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		By: Oh no.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oh no.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2020 16:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The GBAD is for accommodating tourism.  Conferences and the like that stay in the city hotels.  

A 38 day baseball season will not work for GBAD.  Baseball needs to start and investment company where the highly paid, and I mean highly paid, players build stadiums for the minor leagues.  Why they haven&#039;t thought of it I don&#039;t know.  The losses would offset their other gains, and keep the pipeline full of superstars.  Create a way for players to travel, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GBAD is for accommodating tourism.  Conferences and the like that stay in the city hotels.  </p>
<p>A 38 day baseball season will not work for GBAD.  Baseball needs to start and investment company where the highly paid, and I mean highly paid, players build stadiums for the minor leagues.  Why they haven&#8217;t thought of it I don&#8217;t know.  The losses would offset their other gains, and keep the pipeline full of superstars.  Create a way for players to travel, too.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/08/22/gbad-has-illegal-meet-with-developer/#comment-108372</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 16:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[as of end of Nov 2019, GBAD had over 20million in cash &#039;surplus&#039;.   
MORE than enough to cover their annual expenses for a couple down/covid years.   

Their convention operating expenses exceed their convention revenues - but the GBAD tax exceeds their overall costs.   5% of lodging.  

Do they tax too much?  
that excess just builds up.  
much like the library issue, if not for legislative prevention, GBAD could just build their dang stadium.  

it will indeed be interesting to see the change in tax revenue due for 2020.  

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Abort GBAD and CCDC along with all URDs. 
Expand local-option taxes instead--&#062; revenue to the normal govt agencies.

EDITOR NOTE--Based on communication with GBAD staff, the info offered by Easterner  is not correct.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as of end of Nov 2019, GBAD had over 20million in cash &#8216;surplus&#8217;.<br />
MORE than enough to cover their annual expenses for a couple down/covid years.   </p>
<p>Their convention operating expenses exceed their convention revenues &#8211; but the GBAD tax exceeds their overall costs.   5% of lodging.  </p>
<p>Do they tax too much?<br />
that excess just builds up.<br />
much like the library issue, if not for legislative prevention, GBAD could just build their dang stadium.  </p>
<p>it will indeed be interesting to see the change in tax revenue due for 2020.  </p>
<p>#<br />
Abort GBAD and CCDC along with all URDs.<br />
Expand local-option taxes instead&#8211;&gt; revenue to the normal govt agencies.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Based on communication with GBAD staff, the info offered by Easterner  is not correct.</p>
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		By: GBAD Purpose		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GBAD Purpose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 03:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If GBAD were to be involved in a stadium, section 67–49 of Idaho Code requires an auditorium or community center district “to build, operate, maintain, market and manage for public, commercial and/or industrial purposes” any such endeavor undertaken.

They are not allowed to cherry-pick which of these responsibilities they wish to undertake, as ruled by the Supreme Court on the Pocatello Auditorium District. I don’t see how this would fit with a private ball team, as a major point of these semi-pro and pro teams is to make money, which would be severely limited if GBAD controls all aspects of such a facility.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If GBAD were to be involved in a stadium, section 67–49 of Idaho Code requires an auditorium or community center district “to build, operate, maintain, market and manage for public, commercial and/or industrial purposes” any such endeavor undertaken.</p>
<p>They are not allowed to cherry-pick which of these responsibilities they wish to undertake, as ruled by the Supreme Court on the Pocatello Auditorium District. I don’t see how this would fit with a private ball team, as a major point of these semi-pro and pro teams is to make money, which would be severely limited if GBAD controls all aspects of such a facility.</p>
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		By: xx		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/08/22/gbad-has-illegal-meet-with-developer/#comment-108369</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 23:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Easterner - just because one may be a developer and have property to develop does not mean you get to sit in on other Executive Sessions involving other property deals. The law does not work that way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easterner &#8211; just because one may be a developer and have property to develop does not mean you get to sit in on other Executive Sessions involving other property deals. The law does not work that way.</p>
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		By: Public voice		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Public voice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 21:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So all of this hand ringing about using tax payers dollars to pay for a stadium is obviously coming from people who don’t understand where the tax money is coming from... GBAD income is from Hotel tax... how many local Boise / Garden City residents are staying in hotels and paying the hotel tax... so explain to me how the “taxpayer” is being charged... unless you are against using funds that GBAD taxes the Visitors to the area to help build attractions that bring more visitors and people to spend money in our communities... I’m pretty sure that is THE WHOLE REASON that GBAD exists.  
Love these message boards filled with people who don’t have any vision of growth... or hey let’s build another garden because that’s what families want to do on the weekends ... really 13 years of asking for a heritage garden... I bet that will bring a ton of new economic incentives/ jobs and taxes to our community... 
100% in favor of dynamic new vision that brings real sports besides BSU football and entertainment to the valley…

