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		By: Budget Shenanigans?		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/05/31/time-for-manifesto-logic-leadership/#comment-108176</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Budget Shenanigans?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2020 05:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the Mayor and Council truly support tax relief by not taking the 3% budget increase, then they need to make this choice mean something permanent by passing a Resolution to not &quot;claw-back&quot; any of the 3% in future years. This is allowed by State law. Otherwise this is just a temporary reprieve that will bite harder the second time around.

EDITOR NOTE--You are totally correct.  Problem is a sitting council cannot make a binding resolution for future elected officials.  Only the citizens have that right, as in spending matters like a bond debt.  The answer is at the legislature.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Mayor and Council truly support tax relief by not taking the 3% budget increase, then they need to make this choice mean something permanent by passing a Resolution to not &#8220;claw-back&#8221; any of the 3% in future years. This is allowed by State law. Otherwise this is just a temporary reprieve that will bite harder the second time around.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;You are totally correct.  Problem is a sitting council cannot make a binding resolution for future elected officials.  Only the citizens have that right, as in spending matters like a bond debt.  The answer is at the legislature.</p>
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		By: Porcupine		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/05/31/time-for-manifesto-logic-leadership/#comment-108173</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Porcupine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2020 17:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glad to see our Mayor came to her senses and not go for a 2% tax increase.... but any bets on a claw back coming in future years when this is all over?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see our Mayor came to her senses and not go for a 2% tax increase&#8230;. but any bets on a claw back coming in future years when this is all over?</p>
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		By: FunkHobo69		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/05/31/time-for-manifesto-logic-leadership/#comment-108172</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FunkHobo69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2020 01:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;INSTEAD, we’re actually getting better IMO. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />
we have a long way to go– sharing. caring. empathy. equality.
Yesterday’s Court ruling is an example of moving in the right direction (even if some churches disagree). Amen!&quot;

Sir, this is a Wendy&#039;s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;INSTEAD, we’re actually getting better IMO. 🙂<br />
we have a long way to go– sharing. caring. empathy. equality.<br />
Yesterday’s Court ruling is an example of moving in the right direction (even if some churches disagree). Amen!&#8221;</p>
<p>Sir, this is a Wendy&#8217;s.</p>
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		By: Afraid of Commies, not Change		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/05/31/time-for-manifesto-logic-leadership/#comment-108171</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Afraid of Commies, not Change]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 22:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A putrid manifesto from a small group of greedy power mongers who knows what&#039;s best for the rest of us. Bolsheviks! They see themselves and superior and the masses as inferior. The farther along their group thinking ferments the more it becomes like a farmer and livestock relationship. Our lives, that these golden few claim to care so much about, will have no value to them if we push out of our designated corral.

Clearly the nation is suffering idiots on all sides. It&#039;s hard to watch the utter stupidity coming from supposed smart people. Boise becoming a little mini-me of Portland is not a surprise. The cleanest way for the average guy to get the message through to Boise leaders is to minimize money spent in Boise. No need to announce intentions, just avoid Boise as much as possible. Would be nice to see Boise business owners move to someplace more appreciative of what it takes to be a successful small business. 

Governor and Legislature, you too can help by making annexation law tougher and area of impact taxes impossible. Striping money away from more and more people is the only way these liberal cities can survive. Many big US cities collect taxes an hour&#039;s drive outside the city limit to fund their failed city states. Please use the State power to stand in their way before these schemes come to Idaho.  And it&#039;s past due for the State to put a cap on municipal utility fees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A putrid manifesto from a small group of greedy power mongers who knows what&#8217;s best for the rest of us. Bolsheviks! They see themselves and superior and the masses as inferior. The farther along their group thinking ferments the more it becomes like a farmer and livestock relationship. Our lives, that these golden few claim to care so much about, will have no value to them if we push out of our designated corral.</p>
<p>Clearly the nation is suffering idiots on all sides. It&#8217;s hard to watch the utter stupidity coming from supposed smart people. Boise becoming a little mini-me of Portland is not a surprise. The cleanest way for the average guy to get the message through to Boise leaders is to minimize money spent in Boise. No need to announce intentions, just avoid Boise as much as possible. Would be nice to see Boise business owners move to someplace more appreciative of what it takes to be a successful small business. </p>
<p>Governor and Legislature, you too can help by making annexation law tougher and area of impact taxes impossible. Striping money away from more and more people is the only way these liberal cities can survive. Many big US cities collect taxes an hour&#8217;s drive outside the city limit to fund their failed city states. Please use the State power to stand in their way before these schemes come to Idaho.  And it&#8217;s past due for the State to put a cap on municipal utility fees.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/05/31/time-for-manifesto-logic-leadership/#comment-108170</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 16:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[bikeboy, good point of the family, friends, church changing over the generations.  

people no longer live near their parents and grandparents. Everyone can use help from a grandma.  

friends are more temporary with all the relocations due to employment. 

and people have seen the light to turn away from churches. 

