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		By: Frank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2018 22:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When elected public servants purchase properties THAT property comes off of the property TAX ROLE. 
I believe most residents would have preferred to include the substation in the LOW TO NO Income housing property under construction. OR the old fire training center property on the greenbelt. Both are owned by the public and a stones throw to the OVERPRICED BAR.   THIS KINDA DECISION FROM ELECTED PUBLIC SERVANTS IS JUST WRONG.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When elected public servants purchase properties THAT property comes off of the property TAX ROLE.<br />
I believe most residents would have preferred to include the substation in the LOW TO NO Income housing property under construction. OR the old fire training center property on the greenbelt. Both are owned by the public and a stones throw to the OVERPRICED BAR.   THIS KINDA DECISION FROM ELECTED PUBLIC SERVANTS IS JUST WRONG.</p>
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		By: Karen		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/10/18/boise-coppers-to-purchase-gay-bar/#comment-105488</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like &quot;Buy it&#039;s&quot; comment about the city buying the Torch - it would also solve the problem of the sexy bill boards. (sic) :-) I too would like to see what the Council woman would say about those that would be displaced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like &#8220;Buy it&#8217;s&#8221; comment about the city buying the Torch &#8211; it would also solve the problem of the sexy bill boards. (sic) 🙂 I too would like to see what the Council woman would say about those that would be displaced.</p>
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		By: Yossarian_22		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/10/18/boise-coppers-to-purchase-gay-bar/#comment-105475</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yossarian_22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2018 21:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Many, many questions here. I think A Non E Moose raises the best. And the druggie probs are blighting parts of the city, too. That&#039;s a comprehensive level issue that LE struggles with until a real solution is pursued. Growing a city faster than it should grow only worsens the druggie problem. I&#039;ve seen hypodermics pop up too much around Vista Ave. It&#039;s not San Fran yet, but it needs to stop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many, many questions here. I think A Non E Moose raises the best. And the druggie probs are blighting parts of the city, too. That&#8217;s a comprehensive level issue that LE struggles with until a real solution is pursued. Growing a city faster than it should grow only worsens the druggie problem. I&#8217;ve seen hypodermics pop up too much around Vista Ave. It&#8217;s not San Fran yet, but it needs to stop.</p>
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		By: Homeless Druggie Crime		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Homeless Druggie Crime]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2018 02:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, regular violence on the greenbelt near where they corral the homeless per policy.  Rare to see homeless by city hall though.

https://idahonews.com/news/local/breaking-shooting-reported-on-greenbelt-suspect-in-custody]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, regular violence on the greenbelt near where they corral the homeless per policy.  Rare to see homeless by city hall though.</p>
<p><a href="https://idahonews.com/news/local/breaking-shooting-reported-on-greenbelt-suspect-in-custody" rel="nofollow ugc">https://idahonews.com/news/local/breaking-shooting-reported-on-greenbelt-suspect-in-custody</a></p>
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		By: A. Non E. Moose		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/10/18/boise-coppers-to-purchase-gay-bar/#comment-105463</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A. Non E. Moose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well let&#039;s see now. City buys building that they want the police dept. to use as a substation. Check.

Police Chief says it will be used for bicycle patrols, etc. Check.

Owner agrees to sell for apparently more than market value. Check. Somewhat okay as above value has some advantages e.g. keeping other buyers out, etc. 

City agrees to lease back the building to current occupant. Check. Current occupant is Lucky Dog Tavern - a bar. Bars require a Liquor License issued by the State Police. Plus beer and wine licenses issued by Boise City. A Boise City Liquor license is currently for sale at $185,000, but can be leased out for $1500-$1800/month. 

According to a source, the Boise Police Association had a clubhouse next to the BPD gun range in Military Reserve Park. Both are now closed. The clubhouse used to offer liquor, etc. for its members.

Did the City also acquire the liquor license and will the BPD association use it for their social gatherings? Not known. Hmmmm.

What will become of the monies from said lease? How much is the lease for? How will this lease benefit the City. Why can&#039;t we have those questions answered? Weird!

Honestly, I have never seen the bicycle patrol except during special events and lately I have not seen the motorcycle officers on patrol either. That goes for the state and the county as well. Hmmm!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well let&#8217;s see now. City buys building that they want the police dept. to use as a substation. Check.</p>
<p>Police Chief says it will be used for bicycle patrols, etc. Check.</p>
<p>Owner agrees to sell for apparently more than market value. Check. Somewhat okay as above value has some advantages e.g. keeping other buyers out, etc. </p>
<p>City agrees to lease back the building to current occupant. Check. Current occupant is Lucky Dog Tavern &#8211; a bar. Bars require a Liquor License issued by the State Police. Plus beer and wine licenses issued by Boise City. A Boise City Liquor license is currently for sale at $185,000, but can be leased out for $1500-$1800/month. </p>
<p>According to a source, the Boise Police Association had a clubhouse next to the BPD gun range in Military Reserve Park. Both are now closed. The clubhouse used to offer liquor, etc. for its members.</p>
<p>Did the City also acquire the liquor license and will the BPD association use it for their social gatherings? Not known. Hmmmm.</p>
<p>What will become of the monies from said lease? How much is the lease for? How will this lease benefit the City. Why can&#8217;t we have those questions answered? Weird!</p>
<p>Honestly, I have never seen the bicycle patrol except during special events and lately I have not seen the motorcycle officers on patrol either. That goes for the state and the county as well. Hmmm!</p>
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		By: Buy the Torch!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buy the Torch!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2018 23:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would love to see what the councilwomen would say if they were buying the Torch building.