EDITOR NOTE--The hotel room tax money is OURS--the citizens of the district.  You don&#039;t have to smoke or drink to benefit from tobacco and booze taxes.  You don&#039;t have to drive a car to benefit from gas tax.  GBAD has no excess cash to spend.  They are way below normal revenue levels thanks to COVID and empty rooms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So all of this hand ringing about using tax payers dollars to pay for a stadium is obviously coming from people who don’t understand where the tax money is coming from&#8230; GBAD income is from Hotel tax&#8230; how many local Boise / Garden City residents are staying in hotels and paying the hotel tax&#8230; so explain to me how the “taxpayer” is being charged&#8230; unless you are against using funds that GBAD taxes the Visitors to the area to help build attractions that bring more visitors and people to spend money in our communities&#8230; I’m pretty sure that is THE WHOLE REASON that GBAD exists.<br />
Love these message boards filled with people who don’t have any vision of growth&#8230; or hey let’s build another garden because that’s what families want to do on the weekends &#8230; really 13 years of asking for a heritage garden&#8230; I bet that will bring a ton of new economic incentives/ jobs and taxes to our community&#8230;<br />
100% in favor of dynamic new vision that brings real sports besides BSU football and entertainment to the valley…</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;The hotel room tax money is OURS&#8211;the citizens of the district.  You don&#8217;t have to smoke or drink to benefit from tobacco and booze taxes.  You don&#8217;t have to drive a car to benefit from gas tax.  GBAD has no excess cash to spend.  They are way below normal revenue levels thanks to COVID and empty rooms.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 21:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[to the NOTE above-- if it was Executive Session to discuss property (a known exemption to a public discussion) it seems reasonable  Ahl and/or Greenstone would be there.  I don&#039;t get where it&#039;s illegal.  

It might be bad form, but nothing here or in the BoiDev piece to show that.  

EDITOR NOTE--The &quot;property&quot; subject to the executive session  was not owned by Ahlquist/Greenstone nor was it owned by GBAD.  The property in the executive session way adjacent to the convention center downtown!!  
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to the NOTE above&#8211; if it was Executive Session to discuss property (a known exemption to a public discussion) it seems reasonable  Ahl and/or Greenstone would be there.  I don&#8217;t get where it&#8217;s illegal.  </p>
<p>It might be bad form, but nothing here or in the BoiDev piece to show that.  </p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;The &#8220;property&#8221; subject to the executive session  was not owned by Ahlquist/Greenstone nor was it owned by GBAD.  The property in the executive session way adjacent to the convention center downtown!!  </p>
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		By: xx		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 20:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There should be no &quot;pitches&quot; for any development ideas right now while the whole idea is suppose to be in the exploratory phase. The Citizen Advisory Committee for this task has their third meeting this Wed. August 26 at 5:30pm. Anyone can watch or ask questions via the virtual YouTube and Facebook options. Or send comments now to : expoidahocac@adacounty.id.gov

