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		By: dbeers		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/04/30/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do/#comment-106351</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dbeers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2019 15:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I respect all of those emergency responders, but a goof is a goof.  And these emergency responders are in desperate need of some water training.  As an avid jetboater, I regularly run rivers that flow a far greater rates during normal flow than the Boise is currently.  I too have experienced mechanical breakdown, but with a calm head and a little preparedness you can avert what went on here, which could have been both tragic and expensive due to the loss of life and equipment. Unfortunately this ignorance and lack of preparedness will cost us all the price of a boat, but hopefully BFD will take something away from this and send their responders to some real water training with some experienced people that can help them avoid future situations like this.  

My biggest issue with the whole deal, be it the city, the fire department or any other government agency is that they never seem to look at the cost of what they do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect all of those emergency responders, but a goof is a goof.  And these emergency responders are in desperate need of some water training.  As an avid jetboater, I regularly run rivers that flow a far greater rates during normal flow than the Boise is currently.  I too have experienced mechanical breakdown, but with a calm head and a little preparedness you can avert what went on here, which could have been both tragic and expensive due to the loss of life and equipment. Unfortunately this ignorance and lack of preparedness will cost us all the price of a boat, but hopefully BFD will take something away from this and send their responders to some real water training with some experienced people that can help them avoid future situations like this.  </p>
<p>My biggest issue with the whole deal, be it the city, the fire department or any other government agency is that they never seem to look at the cost of what they do.</p>
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		By: Forced Air		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/04/30/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do/#comment-106349</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Forced Air]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2019 20:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is why I have enormous respect for rivers. Too many believe that they can conquer rapidly moving water because it&#039;s shallow. Wrong. It&#039;s more dangerous than deep water, in most cases. BFD should have known better. The FPS was just too prohibitive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I have enormous respect for rivers. Too many believe that they can conquer rapidly moving water because it&#8217;s shallow. Wrong. It&#8217;s more dangerous than deep water, in most cases. BFD should have known better. The FPS was just too prohibitive.</p>
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		By: western guy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/04/30/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do/#comment-106344</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[western guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2019 23:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Was one of the 13 &#039;emergency vehicles&#039; the union representative who was checking (while on duty being paid by the City) to see that all of the union members were being adequately taken care of:  coffee, snacks, counseling, etc.?

Will there be an after action report (&#039;hotwash&#039;) to divert attention from &#039;operator error&#039; or &#039;insufficient training&#039; as the real cause?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was one of the 13 &#8217;emergency vehicles&#8217; the union representative who was checking (while on duty being paid by the City) to see that all of the union members were being adequately taken care of:  coffee, snacks, counseling, etc.?</p>
<p>Will there be an after action report (&#8216;hotwash&#8217;) to divert attention from &#8216;operator error&#8217; or &#8216;insufficient training&#8217; as the real cause?</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/04/30/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do/#comment-106343</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2019 22:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Remember when the BPD cop ran his SUV into oncoming traffic and crashed into another car?  

The initial story was, &quot;mechanical failure&quot;- tie rods. Even before an investigation- that&#039;s what the offending Officer Burch said and the Press Release went out. 

Then the investigation said, &quot;NO! It was not mechanical failure. He fell asleep.&quot;.  

Why are readers taking pot shots and ridiculing? Hard to say; why does BPD(BFD)and the mayor lie to us taxpayers? 

:-O 


https://idahonews.com/news/local/boise-pd-suv-may-have-had-mechanical-problem-before-crash]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember when the BPD cop ran his SUV into oncoming traffic and crashed into another car?  </p>
<p>The initial story was, &#8220;mechanical failure&#8221;- tie rods. Even before an investigation- that&#8217;s what the offending Officer Burch said and the Press Release went out. </p>
<p>Then the investigation said, &#8220;NO! It was not mechanical failure. He fell asleep.&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Why are readers taking pot shots and ridiculing? Hard to say; why does BPD(BFD)and the mayor lie to us taxpayers? </p>
<p>:-O </p>
<p><a href="https://idahonews.com/news/local/boise-pd-suv-may-have-had-mechanical-problem-before-crash" rel="nofollow ugc">https://idahonews.com/news/local/boise-pd-suv-may-have-had-mechanical-problem-before-crash</a></p>
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		By: David		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/04/30/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do/#comment-106342</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2019 22:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bubble, Bubble, Burp I&#039;ll have another boat please.