&quot;The poor under-served that attend there need to know that (I) we will feel there pain at their loss of this valuable resource&quot; ???!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to see what the councilwomen would say if they were buying the Torch building.</p>
<p>&#8220;The poor under-served that attend there need to know that (I) we will feel there pain at their loss of this valuable resource&#8221; ???!!!!</p>
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		By: HomelessDruggieCrime		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HomelessDruggieCrime]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2018 20:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having enjoyed the big parks and greenbelt trails at the river and foothills for 30 years, I can tell you Bieter and his police department are intentionally growing a druggie homeless crime problem.  F-U-Mayor Dave.  You are destroying my fair city to please your liberal idiot friends.  Please go away soon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having enjoyed the big parks and greenbelt trails at the river and foothills for 30 years, I can tell you Bieter and his police department are intentionally growing a druggie homeless crime problem.  F-U-Mayor Dave.  You are destroying my fair city to please your liberal idiot friends.  Please go away soon.</p>
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		By: Dale Gribble		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dale Gribble]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2018 20:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why are there so many substations on Vista? Three??

EDITOR NOTE--Not sure there are any.  There have been two in the past and there may be a &quot;room&quot; in the back of the old motel at Canal and Vista with all the registered sex offenders.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are there so many substations on Vista? Three??</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Not sure there are any.  There have been two in the past and there may be a &#8220;room&#8221; in the back of the old motel at Canal and Vista with all the registered sex offenders.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2018 17:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A lot of ridiculousness going on here. 

First the city did not &quot;buy a &#039;gay bar&#039;&quot;  They bought a building!   
The building happens to have a bar. It happens to be a gay bar.   Big deal. 

And for the Council to have any kind of special consideration of the tenants is ridiculous.  
If the building fits city needs (easy to argue AGAINST the whole deal) then buy it.  Gay bar, biker bar, or cowboy bar, or gay-cowboy bar, or a bikini bar.  

THAT mentality by the Councilwoman is what irritates the crap out of people- &quot;special rights&quot;. 
No. There does not need to be special consideration here.  The owners have all the rights to go elsewhere.

&quot;Marginalized&quot;?? It&#039;s demeaning to any type of people to be referred to as marginalized. It seems the city is the one &#039;marginalizing&#039; that group in this case. As if somehow they are incapable of finding another &#039;gathering place&#039;.

This effort seems to be the replacement for the 1015 C Capitol substation -closed in February - where the bike cops were stationed.  Where have they been operating out of, since then? 
 
FLASHBACK: 
Jan 4, 2016. Guardian NY Resolution:
“–All bicyclists wearing dark clothing at night with no lights on a bike shall serve mandatory prison sentence of 10 years.”  


They still wear all black.  
Maybe they&#039;ll wear rainbow uniforms from this new location and then we can all continue to &quot;marginalize&quot; cops. 

SMH]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of ridiculousness going on here. </p>
<p>First the city did not &#8220;buy a &#8216;gay bar'&#8221;  They bought a building!<br />
The building happens to have a bar. It happens to be a gay bar.   Big deal. </p>
<p>And for the Council to have any kind of special consideration of the tenants is ridiculous.<br />
If the building fits city needs (easy to argue AGAINST the whole deal) then buy it.  Gay bar, biker bar, or cowboy bar, or gay-cowboy bar, or a bikini bar.  </p>
<p>THAT mentality by the Councilwoman is what irritates the crap out of people- &#8220;special rights&#8221;.<br />
No. There does not need to be special consideration here.  The owners have all the rights to go elsewhere.</p>
<p>&#8220;Marginalized&#8221;?? It&#8217;s demeaning to any type of people to be referred to as marginalized. It seems the city is the one &#8216;marginalizing&#8217; that group in this case. As if somehow they are incapable of finding another &#8216;gathering place&#8217;.</p>
<p>This effort seems to be the replacement for the 1015 C Capitol substation -closed in February &#8211; where the bike cops were stationed.  Where have they been operating out of, since then? </p>
<p>FLASHBACK:<br />
Jan 4, 2016. Guardian NY Resolution:<br />
“–All bicyclists wearing dark clothing at night with no lights on a bike shall serve mandatory prison sentence of 10 years.”  </p>
<p>They still wear all black.<br />
Maybe they&#8217;ll wear rainbow uniforms from this new location and then we can all continue to &#8220;marginalize&#8221; cops. </p>
<p>SMH</p>
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		By: rabula		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rabula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2018 04:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GA Jones: I wondered the same thing. 

Maybe they&#039;re building in costs of renovation by a fancy out-of-state architect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GA Jones: I wondered the same thing. </p>
<p>Maybe they&#8217;re building in costs of renovation by a fancy out-of-state architect.</p>
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