Just look how many commenters on here are from California. Are they guilty and the cause of your point?   

And so we have evolved to use government to do things our social networks &#039;used to do&#039; more of?  Is that true?  

Let&#039;s look back: 

In the 1930&#039;s, were people &quot;voluntary support[ed] by extended family, friends, church, etc????
That was generations ago.  
And yet, the &quot;pre-socialism&quot; society still failed (before social security &#038; medicare, and SNAP, and city shelters). Race wars and social injustice were rampant in the US in the 40 and 50s too (back in the days good ol days?)- people went to church on Sunday and still behaved like trds Monday thru Saturday.  
So what is the change you regret?  

INSTEAD, we&#039;re actually getting better IMO.  :-) 
we have a long way to go-- sharing. caring. empathy. equality.  
Yesterday&#039;s Court ruling is an example of moving in the right direction (even if some churches disagree). Amen!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bikeboy, good point of the family, friends, church changing over the generations.  </p>
<p>people no longer live near their parents and grandparents. Everyone can use help from a grandma.  </p>
<p>friends are more temporary with all the relocations due to employment. </p>
<p>and people have seen the light to turn away from churches. </p>
<p>Just look how many commenters on here are from California. Are they guilty and the cause of your point?   </p>
<p>And so we have evolved to use government to do things our social networks &#8216;used to do&#8217; more of?  Is that true?  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look back: </p>
<p>In the 1930&#8217;s, were people &#8220;voluntary support[ed] by extended family, friends, church, etc????<br />
That was generations ago.<br />
And yet, the &#8220;pre-socialism&#8221; society still failed (before social security &amp; medicare, and SNAP, and city shelters). Race wars and social injustice were rampant in the US in the 40 and 50s too (back in the days good ol days?)- people went to church on Sunday and still behaved like trds Monday thru Saturday.<br />
So what is the change you regret?  </p>
<p>INSTEAD, we&#8217;re actually getting better IMO.  🙂<br />
we have a long way to go&#8211; sharing. caring. empathy. equality.<br />
Yesterday&#8217;s Court ruling is an example of moving in the right direction (even if some churches disagree). Amen!</p>
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		By: Idaho Spud		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/05/31/time-for-manifesto-logic-leadership/#comment-108169</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Idaho Spud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2020 17:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The only way Boise can save itself from what&#039;s going on in Portland and Seattle is for Boise residents to hold the new Mayor, the new Police Chief, and the City Council&#039;s feet to the fire and say no.  Whether people want to believe it or not, Antifa and other anarchist groups are already here.  They are just gathering and waiting. Ask yourself why did those other cities get that way?  By pandering to the lowest common denominator of society.  I am not against affordable housing (if it&#039;s done correctly) and some other things.  But anything that tries to turn Boise into a sanctuary for homeless or illegals or anarchist groups is a complete non-starter in my book.  As I said previously I&#039;m leaving anyway because Boise will fall prey to these things eventually, but in the meantime the elected officials running the city needs to be held to a lot higher standard than they ever have been.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way Boise can save itself from what&#8217;s going on in Portland and Seattle is for Boise residents to hold the new Mayor, the new Police Chief, and the City Council&#8217;s feet to the fire and say no.  Whether people want to believe it or not, Antifa and other anarchist groups are already here.  They are just gathering and waiting. Ask yourself why did those other cities get that way?  By pandering to the lowest common denominator of society.  I am not against affordable housing (if it&#8217;s done correctly) and some other things.  But anything that tries to turn Boise into a sanctuary for homeless or illegals or anarchist groups is a complete non-starter in my book.  As I said previously I&#8217;m leaving anyway because Boise will fall prey to these things eventually, but in the meantime the elected officials running the city needs to be held to a lot higher standard than they ever have been.</p>
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		By: Forced Air		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/05/31/time-for-manifesto-logic-leadership/#comment-108168</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Forced Air]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2020 02:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, as many of you might be aware of the world&#039;s newest nation, CHAZ or as some call it, Antifastan...I can tell you that as one who joined Occupy Boise in its beginnings and gave it a chance, I will state that the very reasons why I left is precisely that it began to emulate the anarchist folly that we see in Seattle and elsewhere. It began as an attempt to address legit issues and quickly descended into the identitarian hell that it became.

