Comments on: Library Petition Garners Enough Signatures For Vote

By: Robert E Heindel Jr

Robert E Heindel Jr — Sat, 08 Jun 2019 17:01:22 +0000

Easterner:

My comment was an attempt (weak apparently) to express what I expect the city is hoping for – confusion on the initiatives so that people don’t know what they are voting for.

The reference to simpletons is how I feel that Bieter and his troops see the public – who are trying to express desire for reasonable use of public funds.

I resent the thought that a vote for Bieter was a vote of confidence for him to run amuck without anybody questioning the reasonableness of some of the projects.

By: $85 Million CASH - REALLY??

$85 Million CASH - REALLY?? — Sat, 08 Jun 2019 16:36:06 +0000

So now we find out that the mayor wants to pay cash????

Since when does the City of Boise have $85 million in cash????

Must be some very large slush funds stashed around the city. Now we know what the mayor has been doing with all the increased tax money he has been getting.

By: Easterner

Easterner — Fri, 07 Jun 2019 20:28:40 +0000

More fun!
While some readers here will slam City of Boise for spending money on trying to ‘inform citizens’ (albeit with a bias) on this issue– try to remember the confusion displayed above for the next 4 months.
Whether it is the city, the Library Foundation, or the “Boise Working Together” crowd making a message– there is a long way to go for 100% informed voters.

For example, to help out a bit at this early stage,- the mentioned Press Tribune article of Boise using Capital Fund money (69 million of the bigger current cash reserves) is about circumventing the upcoming July 1st STATE law preventing URD (CCDC) money for large, above-ground, projects without a vote.
It has [almost] nothing to do with this original post of the CITY initiative – other than it would be the City’s attempt to circumvent voters to get a library.

For those capable of copy/paste-
The text of the initiative: https://www.boiseworkingtogether.com/home

The URD state law:
https://legislature.idaho.gov/sessioninfo/2019/legislation/h0217/

Article of Journee saying the City has a s-ton of cash laying around:
https://www.idahopress.com/news/local/boise-might-use-cash-to-pay-for-main-library-bypassing/article_f8e908f4-7e04-5d97-a07d-d39ae6b99776.html

Seems simple, right?

By: Tax dollars

Tax dollars — Thu, 06 Jun 2019 21:13:21 +0000

The Press Tribune just wrote that Boise may pay for the library out of the current budget. Are current budget dollars tax dollars and subject to the new law? Tax dollars vs. private dollars? Tax dollars = budget = urban renewal repayments. Can somebody please interpret the law for us?

By: frank

frank — Thu, 06 Jun 2019 01:35:55 +0000

Elected Public servant Dave Bieter is soliciting funds for both Coffee and suntan lotion for his campaign journey to contact 100,000 constituents before November! All the while not taking calls in his office from constituents? WHAT A MAYOR

By: Easterner

Easterner — Wed, 05 Jun 2019 21:46:53 +0000

It’s fun to put the two above posts together of FA & Bob.

“VOTE NO” and
“No means yes, yes means no”

Really, if you follow Forced Air’s suggestion and vote NO this November, you will be in favor of shooting down the initiative – the initiative requires a public VOTE on expensive library and stadium projects— in the future.

I’m pretty sure that is not what FA really wants. Which leads to Bob’s comment.

No means yes, and yes means no.
It is even funnier with Bob’s use of “simpleton voters”.
IMO, I don’t think either of the two commenters have a full grasp of the initiative. So I’m left wondering, “Who are the simpletons?”

The wording on the measure (future city code) is already done and in the text of the initiatives.
So, any wordsmithing belongs to the the organizers whom drafted the initiative already approved by more than 5,600 of those ‘simpleton voters’.

Just to help out a bit at this early stage, the upcoming November vote is NOT about whether to build an expensive library or a sport stadium. All clear on that, right?

Do we really want people (simpletons) to vote on library projects costing more than 25 million?
What about 24 million? No concern apparently.

Same goes for a sports stadium- if it costs less than 5 million in combined public/private funds– no worries?

Seems like a simple vote: yes or no? ha!

By: Foothills Rider

Foothills Rider — Wed, 05 Jun 2019 18:54:59 +0000

Semantics confuse the real issue. I am “pro library” but not “pro $80 million” to get there. See this link for costs of main and branch libraries (2017). How the heck did Boise end up at $80 million? We should be able to do something extraordinary without this price-tag.

https://www.libraryjournal.com/?detailStory=year-in-architecture-2017-public-library-data

By: Buying Loyalty?

Buying Loyalty? — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 20:40:43 +0000

The salary our tax dollars paid for the individual who was responsible for the philanthropic part of the library project should be of serious concern. Very high salaries in municipal (public) positions leads me to question the concept of “buying loyalty.”

By: Bob

Bob — Mon, 03 Jun 2019 23:30:13 +0000

City: “Here’s our next step – influence the wording on the measure with legal gobbledygook so that people think no means yes, and yes means no. Those simpleton voters will never know what hit them!”

By: Forced Air

Forced Air — Sun, 02 Jun 2019 20:02:35 +0000

“Now we will continue the conversation with Boise voters about the Main Library Campus….”

Read as “we will utilize BIG $$ from interested parties to ramrod this concept into your psyche.”

VOTE NO on all this crap.