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		By: erico49		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/04/behave-yourself-or-no-candy/#comment-106022</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2019 18:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We need to lock up the people we are afraid of, not those who just pissed us off.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to lock up the people we are afraid of, not those who just pissed us off.</p>
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		By: Three tier jails		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/04/behave-yourself-or-no-candy/#comment-106018</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 23:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We basically have a three-tier jail system (plus a couple more if including the nut house).

Pie in the sky idea:  The big change I&#039;d like to make is to have very limited space for the worst of the worst.  The prisoners who absolutely did it and are serving long or life terms for violent crimes.  If they have no chance of overturning the conviction etc., I see no reason to keep them alive.  Money savings potential is large if we can get the lawyers to stop fighting for these maggots.

More doable idea:  Change the laws and punishment of the relatively harmless stuff where we are harshly disrupting and incarcerating someone who was mostly law abiding and paying taxes before getting jailed for having some of grandma&#039;s pills.  (Numerous other examples of insignificant crimes blown all out of proportion by the for-profit machine.)  This person needs forced treatment but typically not expensive lockup.  We fix them and they keep paying taxes is the plan.  No, we are not effectively doing this now.

We do have a broken system overall.  Laws, Police, Courts, Jails.  It seems to be a for profit system.  We are rapidly becoming a police state where neighbors are claiming a man exercising on the sidewalk looks suspicious and the police will shake him down based on the simple say so of the paranoid citizen.  Cops are still not being held to account for errors and violations of rights.  Not to mention the ignorance of the population about the ever more intrusive surveillance by our own governments and police.  How many new laws did they pass today?

The supersized for-profit jail is every Sheriff&#039;s dream of a revenue stream just for his department.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/08/jeff-bezos-protests-the-invasion-of-his-privacy-as-amazon-builds-a-sprawling-surveillance-state-for-everyone-else/

EDITOR NOTE--What about the candy bar?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We basically have a three-tier jail system (plus a couple more if including the nut house).</p>
<p>Pie in the sky idea:  The big change I&#8217;d like to make is to have very limited space for the worst of the worst.  The prisoners who absolutely did it and are serving long or life terms for violent crimes.  If they have no chance of overturning the conviction etc., I see no reason to keep them alive.  Money savings potential is large if we can get the lawyers to stop fighting for these maggots.</p>
<p>More doable idea:  Change the laws and punishment of the relatively harmless stuff where we are harshly disrupting and incarcerating someone who was mostly law abiding and paying taxes before getting jailed for having some of grandma&#8217;s pills.  (Numerous other examples of insignificant crimes blown all out of proportion by the for-profit machine.)  This person needs forced treatment but typically not expensive lockup.  We fix them and they keep paying taxes is the plan.  No, we are not effectively doing this now.</p>
<p>We do have a broken system overall.  Laws, Police, Courts, Jails.  It seems to be a for profit system.  We are rapidly becoming a police state where neighbors are claiming a man exercising on the sidewalk looks suspicious and the police will shake him down based on the simple say so of the paranoid citizen.  Cops are still not being held to account for errors and violations of rights.  Not to mention the ignorance of the population about the ever more intrusive surveillance by our own governments and police.  How many new laws did they pass today?</p>
<p>The supersized for-profit jail is every Sheriff&#8217;s dream of a revenue stream just for his department.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States</a></p>
<p><a href="https://theintercept.com/2019/02/08/jeff-bezos-protests-the-invasion-of-his-privacy-as-amazon-builds-a-sprawling-surveillance-state-for-everyone-else/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://theintercept.com/2019/02/08/jeff-bezos-protests-the-invasion-of-his-privacy-as-amazon-builds-a-sprawling-surveillance-state-for-everyone-else/</a></p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;What about the candy bar?</p>
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		By: W		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/04/behave-yourself-or-no-candy/#comment-106014</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 17:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Empty the Jails.....apparently, you&#039;ve never encountered someone high on PCP, bath salts, or any one of a number of other drugs that have effects on humans that you can&#039;t even imagine.  Making such substances - which have no safe amounts or safe uses whatsoever - would be sheer insanity.  There is no freedom argument when it comes to drugs such as the ones I&#039;m speaking of.  It&#039;s a serious public safety issue through and through and that trumps &quot;hey, leave me alone....I&#039;m not bothering anyone&quot; all day long.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Empty the Jails&#8230;..apparently, you&#8217;ve never encountered someone high on PCP, bath salts, or any one of a number of other drugs that have effects on humans that you can&#8217;t even imagine.  Making such substances &#8211; which have no safe amounts or safe uses whatsoever &#8211; would be sheer insanity.  There is no freedom argument when it comes to drugs such as the ones I&#8217;m speaking of.  It&#8217;s a serious public safety issue through and through and that trumps &#8220;hey, leave me alone&#8230;.I&#8217;m not bothering anyone&#8221; all day long.</p>
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		By: Empty the Jails		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/04/behave-yourself-or-no-candy/#comment-106008</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Empty the Jails]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2019 12:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul - Incarceration rates soared after Nixon started the War on Drugs. Legalize all drugs. Leave people alone unless they are creating a disturbance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8211; Incarceration rates soared after Nixon started the War on Drugs. Legalize all drugs. Leave people alone unless they are creating a disturbance.</p>
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		By: Forced Air		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2019 21:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks to Eamonn Harter for posting what was going to post on this. This TG freak is demanding way more than a chocolate bar. This is what liberalism has wrought.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Eamonn Harter for posting what was going to post on this. This TG freak is demanding way more than a chocolate bar. This is what liberalism has wrought.</p>
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		By: Eamonn Harter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2019 16:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Behave yourself or no sex change operations!

