It is unfortunate so many people operate from a point of fear.
How about this fear? It might be you someday, or your son, or grandchild.

It’s a pretty complicated topic. To use snipets from Talk Radio is extremely shallow ___.

The exact statement of “Disability/Medicare” is misleading.
As if “those people” already have a perfect solution: the other disabled working, and those unlucky poor working people, and those BUMS who won’t work– cause CN won’t hire them-

— It’s just ridiculous fear.
Screw over 10,000 working poor just to prevent that one crafty bum from ‘working the system’ to get a free physical exam, prevent pneumonia, or get some mental counseling.
Good plan Idaho GOP!

Some actual decent content:
“Disabled people who are approved for Social Security disability insurance (SSDI) benefits will receive Medicare, and those who are approved for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) will receive Medicaid.
However, SSDI recipients aren’t eligible to receive Medicare benefits until two years AFTER their date of entitlement. There is no waiting period for SSI recipients to receive Medicaid.”

TWO Years for Medicare?
In the meantime? Chronic illness just gets worse. If one survives the two years it will certainly cost more to treat the problem(s). Good cost analysis. Heck, they might die and think of the money the state will save.

Here you go Escapee, please highlight for us where Medicaid is “better”:
https://healthandwelfare.idaho.gov/Portals/0/Medical/MedicaidCHIP/Idaho%20Health%20Plan%20English.pdf

Seems like we voted in term limits a few years back but… the legislature decide that there are many reasons not to have them….

Just saying

EDITOR NOTE–Regardless of the vote, the slots are still unconstitutional unless the Supremes somehow rule otherwise. The legislature is the only place a constitutional amendment can originate and then the people vote statewide.

The point is– the hypocrisy of some of those using that socialized healthcare system. “It’s okay for me, but not other deserving people.” It has nothing to do with colors or partisanship.

Boise County schools need to be saved as much as horse racing.

Disability and SSI are not on this topic.

Yes, you have listed the exact income levels. Good job.Those amounts change each year as well. And those are cliff thresholds. For example, If I have $15,000 income I can’t participate in the insurance exchange to get affordable (??) coverage.

$15,900- I’m in like Flynn.
$14,000? Sorry no insurance!
Does that make sense to anyone?
Or shall we allow that person to use Medicaid while necessary?

Stating “Prop 2 increases tax costs” is a very loaded (bias scare tactic) statement.
IF we spend $1,000 in preventative care to save $10,000 in emergency care next year, does that increase tax costs?
Yet supposed fiscal conservatives will ignore the $1,000 cost today knowing the $10,000 cost will occur next year? Apparently Idaho leadership says ‘this broken system is okay’ despite all the counties supporting the expansion.
https://www.publicnewsservice.org/2015-10-01/health-issues/idaho-counties-support-medicaid-expansion/a48380-1

Let’s think long-term for money and think with empathy to do the the right thin for our real neighbors and fellow Idahoans.

Increasing costs to cover the essentials? AGAIN, ROI…
Major studies say Idaho will save dollars. In simple terms, reducing county and state taxes to be replaced by federal dollars to reduce overall costs with better, more efficient spending- just like vaccines.

“paying for someone else to have better insurance (MEDICAID) than you probably do”.

Wow! When you truly think Medicaid is better health care than your private policy, you either have terrible insurance (or none) or lack a grasp of the obvious. – or listen to FOX too much.

Since CN is using terms such as “socialized health care” it is apparently a lack of the obvious.

“Socialized health care”- much more of political term than any reality. Although one of our true socialized health care is the VA Hospital. 100% owned and funded by the govt. Benefactors do not pay any direct relationship to the service they receive and the sky is the limit for the services and care provided.
And yet look at the number of veterans (including redneck Trump supporters) running to that system of socialized health care. Some are dying there, but it doesn’t stop the line. They can’t get there fast enough!

Thanks editor for leniency on the space used. 😉

First, if someone is disabled to the point where they cannot work then Social Security Disability is available to them.

Prop 2 increases tax costs to cover people up to 133% (up from 100%) of the federal poverty level. Here’s the chart based on number of people in a household (Easterner quoted 100% dollars):
1 $15,800
2 $21,307
3 $26,813
4 $32,319

It also increases costs for additional coverage to cover what a lot of private insurance doesn’t cover. So you are paying for someone else to have better insurance than you probably do. Look up “10 Essential Benefits”.

Numbers point to tax money paying for an increase of 5% to 10% (depending who you believe) of the population to be on socialized health care – that the rest of us pay for. Not for preventive medicine – which has proven ROI so should be funded – but far above and beyond.

Easterner is correct on one item – do your research. Media is biased.