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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/07/06/big-brothers-ill-conceived-spy-cams/#comment-106659</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2019 20:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wrong again Forced Air. 

ACLU is the ONE national organization doing EXACTLY what you want done. 
 

The ACLU has written model legislation for local governments specifically focused on !!!!banning!!!! facial recognition.

Matt Cagle, an attorney at the ACLU of Northern California, was among the leaders of the campaign to ban facial recognition in San Francisco, which began last fall. 

Pretty good work for &#039;marxists&#039;, eh?
What does that say about you? 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/san-francisco-s-facial-recognition-ban-just-beginning-national-battle-n1007186]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong again Forced Air. </p>
<p>ACLU is the ONE national organization doing EXACTLY what you want done. </p>
<p>The ACLU has written model legislation for local governments specifically focused on !!!!banning!!!! facial recognition.</p>
<p>Matt Cagle, an attorney at the ACLU of Northern California, was among the leaders of the campaign to ban facial recognition in San Francisco, which began last fall. </p>
<p>Pretty good work for &#8216;marxists&#8217;, eh?<br />
What does that say about you? </p>
<p><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/san-francisco-s-facial-recognition-ban-just-beginning-national-battle-n1007186" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/san-francisco-s-facial-recognition-ban-just-beginning-national-battle-n1007186</a></p>
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		By: Forced Air		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/07/06/big-brothers-ill-conceived-spy-cams/#comment-106655</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Forced Air]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This whole concept to &quot;protect&quot; the employees at City Hall from UNNAMED alleged assailants is a thinly veiled Orwellian muzzle operation. 

We can only assume that more and more decisions made by the Council are being challenged (OMG!!!) by vocal members of the public and by restricting their access to public meetings or offices, Team Dave can move agendas forward without complaints directly. 

And I wouldn&#039;t count on the ACLU helping out. These days the ACLU Marxists are deciding in favor of limited free speech vs conservatives and independents because of &quot;wokeness&quot; and all. 

I agree, we need to see lists of &quot;undesirables.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole concept to &#8220;protect&#8221; the employees at City Hall from UNNAMED alleged assailants is a thinly veiled Orwellian muzzle operation. </p>
<p>We can only assume that more and more decisions made by the Council are being challenged (OMG!!!) by vocal members of the public and by restricting their access to public meetings or offices, Team Dave can move agendas forward without complaints directly. </p>
<p>And I wouldn&#8217;t count on the ACLU helping out. These days the ACLU Marxists are deciding in favor of limited free speech vs conservatives and independents because of &#8220;wokeness&#8221; and all. </p>
<p>I agree, we need to see lists of &#8220;undesirables.&#8221;</p>
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		By: western guy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/07/06/big-brothers-ill-conceived-spy-cams/#comment-106605</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[western guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2019 04:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Make masks of &#039;undesirables&#039; and wear them into City Hall.  Then there would be a &#039;no mask&#039; ordinance created.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make masks of &#8216;undesirables&#8217; and wear them into City Hall.  Then there would be a &#8216;no mask&#8217; ordinance created.</p>
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		By: the Dunderdee		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/07/06/big-brothers-ill-conceived-spy-cams/#comment-106604</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the Dunderdee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2019 02:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder if we all held Bill Islet&#039;s life sized photo, or the Vanishing Boise Lady&#039;s, or our dear editor Dave Frazier&#039;s for that matter, up on posters as we entered if the system would go haywire.  &quot;Alert -- a dozen threats entering building...&quot;  Maybe someone could make a buck selling them a the Flying M.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if we all held Bill Islet&#8217;s life sized photo, or the Vanishing Boise Lady&#8217;s, or our dear editor Dave Frazier&#8217;s for that matter, up on posters as we entered if the system would go haywire.  &#8220;Alert &#8212; a dozen threats entering building&#8230;&#8221;  Maybe someone could make a buck selling them a the Flying M.</p>
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		By: Erico49		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/07/06/big-brothers-ill-conceived-spy-cams/#comment-106601</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erico49]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2019 17:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rabula is right. It is reminiscent of Duh Dirk. Aside from that, it&#039;s expensive, unnecessary, silly, and loaded with potential abuse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabula is right. It is reminiscent of Duh Dirk. Aside from that, it&#8217;s expensive, unnecessary, silly, and loaded with potential abuse.</p>
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		By: western guy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/07/06/big-brothers-ill-conceived-spy-cams/#comment-106600</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[western guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2019 04:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No one has asked or said what the security response will be if/when the facial recognition software proclaims a hit:  swat team busting out of a nearby ready room; sirens sounding; crash doors at each department closing automatically, sealing in citizens (are they allowed in City Hall, still?) and employees?

Can anyone tell us WTF is going on in the minds of Team Dave (I include the City Council. here)?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one has asked or said what the security response will be if/when the facial recognition software proclaims a hit:  swat team busting out of a nearby ready room; sirens sounding; crash doors at each department closing automatically, sealing in citizens (are they allowed in City Hall, still?) and employees?</p>
<p>Can anyone tell us WTF is going on in the minds of Team Dave (I include the City Council. here)?</p>
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		By: Boise's very own No Fly List		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/07/06/big-brothers-ill-conceived-spy-cams/#comment-106599</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boise's very own No Fly List]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2019 02:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Been to the airport lately?  We&#039;ve all be feeding our facial identities into Facebook the DMV, Walmart cameras, and TSA for several years.  Our DNA with each blood draw.  Every phone call, text, internet packet etc. on earth is recorded in a NSA database.  Voice identity in seconds.  Fingerprints into the smartphone.  Driving habits into the car&#039;s OnStar tracker.  And so on and so on.  It is impossible to be off the grid.