Just because you can build in a flood plain doesn’t mean you should. It ends up being a stupid human decision, just as building in the wildland urban interface is proving to be. Nothing destroys lives faster than a natural disaster.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There should be no &#8220;pitches&#8221; for any development ideas right now while the whole idea is suppose to be in the exploratory phase. The Citizen Advisory Committee for this task has their third meeting this Wed. August 26 at 5:30pm. Anyone can watch or ask questions via the virtual YouTube and Facebook options. Or send comments now to : <a href="mailto:expoidahocac@adacounty.id.gov">expoidahocac@adacounty.id.gov</a></p>
<p>Just because you can build in a flood plain doesn’t mean you should. It ends up being a stupid human decision, just as building in the wildland urban interface is proving to be. Nothing destroys lives faster than a natural disaster.</p>
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		By: Clever Developer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clever Developer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not fooled. . . put single family homes in the designated flood plain so that the construction costs are higher for this type of housing, plus these properties will bear the cost of higher insurance premiums as flood insurance will be required.

Put the apartments outside of the flood plain so a Real Estate Investment Trust is not prohibited from making as much money as possible off of this hot investment product, while also being able to use the public park to satisfy the amenities requirement to save on costs, while simultaneously being able to add more units to boost the profit margin.

Keep Lady Bird Park near the noisy intersection to save on relocation costs, as the 2009 Collier’s Report recommended relocation near the Green Belt, and this allows stadium events to spill over into this area with vendors who will also profit off the public land. 

Relocate the green belt to be sure the recreationalists are forced to go by the “Promenade” of mixed-use businesses, while the playing fields will also provide plenty of spenders to support the almighty dollar.

Make it nearly impossible to actually hold the fair here so that later it can be reasoned that it just does not work any longer and it needs to be relocated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not fooled. . . put single family homes in the designated flood plain so that the construction costs are higher for this type of housing, plus these properties will bear the cost of higher insurance premiums as flood insurance will be required.</p>
<p>Put the apartments outside of the flood plain so a Real Estate Investment Trust is not prohibited from making as much money as possible off of this hot investment product, while also being able to use the public park to satisfy the amenities requirement to save on costs, while simultaneously being able to add more units to boost the profit margin.</p>
<p>Keep Lady Bird Park near the noisy intersection to save on relocation costs, as the 2009 Collier’s Report recommended relocation near the Green Belt, and this allows stadium events to spill over into this area with vendors who will also profit off the public land. </p>
<p>Relocate the green belt to be sure the recreationalists are forced to go by the “Promenade” of mixed-use businesses, while the playing fields will also provide plenty of spenders to support the almighty dollar.</p>
<p>Make it nearly impossible to actually hold the fair here so that later it can be reasoned that it just does not work any longer and it needs to be relocated.</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They will have more &quot;illegal&quot; meetings because no one ever holds them accountable for doing so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They will have more &#8220;illegal&#8221; meetings because no one ever holds them accountable for doing so.</p>
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		By: Voter		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/08/22/gbad-has-illegal-meet-with-developer/#comment-108362</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Voter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The almighty &quot;Alquist the public leach&quot; feeds on handouts from the public agencies. Have you noticed how often he builds in a &quot;redevelopment zone&quot;?

Just like in the downtown Boise project the city paid for the entire foundation of his building  - in the form of a bus station. What a way to get a part of your building built for FREE. Then you charge market rates and make a huge margin!!

Please say NO to this leach.

EDITOR NOTE--The Paylocity group of buildings at 10 Mile and I-84 were built in a cornfield that was declared an urban renewal zone in Meridian.  Bottom line is they pay no taxes to city, county, ACHD, West Ada Schools.  Their taxes all go to urban renewal district. Huge burden on citizens!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The almighty &#8220;Alquist the public leach&#8221; feeds on handouts from the public agencies. Have you noticed how often he builds in a &#8220;redevelopment zone&#8221;?</p>
<p>Just like in the downtown Boise project the city paid for the entire foundation of his building  &#8211; in the form of a bus station. What a way to get a part of your building built for FREE. Then you charge market rates and make a huge margin!!</p>
<p>Please say NO to this leach.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;The Paylocity group of buildings at 10 Mile and I-84 were built in a cornfield that was declared an urban renewal zone in Meridian.  Bottom line is they pay no taxes to city, county, ACHD, West Ada Schools.  Their taxes all go to urban renewal district. Huge burden on citizens!</p>
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