Okay, kidding aside, the fact this happened on a practice run and not in the middle of a actual rescue means they did what was necessary at the time. It is a shame about the boat, but as long as it is not replaced with a Chris-Craft 34&#039; Catalina I am good. Then again team Bieter probably just saw this and is thinking hmmm.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bubble, Bubble, Burp I&#8217;ll have another boat please.</p>
<p>Okay, kidding aside, the fact this happened on a practice run and not in the middle of a actual rescue means they did what was necessary at the time. It is a shame about the boat, but as long as it is not replaced with a Chris-Craft 34&#8242; Catalina I am good. Then again team Bieter probably just saw this and is thinking hmmm.</p>
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		By: Marcel’s human		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/04/30/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do/#comment-106341</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcel’s human]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2019 19:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excuse me while I wipe the tears of laughter from my face.   It is Boise and appears that it will always be Boise. Please explain the common denominator which makes this city and this state with such absurd events.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me while I wipe the tears of laughter from my face.   It is Boise and appears that it will always be Boise. Please explain the common denominator which makes this city and this state with such absurd events.</p>
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		By: Guardian reader		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/04/30/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do/#comment-106338</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guardian reader]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2019 19:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agree with Steve. Why all the criticism and snide remarks-just because it&#039;s the City? Every year the river rises and every year when the water is still high there are a couple idiots that try to float early or go for a dip and need rescuing. To successfully perform a swift water rescue you have to practice in swift water, and it&#039;s dangerous. Things happen, equipment breaks down. Not everything the City does requires condemnation or second-guessing.  These are people risking their lives  training to save others and deserve respect!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Steve. Why all the criticism and snide remarks-just because it&#8217;s the City? Every year the river rises and every year when the water is still high there are a couple idiots that try to float early or go for a dip and need rescuing. To successfully perform a swift water rescue you have to practice in swift water, and it&#8217;s dangerous. Things happen, equipment breaks down. Not everything the City does requires condemnation or second-guessing.  These are people risking their lives  training to save others and deserve respect!</p>
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		By: Dave Kangas		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/04/30/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do/#comment-106333</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Kangas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2019 17:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thankfully  no one was seriously hurt. The boat can be replaced. Remember your ridicule next time the BFD has to mobilize to save someone from the high water every year. We should appreciate the time, effort and danger they place themselves in to practice in these conditions. If it was you, a friend or relative who needed saving in these conditions, you would want them to be trained and experienced. Accidents happen and in these conditions, issues become dangerous very fast! Think about the man who just lost his life in N Idaho trying to save someone else.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankfully  no one was seriously hurt. The boat can be replaced. Remember your ridicule next time the BFD has to mobilize to save someone from the high water every year. We should appreciate the time, effort and danger they place themselves in to practice in these conditions. If it was you, a friend or relative who needed saving in these conditions, you would want them to be trained and experienced. Accidents happen and in these conditions, issues become dangerous very fast! Think about the man who just lost his life in N Idaho trying to save someone else.</p>
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		By: Eamonn Harter		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/04/30/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do/#comment-106332</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eamonn Harter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2019 16:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alternative headline: &quot;Mayor Bieter Asks Feds to Perform &#039;Act of God&#039; in Rescuing City Heroes&quot;

Of course at the top of the article there should be an image of Dave Bieter with furrowed brow and a very worried countenance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alternative headline: &#8220;Mayor Bieter Asks Feds to Perform &#8216;Act of God&#8217; in Rescuing City Heroes&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course at the top of the article there should be an image of Dave Bieter with furrowed brow and a very worried countenance.</p>
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		By: Bravado		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bravado]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2019 16:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I appreciate firefighters.  Perhaps they need a lesson to distinguish between bravado and courage.  The individuals who took this boat out made a really bad decision.  That should be dissected and the person who &quot;gave permission&quot; needs a demotion.  Seriously.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate firefighters.  Perhaps they need a lesson to distinguish between bravado and courage.  The individuals who took this boat out made a really bad decision.  That should be dissected and the person who &#8220;gave permission&#8221; needs a demotion.  Seriously.</p>
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