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		By: Forced Air		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/20/counties-not-cities-can-do-advisory-vote/#comment-106070</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Forced Air]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2019 19:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not surprised in the least. This is just so much more of the same tactics that centers of POWER utilize to get their way. We see this everywhere. California is a perfect example. The whole state looks like a Leninist projection of social engineering, but with 21st century glitter. Tech Giants are the new social class, with the Dem Party as the single Communist political organization. Chairman Brown carries out the edicts of elites that dine in their crystal dachas. And Mayor Bieter wants to be one of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not surprised in the least. This is just so much more of the same tactics that centers of POWER utilize to get their way. We see this everywhere. California is a perfect example. The whole state looks like a Leninist projection of social engineering, but with 21st century glitter. Tech Giants are the new social class, with the Dem Party as the single Communist political organization. Chairman Brown carries out the edicts of elites that dine in their crystal dachas. And Mayor Bieter wants to be one of them.</p>
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		By: But why not?		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/20/counties-not-cities-can-do-advisory-vote/#comment-106059</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[But why not?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 02:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If it is advisory, why not have it?  The equivalent option would be a constitutional amendment, right?  People for for constitutional amendment, and the elected overturn. Sounds advisory, and disregarded to me.  Don&#039;t know how this applies to cities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is advisory, why not have it?  The equivalent option would be a constitutional amendment, right?  People for for constitutional amendment, and the elected overturn. Sounds advisory, and disregarded to me.  Don&#8217;t know how this applies to cities.</p>
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		By: What would you do?		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/20/counties-not-cities-can-do-advisory-vote/#comment-106058</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What would you do?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 02:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So now that the workings are beginning to show from behind the curtains, there are many questions.  Cover your eyes. . .

Has the library been less than forthcoming on this project?  (Are they manipulating finances and operations?)

Has the library been in collusion with the mayor&#039;s office, the donors, or themselves?  (Who knew about this and when? Are entities other than the library manipulating finances and operations for other reasons?)

Is the library creating a viable and valuable project and doing it according to the best public law and policy?  

When was the last time you went to a library/Downtown?  Other places?

How much of a dollar figure would vote for a new library or a remodel?  20 mil?  30 mil?  35 mil? 45 mil? 60 mil? 70 mil?

Think back 15 years, and then branch libraries came along.  On a scale of 1 to 5 (five is best)  how successful do you FEEL they have been?  Can they demonstrate success through feedback?  

How has the management at the city and the library evolved with regard to professional experience and qualification vs. longevity and politics?

Can the old library be remodeled?  What if there is an earthquake?  What if Safdie did a remodel?  

What is your favorite library?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now that the workings are beginning to show from behind the curtains, there are many questions.  Cover your eyes. . .</p>
<p>Has the library been less than forthcoming on this project?  (Are they manipulating finances and operations?)</p>
<p>Has the library been in collusion with the mayor&#8217;s office, the donors, or themselves?  (Who knew about this and when? Are entities other than the library manipulating finances and operations for other reasons?)</p>
<p>Is the library creating a viable and valuable project and doing it according to the best public law and policy?  </p>
<p>When was the last time you went to a library/Downtown?  Other places?</p>
<p>How much of a dollar figure would vote for a new library or a remodel?  20 mil?  30 mil?  35 mil? 45 mil? 60 mil? 70 mil?</p>
<p>Think back 15 years, and then branch libraries came along.  On a scale of 1 to 5 (five is best)  how successful do you FEEL they have been?  Can they demonstrate success through feedback?  </p>
<p>How has the management at the city and the library evolved with regard to professional experience and qualification vs. longevity and politics?</p>
<p>Can the old library be remodeled?  What if there is an earthquake?  What if Safdie did a remodel?  </p>
<p>What is your favorite library?</p>
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		By: Idaholc		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/20/counties-not-cities-can-do-advisory-vote/#comment-106057</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Idaholc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2019 01:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We don’t want an advisory vote anyway.  All Guardian readers should go to the Boise Working Together Facebook page and volunteer to carry a petition to let the people have an authoritative vote.

https://m.facebook.com/boiseworkingtogether/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don’t want an advisory vote anyway.  All Guardian readers should go to the Boise Working Together Facebook page and volunteer to carry a petition to let the people have an authoritative vote.</p>
<p><a href="https://m.facebook.com/boiseworkingtogether/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://m.facebook.com/boiseworkingtogether/</a></p>
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		By: Boiselove		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/20/counties-not-cities-can-do-advisory-vote/#comment-106056</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boiselove]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2019 22:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I truly apprecite this website. Thank you for poviding these topics and enabling this forum.  Now for the library- the other day on Idaho Matters the topic was the Library! and how they are more community centers.  Would it not be great to have a Grange/Library! in one&#039;s hood.  I like the Collister Library and would love that to be the investmen, one that create community in neighborshoods, not a downtown structure. I have voiced this often through the some 30 years I have live here.  Yet I have no issue with refreshing the downtown Library!, but that is where it ends.  I agree Mayor B. obviously fighting this vote and sadly has lost his way.  I think it is now time for Boise to take a hard look at how it is spending taxpayers $$ and what is being given away at our expense.  I am sad the new city counsel is aligned with this. If this does not get a vote we need to organize and vote them ALL out of office.  This is simply wrong and tone deaf.