And now, the PC Bolsheviks are running this &quot;revolution&quot; that is gaining steam. City &quot;leaders&quot; are acquiescing in rapid fashion. The rules governing these enclaves are like electric diodes, the path only goes one way....deeper in. Rethinking strategy is tantamount to ceding ground back to their perception of the establishment, which is so ironic because our establishment has become a snake that eats its own tail.

Taxes have already been levied on CHAZ businesses and at some point, great demands will be placed on residents. People there are going to learn what the Soviet system that they MIGHT have read about in school looked like. They are begging for resources to be shipped from outside the CHAZ. They used up all the available food. When do they begin demanding residents&#039; for their food? When do they demand a catalog of personal property to be submitted to the CHAZ resource committee? When do they demand all grass lawns be converted to gardens? How many will that feed? 

Are there groups in Boise ready to replicate the same here?  

Animal Farm wasn&#039;t supposed to be a How To manual.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, as many of you might be aware of the world&#8217;s newest nation, CHAZ or as some call it, Antifastan&#8230;I can tell you that as one who joined Occupy Boise in its beginnings and gave it a chance, I will state that the very reasons why I left is precisely that it began to emulate the anarchist folly that we see in Seattle and elsewhere. It began as an attempt to address legit issues and quickly descended into the identitarian hell that it became.</p>
<p>And now, the PC Bolsheviks are running this &#8220;revolution&#8221; that is gaining steam. City &#8220;leaders&#8221; are acquiescing in rapid fashion. The rules governing these enclaves are like electric diodes, the path only goes one way&#8230;.deeper in. Rethinking strategy is tantamount to ceding ground back to their perception of the establishment, which is so ironic because our establishment has become a snake that eats its own tail.</p>
<p>Taxes have already been levied on CHAZ businesses and at some point, great demands will be placed on residents. People there are going to learn what the Soviet system that they MIGHT have read about in school looked like. They are begging for resources to be shipped from outside the CHAZ. They used up all the available food. When do they begin demanding residents&#8217; for their food? When do they demand a catalog of personal property to be submitted to the CHAZ resource committee? When do they demand all grass lawns be converted to gardens? How many will that feed? </p>
<p>Are there groups in Boise ready to replicate the same here?  </p>
<p>Animal Farm wasn&#8217;t supposed to be a How To manual.</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/05/31/time-for-manifesto-logic-leadership/#comment-108165</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bikeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2020 18:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A clarification about a previous (June 10) snide remark:

I am FULLY supportive of community support for underprivileged and poverty-stricken and otherwise &quot;challenged&quot; citizens... however, I regret that over the space of a couple generations, it&#039;s evolved from voluntary support extended by family, friends, church, etc. to a taxpayer-funded government entitlement, with no emotional reward for generosity, and not much room for gratitude from the recipients.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A clarification about a previous (June 10) snide remark:</p>
<p>I am FULLY supportive of community support for underprivileged and poverty-stricken and otherwise &#8220;challenged&#8221; citizens&#8230; however, I regret that over the space of a couple generations, it&#8217;s evolved from voluntary support extended by family, friends, church, etc. to a taxpayer-funded government entitlement, with no emotional reward for generosity, and not much room for gratitude from the recipients.</p>
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		By: Idaho Spud		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Idaho Spud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2020 02:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boise is screwed.  We were screwed with Bieter who was a puppet for the CCDC and a legend in his own mind, and now we are screwed with McLean who is a puppet of the SJW&#039;s who have infiltrated Boise.  Her so-called transition advisors were almost ALL  adovocates for the very same feel-good garbage that has been the ruination of every great city in the U.S.  Now she is going to import a police Chief from one of the most radical, hard left cities in the U.S. - Portland.  Where criminals run rampant in their downtown district unabated.  I have lived in Boise for 50 years and am getting out while the getting is good before the liberal locusts finish taking it down permanently. I&#039;ll be somewhere else before that happpens. Good luck, most of you don&#039;t know what&#039;s coming down the pike.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boise is screwed.  We were screwed with Bieter who was a puppet for the CCDC and a legend in his own mind, and now we are screwed with McLean who is a puppet of the SJW&#8217;s who have infiltrated Boise.  Her so-called transition advisors were almost ALL  adovocates for the very same feel-good garbage that has been the ruination of every great city in the U.S.  Now she is going to import a police Chief from one of the most radical, hard left cities in the U.S. &#8211; Portland.  Where criminals run rampant in their downtown district unabated.  I have lived in Boise for 50 years and am getting out while the getting is good before the liberal locusts finish taking it down permanently. I&#8217;ll be somewhere else before that happpens. Good luck, most of you don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s coming down the pike.</p>
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		By: Western guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Western guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2020 00:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I miss Dave and the power brokers in the North &#038; East end.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I miss Dave and the power brokers in the North &amp; East end.</p>
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