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		By: G A Jones		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/10/23/secret-deal-prompts-call-for-probe/#comment-105486</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G A Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 22:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[EH-
As a resident of the North End it&#039;s pretty irritating to be referred to as Bieter&#039;s &quot;voter base&quot;. We have an active and vocal community because we are determined to defend it. NE residents have long been civic activists in helping protect historical buildings and homes all across the city. Did you march to City Hall to defeat CVS when they slithered by PDS to tear down affordable housing and build a mega-drugstore? Stand up to preserve the Cabin? Attend, and comment at, city council meetings, community forums or PDS hearings? 
Thats what it takes, folks. Its not a D or an R. Lets get organized and stop this obscene violation of due process now playing out at Military Reserve. Start with the council members who were in attendance on 10/18 and 10/23. Write, call, visit.
Not my neighborhood, but stopping this pervasive back room dealing is definitely my, and every resident&#039;s business!

EDITOR NOTE--Well said!  Unfortunately, &quot;Northender&quot; refers to a cultural icon north of the river in Boise, just like &quot;Bench Dwellers&quot; brings to mind a much different stereotype.  We would certainly favor turning down the volume and having more groups join forces to be heard and have influence at City Hall.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EH-<br />
As a resident of the North End it&#8217;s pretty irritating to be referred to as Bieter&#8217;s &#8220;voter base&#8221;. We have an active and vocal community because we are determined to defend it. NE residents have long been civic activists in helping protect historical buildings and homes all across the city. Did you march to City Hall to defeat CVS when they slithered by PDS to tear down affordable housing and build a mega-drugstore? Stand up to preserve the Cabin? Attend, and comment at, city council meetings, community forums or PDS hearings?<br />
Thats what it takes, folks. Its not a D or an R. Lets get organized and stop this obscene violation of due process now playing out at Military Reserve. Start with the council members who were in attendance on 10/18 and 10/23. Write, call, visit.<br />
Not my neighborhood, but stopping this pervasive back room dealing is definitely my, and every resident&#8217;s business!</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Well said!  Unfortunately, &#8220;Northender&#8221; refers to a cultural icon north of the river in Boise, just like &#8220;Bench Dwellers&#8221; brings to mind a much different stereotype.  We would certainly favor turning down the volume and having more groups join forces to be heard and have influence at City Hall.</p>
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		By: Gary Earl Richardson		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/10/23/secret-deal-prompts-call-for-probe/#comment-105485</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Earl Richardson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 22:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Ada County Prosecutor has handed off the Open Meeting Law violation investigation to the Meridian Police. If a county prosecutor feels there may be a conflict of interest at the local level, the case may be handed off to the Idaho Attorney General, as happened in the recent ACHD matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ada County Prosecutor has handed off the Open Meeting Law violation investigation to the Meridian Police. If a county prosecutor feels there may be a conflict of interest at the local level, the case may be handed off to the Idaho Attorney General, as happened in the recent ACHD matter.</p>
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		By: Eamonn Harter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eamonn Harter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 21:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If Team Dave and the city council don&#039;t get their acts together and respect the people of Boise, I say it&#039;s time for a petition drive for recall.  I think even the threat of a recall would instill some discipline into Team Dave.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Team Dave and the city council don&#8217;t get their acts together and respect the people of Boise, I say it&#8217;s time for a petition drive for recall.  I think even the threat of a recall would instill some discipline into Team Dave.</p>
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		By: Eamonn Harter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eamonn Harter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 20:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the Ada County D.A. blows this off, isn&#039;t that A.G. Wasden&#039;s cue to conduct an investigation?  It seems to me that the chief duty of the Attorney General is to ensure that counties and cities adhere to state law.