As others have eluded, this City Hall system is going to be used for detecting more that just the angry ex.  They can buy a huge database that will ID everyone scanned.  Is it a paranoid administration looking for ways to track perceived adversaries?  Let&#039;s not forget the clandestine snooping and tracking they did during the F-35 arguments.  The wild-ass stuff written in preceding comments is all plausible and not so wild-ass these days.  The ability of the powerful few to abuse their power has never been greater.  I really do wonder are there lists of perceived opponents.  Is there a clandestine local social credit enforcement system?  I want a news reporter with integrity to find out.  Somebody honest in media please clear this up before it becomes the accepted norm.  I find it disturbing how so many of our academics and politicians speak fondly of China.  The technology comes from America.  Why does our government want to track us, why do we let them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XLnnLyx7nQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqqZEf4LJuw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPqKhgh9Mg
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a28210348/pentagon-heartbeat-laser-beams/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been to the airport lately?  We&#8217;ve all be feeding our facial identities into Facebook the DMV, Walmart cameras, and TSA for several years.  Our DNA with each blood draw.  Every phone call, text, internet packet etc. on earth is recorded in a NSA database.  Voice identity in seconds.  Fingerprints into the smartphone.  Driving habits into the car&#8217;s OnStar tracker.  And so on and so on.  It is impossible to be off the grid.</p>
<p>As others have eluded, this City Hall system is going to be used for detecting more that just the angry ex.  They can buy a huge database that will ID everyone scanned.  Is it a paranoid administration looking for ways to track perceived adversaries?  Let&#8217;s not forget the clandestine snooping and tracking they did during the F-35 arguments.  The wild-ass stuff written in preceding comments is all plausible and not so wild-ass these days.  The ability of the powerful few to abuse their power has never been greater.  I really do wonder are there lists of perceived opponents.  Is there a clandestine local social credit enforcement system?  I want a news reporter with integrity to find out.  Somebody honest in media please clear this up before it becomes the accepted norm.  I find it disturbing how so many of our academics and politicians speak fondly of China.  The technology comes from America.  Why does our government want to track us, why do we let them?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XLnnLyx7nQ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XLnnLyx7nQ</a><br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqqZEf4LJuw" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqqZEf4LJuw</a><br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPqKhgh9Mg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPqKhgh9Mg</a><br />
<a href="https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a28210348/pentagon-heartbeat-laser-beams/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a28210348/pentagon-heartbeat-laser-beams/</a></p>
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		By: Overbudgeted		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/07/06/big-brothers-ill-conceived-spy-cams/#comment-106598</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Overbudgeted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2019 00:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think they&#039;re just killing the statement so to speak.  They&#039;ve got to spend this money, and this probably falls under equipment and safety or something.  It is also possible there is information that causes them to want to look at the drivers license bureau.  The only guy I know of who can&#039;t go to city hall is the guy who told the CCDC director where he thought his head was, and that he was unethical, in a very direct way.  (Cannot quote it, but I am sure it is juicy.) Illegal immigration into the country finds a bottleneck at drivers license bureaus and illegal immigrants should expect some push-back and enforcement. 

Spokesman Mike called the current method analog.  I know what would be effective.  A digital pr avatar.  

Vote them all out. On principle that they work elsewhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they&#8217;re just killing the statement so to speak.  They&#8217;ve got to spend this money, and this probably falls under equipment and safety or something.  It is also possible there is information that causes them to want to look at the drivers license bureau.  The only guy I know of who can&#8217;t go to city hall is the guy who told the CCDC director where he thought his head was, and that he was unethical, in a very direct way.  (Cannot quote it, but I am sure it is juicy.) Illegal immigration into the country finds a bottleneck at drivers license bureaus and illegal immigrants should expect some push-back and enforcement. </p>
<p>Spokesman Mike called the current method analog.  I know what would be effective.  A digital pr avatar.  </p>
<p>Vote them all out. On principle that they work elsewhere.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2019/07/06/big-brothers-ill-conceived-spy-cams/#comment-106597</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jul 2019 16:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, BIG Brother (or something). 
And the biggest one is in Washington DC. 
from 2018: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/secret-service-tests-facial-recognition-surveillance-system-outside-white-house-n943536

This is happening at every level of government for enhanced security.  It already is, or will be soon, at schools, e.g. at the main entry - if the machine doesn&#039;t recognize the student/person - alert!  

All a bunch of Orwellian paranoia until it works as intended and saves lives, right? 

The bigger question is, &quot;Why are there such restraining orders protecting city employees?&quot;... oh yea, too many nut jobs walking around in the world and not enough effort to help people with mental illnesses. 

Ironic that liberal San Francisco is banning the use of it by the city and law enforcement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, BIG Brother (or something).<br />
And the biggest one is in Washington DC.<br />
from 2018: <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/secret-service-tests-facial-recognition-surveillance-system-outside-white-house-n943536" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/secret-service-tests-facial-recognition-surveillance-system-outside-white-house-n943536</a></p>
<p>This is happening at every level of government for enhanced security.  It already is, or will be soon, at schools, e.g. at the main entry &#8211; if the machine doesn&#8217;t recognize the student/person &#8211; alert!  </p>
<p>All a bunch of Orwellian paranoia until it works as intended and saves lives, right? </p>
<p>The bigger question is, &#8220;Why are there such restraining orders protecting city employees?&#8221;&#8230; oh yea, too many nut jobs walking around in the world and not enough effort to help people with mental illnesses. </p>
<p>Ironic that liberal San Francisco is banning the use of it by the city and law enforcement.</p>
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		By: Eamonn Harter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eamonn Harter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jul 2019 16:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just wear a ski mask if you have to go to City Hall.  Problem solved.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wear a ski mask if you have to go to City Hall.  Problem solved.</p>
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