can run circles around our high school graduates. The “history” taught in our schools is outright fiction.

Personally, I found school to be BORING and more akin to a PRISON than a institution of learning, and todays schools are prisons, complete with surveillance systems, security fences and guards.

What I find totally insulting is the endless and obvious fake “false flag” school mass shootings rolled out by the corporate media, while simultaneously putting up NO GUN signs everywhere to keep those who might defend against mass shootings out. Is there any politician out there who has ever explained why they think a criminal would walk up to a school with a gun and see the NO GUN sign and decide they must obey the sign and leave.

How long before endless “common sense gun regulations” to “save the children” disarm everyone in America so the sociopaths can begin the next Holocause with their militarized police made up of the product of school brainwashing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If schools were actually “educating” students, I wouldn’t feel so bad about my money going to the schools. Sadly, todays schooling is not about education.</p>
<p>Schools are creating corporate robots who will never question their superiors, no matter how atrocious the crimes they experience. They are taught to be obedient to authority, and to memorize and regurgitate information. Schools in other countries have kids in 5th grade who can run circles around our high school graduates. The “history” taught in our schools is outright fiction.</p>
<p>Personally, I found school to be BORING and more akin to a PRISON than a institution of learning, and todays schools are prisons, complete with surveillance systems, security fences and guards.</p>
<p>What I find totally insulting is the endless and obvious fake “false flag” school mass shootings rolled out by the corporate media, while simultaneously putting up NO GUN signs everywhere to keep those who might defend against mass shootings out. Is there any politician out there who has ever explained why they think a criminal would walk up to a school with a gun and see the NO GUN sign and decide they must obey the sign and leave.</p>
<p>How long before endless “common sense gun regulations” to “save the children” disarm everyone in America so the sociopaths can begin the next Holocause with their militarized police made up of the product of school brainwashing.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 16:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yossarian, you are coming from a position that schools suck.   
How about the more accurate position that too many parents suck?   

Is it REALLY the individual teacher&#039;s  responsibility, or are they simply one cog in the wheel to facilitate learning? 

Teachers have ZERO responsibility to get a student to do homework.  
They have ZERO responsibility over whether that student has decent sleep.  
They have ZERO responsibility over whether that student is focused on the subject or the boy/girl sitting next to them.  
And that list goes on and on- ALL which falls on the responsibility of parents. 

Too many parents are failing.   

Above comments want schools to &#039;compete for students&#039;- This is EXACTLY what they are planning to due, to the tune of $170,000. It is unfortunate they find it necessary.  

There is zero evidence &#039;School Choice&#039; provides an equal improvement for ALL children.  See Michigan and Devos as the failing model https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2018/03/12/betsy-devos-michigan-minutes/32857789/

School Choice only dilutes the public resources and makes a difficult goal even more difficult.  

As for any kind of &#039;liberal agenda&#039;-  yeah right,  A, B, C, reading phonics, and the scientific method are so liberal. That rubbish rhetoric that does nothing to advance the goals of good education for children. 

The concept of PUBLIC schools is unique to creating democracy in America.  
&quot;Education ... beyond all other devices of human origin, is the great equalizer of the conditions of men—the balance-wheel of the social machinery.” -Horace Mann

