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	Comments on: Survey Shows &#8220;Growing Too Fast&#8221;	</title>
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		By: Forced Air		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/06/28/survey-shows-growing-too-fast/#comment-106577</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Forced Air]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jul 2019 18:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I was involved with all the workshops that ostensibly tried to deal with growth, the only answer was HOW to take in more of it. Smart Growth was the political dynamic that tried to explain this dilemma and foster &quot;solutions.&quot; I used to embrace such concepts, but at some point I saw the poison in the KoolAid.

The REAL answer is Guardian&#039;s suggestion that we stop the merchandising. Absolutely, we need to stop it. We also need to educate what will happen if we allow too many people into too small of space. You will get complex problems that demand too much government to &quot;fix.&quot; Except nothing gets fixed. Look at California or Portland. You get chaos and destruction. 

We need to eliminate this &quot;easy credit&quot; system and restore a sound money system. True price discovery is the key. I&#039;ve yelled this all before and I will keep doing it. Ask yourself if YOU want ANTIFA setting up shop here in Boise. They are a pestilence that will breed with the numbers. I witnessed their types when I participated in Occupy Boise, years ago. They just didn&#039;t have a name yet. STOP THE GROWTH.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was involved with all the workshops that ostensibly tried to deal with growth, the only answer was HOW to take in more of it. Smart Growth was the political dynamic that tried to explain this dilemma and foster &#8220;solutions.&#8221; I used to embrace such concepts, but at some point I saw the poison in the KoolAid.</p>
<p>The REAL answer is Guardian&#8217;s suggestion that we stop the merchandising. Absolutely, we need to stop it. We also need to educate what will happen if we allow too many people into too small of space. You will get complex problems that demand too much government to &#8220;fix.&#8221; Except nothing gets fixed. Look at California or Portland. You get chaos and destruction. </p>
<p>We need to eliminate this &#8220;easy credit&#8221; system and restore a sound money system. True price discovery is the key. I&#8217;ve yelled this all before and I will keep doing it. Ask yourself if YOU want ANTIFA setting up shop here in Boise. They are a pestilence that will breed with the numbers. I witnessed their types when I participated in Occupy Boise, years ago. They just didn&#8217;t have a name yet. STOP THE GROWTH.</p>
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		By: Eamonn Harter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2019 05:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Could the Guardian comment on properties in the area owned by out-of-state absentee owners?  This seems like it may be the missing link that explains the extreme disconnect between (current) real estate prices and the local economy which simply cannot support them.  My understanding is that you can get government-guaranteed mortgage loans for investment properties if they are at least 100 miles from the buyer’s primary residence.  Speculative bubbles like this have consequences.  Available housing inventory for sale in Boise is up nearly 40% year over year (Meridian @ 50%) which may be a sign investors are looking to cash out and trying to hit the exits all at once.  Many flippers take out hard money loans and they have to sell fast because carrying costs are very high.  We are also repeating history with very low quality mortgage underwriting done almost exclusively by shadow banks which aren’t subject to the same rules as actual deposit taking banks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could the Guardian comment on properties in the area owned by out-of-state absentee owners?  This seems like it may be the missing link that explains the extreme disconnect between (current) real estate prices and the local economy which simply cannot support them.  My understanding is that you can get government-guaranteed mortgage loans for investment properties if they are at least 100 miles from the buyer’s primary residence.  Speculative bubbles like this have consequences.  Available housing inventory for sale in Boise is up nearly 40% year over year (Meridian @ 50%) which may be a sign investors are looking to cash out and trying to hit the exits all at once.  Many flippers take out hard money loans and they have to sell fast because carrying costs are very high.  We are also repeating history with very low quality mortgage underwriting done almost exclusively by shadow banks which aren’t subject to the same rules as actual deposit taking banks.</p>
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		By: Navillus		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/06/28/survey-shows-growing-too-fast/#comment-106564</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Navillus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2019 05:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I moved to Boise from the Midwest in 1970 when the population was 79,000.
My husband at that time had been raised on a farm outside Caldwell and wanted to return to Idaho.  We purchased a four bedroom &#038; two bath house on half an acre for $30,000 in a very nice neighborhood off Mountain View Drive.  

Linda Lund Davis was the Ada County Planning Administrator from 1973 to 1976.  She then went on to be Chair of the Ada County Board of Commissioners from 1976 to 1978.  Under her guidance, it was not possible to build a house west of Five Mile Road on less than five acres and Boise was a wonderful and peaceful place to live.

It seems that everything started to go wrong in the early 1980&#039;s when building the Mall became a large and ugly debate.  The fight went on for years and Downtown Boise began to disintegrate.  Stores either went out of business or moved to the Mall once it was built.  Walmart also entered Boise and profit-driven developers decided this would be a great place to build multiple subdivisions with homes on small lots.