EDITOR NOTE--A.G. has no duty or jurisdiction over cities.  There is a recent law that gives the office authority over county official&#039;s misdeeds, but that is because the county prosecutor is also the legal counsel for the county officials.  County prosecutor is chief law man in each county (sheriffs will argue the point, but prosecutors are the deciders).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Ada County D.A. blows this off, isn&#8217;t that A.G. Wasden&#8217;s cue to conduct an investigation?  It seems to me that the chief duty of the Attorney General is to ensure that counties and cities adhere to state law.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;A.G. has no duty or jurisdiction over cities.  There is a recent law that gives the office authority over county official&#8217;s misdeeds, but that is because the county prosecutor is also the legal counsel for the county officials.  County prosecutor is chief law man in each county (sheriffs will argue the point, but prosecutors are the deciders).</p>
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		By: Pete		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/10/23/secret-deal-prompts-call-for-probe/#comment-105481</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 18:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An analogy for our mayor and council:

&quot;In a tumor all cells act the same and have the same goal....Multiply and destroy&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An analogy for our mayor and council:</p>
<p>&#8220;In a tumor all cells act the same and have the same goal&#8230;.Multiply and destroy&#8221;</p>
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		By: katie fite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[katie fite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 17:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Westerner - Regarding where the other City Councilors are on this? Aiding and abetting antidemocratic measures to cut the public out of a voice in the Bike Park. They are all Bieter&#039;s puppets and fellow conspirators in violating the public trust. 

Just this week, the City Council again went to significant lengths to cut out even hearing a word spoken by the public on the matter. This Tuesday at a noon City Council meeting, two Bike park items were on the agenda. For context - we had learned that the day after the 10/16 Appeal hearing where Council denied the Bike Park Appeal, the City tore up the agreements they had signed with Albertson&#039;s. The City claimed they needed new agreements because now Parks and Rec will build the Dog Park, and not a contractor - when really they are trying to fix past mistakes. On 10/18 Parks and Rec Commission unanimously voted for the new Agreements - but refused to take public comment.   

Then Tuesday 10/23 the agreements were in front of City Council. Council also refused to take public comment - even after Council had to move the Bike Park documents off the consent agenda due to a citizen request. 

Those present were Mclean (who supposedly has aspirations to be Mayor some day), Woodings, Clegg and Sanchez. Not a one stuck up for the public&#039;s right to be heard on this matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Westerner &#8211; Regarding where the other City Councilors are on this? Aiding and abetting antidemocratic measures to cut the public out of a voice in the Bike Park. They are all Bieter&#8217;s puppets and fellow conspirators in violating the public trust. </p>
<p>Just this week, the City Council again went to significant lengths to cut out even hearing a word spoken by the public on the matter. This Tuesday at a noon City Council meeting, two Bike park items were on the agenda. For context &#8211; we had learned that the day after the 10/16 Appeal hearing where Council denied the Bike Park Appeal, the City tore up the agreements they had signed with Albertson&#8217;s. The City claimed they needed new agreements because now Parks and Rec will build the Dog Park, and not a contractor &#8211; when really they are trying to fix past mistakes. On 10/18 Parks and Rec Commission unanimously voted for the new Agreements &#8211; but refused to take public comment.   </p>
<p>Then Tuesday 10/23 the agreements were in front of City Council. Council also refused to take public comment &#8211; even after Council had to move the Bike Park documents off the consent agenda due to a citizen request. </p>
<p>Those present were Mclean (who supposedly has aspirations to be Mayor some day), Woodings, Clegg and Sanchez. Not a one stuck up for the public&#8217;s right to be heard on this matter.</p>
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		By: Just Like ACHD		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/10/23/secret-deal-prompts-call-for-probe/#comment-105479</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Just Like ACHD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 05:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sounds like the Mayor and Boise City Council got lessons from ACHD on how to conduct negotiations via email and memos outside of public view. REVELATION - they do this all the time. 

So what we learn from the ACHD Open Meeting Law violations is that you can go ahead and violate the law because no one cares and non one will prosecute you!!!!!!! Besides who in the world would ever question Mayor Beiter or any of the Council? Heaven Forbid!!

Goes to show that the media only cares about open meeting law violations if they are done by Republicans not Democrats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the Mayor and Boise City Council got lessons from ACHD on how to conduct negotiations via email and memos outside of public view. REVELATION &#8211; they do this all the time. </p>
<p>So what we learn from the ACHD Open Meeting Law violations is that you can go ahead and violate the law because no one cares and non one will prosecute you!!!!!!! Besides who in the world would ever question Mayor Beiter or any of the Council? Heaven Forbid!!</p>
<p>Goes to show that the media only cares about open meeting law violations if they are done by Republicans not Democrats.</p>
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		By: We can hope		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/10/23/secret-deal-prompts-call-for-probe/#comment-105478</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[We can hope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 01:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We can only hope that Bistline&#039;s complaint was correctly and strongly enough worded to shed light on this, but Dem&#039;s usually don&#039;t go too hard on other Dem&#039;s.  