To argue against great, EQUAL, public education is simply arguing in favor of Marxism with a proletariat and bourgeoisie class of people.  THAT is the choice!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yossarian, you are coming from a position that schools suck.<br />
How about the more accurate position that too many parents suck?   </p>
<p>Is it REALLY the individual teacher&#8217;s  responsibility, or are they simply one cog in the wheel to facilitate learning? </p>
<p>Teachers have ZERO responsibility to get a student to do homework.<br />
They have ZERO responsibility over whether that student has decent sleep.<br />
They have ZERO responsibility over whether that student is focused on the subject or the boy/girl sitting next to them.<br />
And that list goes on and on- ALL which falls on the responsibility of parents. </p>
<p>Too many parents are failing.   </p>
<p>Above comments want schools to &#8216;compete for students&#8217;- This is EXACTLY what they are planning to due, to the tune of $170,000. It is unfortunate they find it necessary.  </p>
<p>There is zero evidence &#8216;School Choice&#8217; provides an equal improvement for ALL children.  See Michigan and Devos as the failing model <a href="https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2018/03/12/betsy-devos-michigan-minutes/32857789/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2018/03/12/betsy-devos-michigan-minutes/32857789/</a></p>
<p>School Choice only dilutes the public resources and makes a difficult goal even more difficult.  </p>
<p>As for any kind of &#8216;liberal agenda&#8217;-  yeah right,  A, B, C, reading phonics, and the scientific method are so liberal. That rubbish rhetoric that does nothing to advance the goals of good education for children. </p>
<p>The concept of PUBLIC schools is unique to creating democracy in America.<br />
&#8220;Education &#8230; beyond all other devices of human origin, is the great equalizer of the conditions of men—the balance-wheel of the social machinery.” -Horace Mann</p>
<p>To argue against great, EQUAL, public education is simply arguing in favor of Marxism with a proletariat and bourgeoisie class of people.  THAT is the choice!</p>
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		By: Yossarian_22		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/09/21/15175/#comment-105344</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is totally predictable. Instead of actually evaluating why parents are moving their kids to private options, the Commissars are assuming that they need better marketing. I agree with most reasons given in above posts as to why public schools suck beans. There is plenty of evidence that you can see, feel and hear for yourself that proves the failure of public schools. Further, they have doubled down with all the social control crap to drive Americans values into a nanny state atmosphere. It has been boiled frog the whole way. I applaud the Guardian for spotlighting this travesty. Keep it up. 

BTW, the last time I was canvased for the last school bond increase, I gave the promoter a full piece of my mind about school failures. The bond passed anyway, but people are voting with their feet. GoodO for them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is totally predictable. Instead of actually evaluating why parents are moving their kids to private options, the Commissars are assuming that they need better marketing. I agree with most reasons given in above posts as to why public schools suck beans. There is plenty of evidence that you can see, feel and hear for yourself that proves the failure of public schools. Further, they have doubled down with all the social control crap to drive Americans values into a nanny state atmosphere. It has been boiled frog the whole way. I applaud the Guardian for spotlighting this travesty. Keep it up. </p>
<p>BTW, the last time I was canvased for the last school bond increase, I gave the promoter a full piece of my mind about school failures. The bond passed anyway, but people are voting with their feet. GoodO for them.</p>
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		By: Commies		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Public School is terribly broken because they take our money by force.  Therefore no motivation to produce a quality product.  We need to make them compete for funding like every other industry producing a quality product.  A good start would be to mandate any and all school related elections to only the one big election day in November and force whatever their issue is to be included on the only ballot that day (end stealth elections).

Lots of love from me to the lonely quality teachers who care so much, but look how the schools treat them.  How dare they disrupt the cash cow.

https://idahonews.com/news/nation-world/teacher-says-she-was-fired-for-giving-zeroes-to-students-who-didnt-turn-in-their-work-09-25-2018-134627104]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public School is terribly broken because they take our money by force.  Therefore no motivation to produce a quality product.  We need to make them compete for funding like every other industry producing a quality product.  A good start would be to mandate any and all school related elections to only the one big election day in November and force whatever their issue is to be included on the only ballot that day (end stealth elections).</p>
<p>Lots of love from me to the lonely quality teachers who care so much, but look how the schools treat them.  How dare they disrupt the cash cow.</p>
<p><a href="https://idahonews.com/news/nation-world/teacher-says-she-was-fired-for-giving-zeroes-to-students-who-didnt-turn-in-their-work-09-25-2018-134627104" rel="nofollow ugc">https://idahonews.com/news/nation-world/teacher-says-she-was-fired-for-giving-zeroes-to-students-who-didnt-turn-in-their-work-09-25-2018-134627104</a></p>
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