https://www.idahostatejournal.com/news/local/state-ordered-to-pay-for-surgery-for-transgender-prison-inmate/article_c43c405e-1e9b-57f2-9829-f774e12737d0.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Behave yourself or no sex change operations!</p>
<p><a href="https://www.idahostatejournal.com/news/local/state-ordered-to-pay-for-surgery-for-transgender-prison-inmate/article_c43c405e-1e9b-57f2-9829-f774e12737d0.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.idahostatejournal.com/news/local/state-ordered-to-pay-for-surgery-for-transgender-prison-inmate/article_c43c405e-1e9b-57f2-9829-f774e12737d0.html</a></p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/04/behave-yourself-or-no-candy/#comment-106005</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2019 20:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is not well understtod it costs nearly $100/day to incarcerate peope.  ADA county acknowledges it costs them $97.50/day.  All thi cost comes back on property taxpayers at the county level.  We need ti figure out what models of incarceration are used in other western countries to keep their incarceration levels lower than what is the reality in the USA.  Canyon County is going to try and pass a $190million bond election this May.  It will likely fail and Comm. Tom Dale has admitted they will then seek Judicial Conformation to build a new jail.  I can now visualize Comm. Tom out shopping for the right judge to get this monster built.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not well understtod it costs nearly $100/day to incarcerate peope.  ADA county acknowledges it costs them $97.50/day.  All thi cost comes back on property taxpayers at the county level.  We need ti figure out what models of incarceration are used in other western countries to keep their incarceration levels lower than what is the reality in the USA.  Canyon County is going to try and pass a $190million bond election this May.  It will likely fail and Comm. Tom Dale has admitted they will then seek Judicial Conformation to build a new jail.  I can now visualize Comm. Tom out shopping for the right judge to get this monster built.</p>
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		By: W		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/04/behave-yourself-or-no-candy/#comment-106002</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2019 15:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not sure where 3rdGenBoise is getting his or her information, but it just simply isn&#039;t true that anyone is spending a great deal of time incarcerated here in the Gem State for &quot;holding a small amount of weed&quot;.  In Idaho, simple possession of marijuana in personal use amounts is a misdemeanor, punishable by no more than a year in jail.  (And getting any jail time at all in such cases would be unusual).  To become a felony, the amount has to be substantially larger - definitely not what one would consider personal use or medicinal in nature.  And even in those cases, the very maximum incarceration - which would be an unheard of sentence these days - is five years.  In fact, the only substantial sentences that involve marijuana in Idaho and that result in any sort of significant prison time are in cases where there are other, serious crimes involved or where the defendant is convicted of trafficking, which is a world apart than simple possession.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure where 3rdGenBoise is getting his or her information, but it just simply isn&#8217;t true that anyone is spending a great deal of time incarcerated here in the Gem State for &#8220;holding a small amount of weed&#8221;.  In Idaho, simple possession of marijuana in personal use amounts is a misdemeanor, punishable by no more than a year in jail.  (And getting any jail time at all in such cases would be unusual).  To become a felony, the amount has to be substantially larger &#8211; definitely not what one would consider personal use or medicinal in nature.  And even in those cases, the very maximum incarceration &#8211; which would be an unheard of sentence these days &#8211; is five years.  In fact, the only substantial sentences that involve marijuana in Idaho and that result in any sort of significant prison time are in cases where there are other, serious crimes involved or where the defendant is convicted of trafficking, which is a world apart than simple possession.</p>
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		By: Freedum		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Freedum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2019 07:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The chocolate ration will be increased from 30 grams to 25 grams criminal, aren’t you lucky!

Go USA! We’re #1(highest incarceration rate per capita in the world)

Strange that we’re somehow qualified to bring freedom to the rest of the world...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chocolate ration will be increased from 30 grams to 25 grams criminal, aren’t you lucky!</p>
<p>Go USA! We’re #1(highest incarceration rate per capita in the world)</p>
<p>Strange that we’re somehow qualified to bring freedom to the rest of the world&#8230;</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2019 21:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Monkey see. Monkey do. 

Let&#039;s recall the Boise Police Chief offered pizzas to the cop getting the most DUI arrests. 

A reward for doing what you are supposed to do... 

A Mr. Goodbar, donuts, or a pizza- it&#039;s the same.

EDITOR NOTE--I believe the pizza deal was just among the officers.  Chiefs I have known would not condone &quot;quotas&quot; of any kind.  Point of the story was the idea of getting cons to behave for a chocolate bar.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monkey see. Monkey do. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s recall the Boise Police Chief offered pizzas to the cop getting the most DUI arrests. </p>
<p>A reward for doing what you are supposed to do&#8230; </p>
<p>A Mr. Goodbar, donuts, or a pizza- it&#8217;s the same.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;I believe the pizza deal was just among the officers.  Chiefs I have known would not condone &#8220;quotas&#8221; of any kind.  Point of the story was the idea of getting cons to behave for a chocolate bar.</p>
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