EDITOR NOTE--First step is some viable candidates for the November election.  Three council seats an d the mayor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly apprecite this website. Thank you for poviding these topics and enabling this forum.  Now for the library- the other day on Idaho Matters the topic was the Library! and how they are more community centers.  Would it not be great to have a Grange/Library! in one&#8217;s hood.  I like the Collister Library and would love that to be the investmen, one that create community in neighborshoods, not a downtown structure. I have voiced this often through the some 30 years I have live here.  Yet I have no issue with refreshing the downtown Library!, but that is where it ends.  I agree Mayor B. obviously fighting this vote and sadly has lost his way.  I think it is now time for Boise to take a hard look at how it is spending taxpayers $$ and what is being given away at our expense.  I am sad the new city counsel is aligned with this. If this does not get a vote we need to organize and vote them ALL out of office.  This is simply wrong and tone deaf.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;First step is some viable candidates for the November election.  Three council seats an d the mayor.</p>
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		By: Boisean Since Forever		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/20/counties-not-cities-can-do-advisory-vote/#comment-106054</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boisean Since Forever]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2019 17:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wish I could believe the mayor only wanted to &quot;slow confusion.&quot;  It smells and waddles and quacks more like he wanted to create confusion and eliminate opposition to his grand vision of Tomorrowland.  I see that New York wants to start putting a surcharge (tax) on all vehicles entering downtown.  One can&#039;t help but wonder how long until that becomes a perfect solution for Boise.  Those who dared come to town would end up paying for pet projects in Bieterville, plus it would let bicycles and electric scooters rule the roads since fewer and fewer common folk would venture in restricted areas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could believe the mayor only wanted to &#8220;slow confusion.&#8221;  It smells and waddles and quacks more like he wanted to create confusion and eliminate opposition to his grand vision of Tomorrowland.  I see that New York wants to start putting a surcharge (tax) on all vehicles entering downtown.  One can&#8217;t help but wonder how long until that becomes a perfect solution for Boise.  Those who dared come to town would end up paying for pet projects in Bieterville, plus it would let bicycles and electric scooters rule the roads since fewer and fewer common folk would venture in restricted areas.</p>
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		By: katie fite		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/20/counties-not-cities-can-do-advisory-vote/#comment-106053</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[katie fite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2019 16:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If anyone is interested, Lauren McClean sent out an e-mail with a few survey questions about the Library and Cabin. I did not get the e-survey mail, but it was forwarded to me (even though I at times get other things from her so it may have been sent to only the &quot;in&quot; crowd). If folks want to comment, and spread the survey beyond the &quot;in&quot; crowd - there is space to type in what you think:



https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdLSdTn8r_FMiCjN-64yS7wp1J8e94Qc5VkTso0X8gNyh2qRA/viewform?fbzx=5309457193074456526]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone is interested, Lauren McClean sent out an e-mail with a few survey questions about the Library and Cabin. I did not get the e-survey mail, but it was forwarded to me (even though I at times get other things from her so it may have been sent to only the &#8220;in&#8221; crowd). If folks want to comment, and spread the survey beyond the &#8220;in&#8221; crowd &#8211; there is space to type in what you think:</p>
<p><a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdLSdTn8r_FMiCjN-64yS7wp1J8e94Qc5VkTso0X8gNyh2qRA/viewform?fbzx=5309457193074456526" rel="nofollow ugc">https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdLSdTn8r_FMiCjN-64yS7wp1J8e94Qc5VkTso0X8gNyh2qRA/viewform?fbzx=5309457193074456526</a></p>
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		By: Really?		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/20/counties-not-cities-can-do-advisory-vote/#comment-106052</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Really?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2019 13:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Where in the city code is this core function language?  Nowhere, I suspect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where in the city code is this core function language?  Nowhere, I suspect.</p>
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		By: Kook-aid		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/20/counties-not-cities-can-do-advisory-vote/#comment-106051</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kook-aid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2019 04:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Who dare speak and tell the Mayor he is wrong?  None of them!  Not a single one of that chicken #%&amp;* bunch of feel good money grubbing ass kissers.  It should not fall to the Guardian to notice such a misleading statement by the Mayor.  

City Councilors, it&#039;s time you stop drinking the kook-aid and do the right thing for the taxpayers.  Either that or please run out your term at next election.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who dare speak and tell the Mayor he is wrong?  None of them!  Not a single one of that chicken #%&#038;* bunch of feel good money grubbing ass kissers.  It should not fall to the Guardian to notice such a misleading statement by the Mayor.  </p>
<p>City Councilors, it&#8217;s time you stop drinking the kook-aid and do the right thing for the taxpayers.  Either that or please run out your term at next election.</p>
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		By: katie fite		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/02/20/counties-not-cities-can-do-advisory-vote/#comment-106050</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[katie fite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2019 01:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the useful link, Idaholc. These are Initiatives that were filed with the city by Boise Working Together. They are not for advisory votes, and it is my understanding they would become ordinances if passed.

The muddling of the Mayor obscured the difference between what the city claimed to be contemplating, which was an Advisory vote, and what&#039;s filed.

Here is what the Manual says about Initiatives:
City initiative and referendum elections are held at the November election in odd-numbered years, along with city candidate elections. I know I was confused listening to the Council meeting discussion last night.

I think the Mayor&#039;s goal was to sow confusion ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the useful link, Idaholc. These are Initiatives that were filed with the city by Boise Working Together. They are not for advisory votes, and it is my understanding they would become ordinances if passed.</p>
<p>The muddling of the Mayor obscured the difference between what the city claimed to be contemplating, which was an Advisory vote, and what&#8217;s filed.</p>
<p>Here is what the Manual says about Initiatives:<br />
City initiative and referendum elections are held at the November election in odd-numbered years, along with city candidate elections. I know I was confused listening to the Council meeting discussion last night.</p>
<p>I think the Mayor&#8217;s goal was to sow confusion &#8230;</p>
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