Now, we&#039;re in this terrible mess of constant traffic, noise, insufficient fire or police protection, poor air quality, and all pushed on by Mayor Bieter who wants to build monuments to himself.  We have to stop this and the only way to do it is to remove Bieter and his cronies in the election.  PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING AND VOTE THE ENTIRE BUNCH OUT !!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved to Boise from the Midwest in 1970 when the population was 79,000.<br />
My husband at that time had been raised on a farm outside Caldwell and wanted to return to Idaho.  We purchased a four bedroom &amp; two bath house on half an acre for $30,000 in a very nice neighborhood off Mountain View Drive.  </p>
<p>Linda Lund Davis was the Ada County Planning Administrator from 1973 to 1976.  She then went on to be Chair of the Ada County Board of Commissioners from 1976 to 1978.  Under her guidance, it was not possible to build a house west of Five Mile Road on less than five acres and Boise was a wonderful and peaceful place to live.</p>
<p>It seems that everything started to go wrong in the early 1980&#8217;s when building the Mall became a large and ugly debate.  The fight went on for years and Downtown Boise began to disintegrate.  Stores either went out of business or moved to the Mall once it was built.  Walmart also entered Boise and profit-driven developers decided this would be a great place to build multiple subdivisions with homes on small lots.</p>
<p>Now, we&#8217;re in this terrible mess of constant traffic, noise, insufficient fire or police protection, poor air quality, and all pushed on by Mayor Bieter who wants to build monuments to himself.  We have to stop this and the only way to do it is to remove Bieter and his cronies in the election.  PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING AND VOTE THE ENTIRE BUNCH OUT !!!</p>
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		By: Inna		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Inna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jun 2019 02:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is obvious even from this BSU survey that the reason politicians want growth is higher taxes and larger tax base. We the people are a money tree farm for the politicians. They want to solve growth related problems for us by taxing us more! Geniuses. When they tout quality of life here they refer to their own life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is obvious even from this BSU survey that the reason politicians want growth is higher taxes and larger tax base. We the people are a money tree farm for the politicians. They want to solve growth related problems for us by taxing us more! Geniuses. When they tout quality of life here they refer to their own life.</p>
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		By: Kim		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/06/28/survey-shows-growing-too-fast/#comment-106560</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jun 2019 01:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daaaaaaaaaaa!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daaaaaaaaaaa!!!!</p>
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		By: Ponzi-scheme		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/06/28/survey-shows-growing-too-fast/#comment-106559</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ponzi-scheme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jun 2019 01:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Increasing taxes and fees, creative revenue streams, shuffling the money from one project to another, are all tactics to cover the cost of escalating growth. I question if many cities really can afford all of this when taking the long-view. Thus a vicious cycle is created, similar to a ponzi-scheme, where ever more rooftops are needed to keep up with rising expenses.

Raising impact fees simply raises the cost of housing as this fee is passed onto the end user in the bill of sale for a property. It is not the developer who realy pays this, it is the person who ends up under the new rooftop. 

In Boise, impact Fees for fire, police, and parks can be waived for affordable housing, but must then be replaced by drawing from the General Fund. Thus the cost of these facilities is shifted to the average taxpayer in order to subsidize low wage jobs, while also using funds that could have been applied to other costs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Increasing taxes and fees, creative revenue streams, shuffling the money from one project to another, are all tactics to cover the cost of escalating growth. I question if many cities really can afford all of this when taking the long-view. Thus a vicious cycle is created, similar to a ponzi-scheme, where ever more rooftops are needed to keep up with rising expenses.</p>
<p>Raising impact fees simply raises the cost of housing as this fee is passed onto the end user in the bill of sale for a property. It is not the developer who realy pays this, it is the person who ends up under the new rooftop. </p>
<p>In Boise, impact Fees for fire, police, and parks can be waived for affordable housing, but must then be replaced by drawing from the General Fund. Thus the cost of these facilities is shifted to the average taxpayer in order to subsidize low wage jobs, while also using funds that could have been applied to other costs.</p>
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		By: KMarko		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/06/28/survey-shows-growing-too-fast/#comment-106558</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 22:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Take note of the news accounts of the survey and how the survey takers at BSU bend over backwards to spin the results in a way favorable to more taxes to subsidize buses, other public transit and public-funded “low cost” (i.e. below market value) housing. Even though a plurality was against more taxes for buses, the big government hacks doing the survey wanted everyone to know that the public wasn’t completely foreclosing the idea. 

Typical push polling of the type politicians use, i.e. agenda-driven “data”, i.e. propaganda.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take note of the news accounts of the survey and how the survey takers at BSU bend over backwards to spin the results in a way favorable to more taxes to subsidize buses, other public transit and public-funded “low cost” (i.e. below market value) housing. Even though a plurality was against more taxes for buses, the big government hacks doing the survey wanted everyone to know that the public wasn’t completely foreclosing the idea. </p>
<p>Typical push polling of the type politicians use, i.e. agenda-driven “data”, i.e. propaganda.</p>
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		By: Kristiann Mannion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristiann Mannion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 21:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is the most cogent statement regarding the issue of growth that I have read.  Bravo!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the most cogent statement regarding the issue of growth that I have read.  Bravo!</p>
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