Also, Albertson Corporation is bleeding money.  I guess that does not affect Joe&#039;s grandson with regard to his political spending and dealing.  

Keeping the Albertson idea secret required a violation of the open meeting laws.  Nobody asked any questions.  Consider this:  Albertson (et al) wants to see the mayor replaced . . .?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can only hope that Bistline&#8217;s complaint was correctly and strongly enough worded to shed light on this, but Dem&#8217;s usually don&#8217;t go too hard on other Dem&#8217;s.  </p>
<p>Also, Albertson Corporation is bleeding money.  I guess that does not affect Joe&#8217;s grandson with regard to his political spending and dealing.  </p>
<p>Keeping the Albertson idea secret required a violation of the open meeting laws.  Nobody asked any questions.  Consider this:  Albertson (et al) wants to see the mayor replaced . . .?</p>
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		By: Yossarian_22		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2018/10/23/secret-deal-prompts-call-for-probe/#comment-105474</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yossarian_22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2018 21:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amen to Eamonn Harter and the rest!

Boise City Govt has devolved into a pure rubberstamp for special pet projects and pay2play schemes. And yes, Bieter exploits the SJW angle for vote security from his NPC Districts of 19, 18 and 17 to stay in office (NPC = Non Playable Character = Can&#039;t think critically).
 
Maybe I would prefer a bike park too, but I want everything out in the open. If you gotta hide it, I don&#039;t want any part of it. Transparency is this administration&#039;s weakest value. 

Bieter just can&#039;t wait to raise corruption to the California level.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to Eamonn Harter and the rest!</p>
<p>Boise City Govt has devolved into a pure rubberstamp for special pet projects and pay2play schemes. And yes, Bieter exploits the SJW angle for vote security from his NPC Districts of 19, 18 and 17 to stay in office (NPC = Non Playable Character = Can&#8217;t think critically).</p>
<p>Maybe I would prefer a bike park too, but I want everything out in the open. If you gotta hide it, I don&#8217;t want any part of it. Transparency is this administration&#8217;s weakest value. </p>
<p>Bieter just can&#8217;t wait to raise corruption to the California level.</p>
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		By: Gary Earl Richardson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Earl Richardson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2018 20:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Casmir: I don&#039;t think they start out as sociopaths. I knew several of our city councilors, actually actively supported their election because of the principles they espoused and demonstrated in their previous work.

I believe Lord Acton was correct and the ancient Greek playwrights explored the phenomenon in great depth: Power corrupts. If you&#039;ve been in power long enough, you develop a kind of hubris and begin to think you know better.

Democracy is messy. If I already know what&#039;s best for my people, why waste precious time &#038; energy with public involvement?

The &quot;world-class bike-skills park&quot; is just one of the &quot;gifts&quot; present council &quot;leadership&quot; (mayor, council president &#038; president pro tem) want to expedite for us. This one is &quot;free&quot; until the city has to maintain it.

We may end up paying a lot more for some of the others—a desire named &quot;streetcar,&quot; a glass palace by the river, F35s at Gowen field,...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casmir: I don&#8217;t think they start out as sociopaths. I knew several of our city councilors, actually actively supported their election because of the principles they espoused and demonstrated in their previous work.</p>
<p>I believe Lord Acton was correct and the ancient Greek playwrights explored the phenomenon in great depth: Power corrupts. If you&#8217;ve been in power long enough, you develop a kind of hubris and begin to think you know better.</p>
<p>Democracy is messy. If I already know what&#8217;s best for my people, why waste precious time &amp; energy with public involvement?</p>
<p>The &#8220;world-class bike-skills park&#8221; is just one of the &#8220;gifts&#8221; present council &#8220;leadership&#8221; (mayor, council president &amp; president pro tem) want to expedite for us. This one is &#8220;free&#8221; until the city has to maintain it.</p>
<p>We may end up paying a lot more for some of the others—a desire named &#8220;streetcar,&#8221; a glass palace by the river, F35s at Gowen field,&#8230;</p>
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