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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/10/22/developer-violates-campaign-limits/#comment-108535</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2020 19:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[that would be weak venom. 
Not as potent as the ballot. :)  
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Congrats to Ms. Pickering (if the results hold)!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that would be weak venom.<br />
Not as potent as the ballot. 🙂<br />
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Congrats to Ms. Pickering (if the results hold)!</p>
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		By: Rebecca Arnold		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/10/22/developer-violates-campaign-limits/#comment-108528</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebecca Arnold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2020 22:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My my Easterner! Aren&#039;t you venomous! But then you are hiding behind a fake name so that must give you &quot;courage&quot;...Clearly you are quite biased so it is really pointless to respond. 

I do find it interesting that only Republican candidates were targeted.  And it seems Mr Clancy gave a pass to a Democrat in the last ACHD race who happened to be a Democrat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My my Easterner! Aren&#8217;t you venomous! But then you are hiding behind a fake name so that must give you &#8220;courage&#8221;&#8230;Clearly you are quite biased so it is really pointless to respond. </p>
<p>I do find it interesting that only Republican candidates were targeted.  And it seems Mr Clancy gave a pass to a Democrat in the last ACHD race who happened to be a Democrat.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/10/22/developer-violates-campaign-limits/#comment-108527</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2020 20:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh wow.  What a story Ms Arnold. 

Weird that C. Anderson was able to do what you (an attorney) were not able to [did not] do.  
And still stating that is impossible- yet he did it and it&#039;s not even within his &quot;job&quot; or legal requirement to do so. Clancy must be a magician?  
He did it--- and you&#039;re still saying it&#039;s impossible for a candidate to do it. 

One might also ask why McGrane was not the one to discover it.  So, what purpose are the Sunshine Reports anyway? No review, no enforcement. Par for the course though, and just another reason why citizens don&#039;t trust our elected officials.    

So your statement of &quot;ownership is not public&quot;  - that is just FALSE and you as an attorney and real estate attorney know it. This point has surfaced even here on BG several times.  
  
Secondly your statement of &quot;whether entities fall under the statute&quot; is also wrong.  As stated in sub(a) above- entities do fall under the statute- a candidate simply needs to identify the respective owner. Not too difficult. How many campaigns? Including a judgeship?      

&quot;Alleged to be over the limit&quot;. 
&quot;I have no way of knowing&quot;.   
Again- wow!  It&#039;s like a Giuliani explanation: &#039;I mailed back $3,000 but I&#039;m not sure if $3,000 is over the $1,000 limit , and I don&#039;t even know who I mailed it to.&#039; 

Experience says, &quot;Hey, an unexpected check from a business I don&#039;t know&quot;  I should call them and see who is sending me money- and WHY.&quot;   
A lame politician would say, &quot;Great, take it to the bank and expect no one will question it.&quot; 

It is difficult to find fault with a regular contributor.  It is very easy to find fault with a candidate/treasurer.   
Pretty sure it is NOT up the P. McGrane to decide if further action is needed. That would be at the prosecutor office (AG in this case).  

But when the official response IF IF IF IF caught is &#039;just return the money&#039;- then why the heck would any politician be concerned about this insignificant law? 

Since we can&#039;t trust our officials to do the right thing, there is no reason to believe anything will come from this story.  Hopefully Alexis Pickering is elected- time for young fresh ideas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow.  What a story Ms Arnold. </p>
<p>Weird that C. Anderson was able to do what you (an attorney) were not able to [did not] do.<br />
And still stating that is impossible- yet he did it and it&#8217;s not even within his &#8220;job&#8221; or legal requirement to do so. Clancy must be a magician?<br />
He did it&#8212; and you&#8217;re still saying it&#8217;s impossible for a candidate to do it. </p>
<p>One might also ask why McGrane was not the one to discover it.  So, what purpose are the Sunshine Reports anyway? No review, no enforcement. Par for the course though, and just another reason why citizens don&#8217;t trust our elected officials.    </p>
<p>So your statement of &#8220;ownership is not public&#8221;  &#8211; that is just FALSE and you as an attorney and real estate attorney know it. This point has surfaced even here on BG several times.  </p>
<p>Secondly your statement of &#8220;whether entities fall under the statute&#8221; is also wrong.  As stated in sub(a) above- entities do fall under the statute- a candidate simply needs to identify the respective owner. Not too difficult. How many campaigns? Including a judgeship?      </p>
<p>&#8220;Alleged to be over the limit&#8221;.<br />
&#8220;I have no way of knowing&#8221;.<br />
Again- wow!  It&#8217;s like a Giuliani explanation: &#8216;I mailed back $3,000 but I&#8217;m not sure if $3,000 is over the $1,000 limit , and I don&#8217;t even know who I mailed it to.&#8217; </p>
<p>Experience says, &#8220;Hey, an unexpected check from a business I don&#8217;t know&#8221;  I should call them and see who is sending me money- and WHY.&#8221;<br />
A lame politician would say, &#8220;Great, take it to the bank and expect no one will question it.&#8221; </p>
<p>It is difficult to find fault with a regular contributor.  It is very easy to find fault with a candidate/treasurer.<br />
Pretty sure it is NOT up the P. McGrane to decide if further action is needed. That would be at the prosecutor office (AG in this case).  </p>
<p>But when the official response IF IF IF IF caught is &#8216;just return the money&#8217;- then why the heck would any politician be concerned about this insignificant law? </p>
<p>Since we can&#8217;t trust our officials to do the right thing, there is no reason to believe anything will come from this story.  Hopefully Alexis Pickering is elected- time for young fresh ideas.</p>
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		By: Rebecca Arnold		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/10/22/developer-violates-campaign-limits/#comment-108526</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebecca Arnold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2020 05:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Easterner:  There was no &quot;ask&quot; in this instance. The questioned contributions came to my campaign unsolicited from entities with whom I was not familiar.  Ownership of privately held corporations and LLC&#039;s is generally not public so it would be difficult for a candidate to determine whether entities fall under the statute(Phil McGrane at the elections office made that point).  Immediately upon receiving a phone call from Phil McGrane on October 21, 2020 about 4:15pm, checks were written to refund the contributions alleged to be over the limit. I have no way of knowing whether the questioned contributions exceed the limit or not, but I chose to refund them anyway.  Phil McGrane at the elections office has confirmed that no further action is necessary.  I seriously doubt that the owners intended to do anything improper.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easterner:  There was no &#8220;ask&#8221; in this instance. The questioned contributions came to my campaign unsolicited from entities with whom I was not familiar.  Ownership of privately held corporations and LLC&#8217;s is generally not public so it would be difficult for a candidate to determine whether entities fall under the statute(Phil McGrane at the elections office made that point).  Immediately upon receiving a phone call from Phil McGrane on October 21, 2020 about 4:15pm, checks were written to refund the contributions alleged to be over the limit. I have no way of knowing whether the questioned contributions exceed the limit or not, but I chose to refund them anyway.  Phil McGrane at the elections office has confirmed that no further action is necessary.  I seriously doubt that the owners intended to do anything improper.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/10/22/developer-violates-campaign-limits/#comment-108516</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2020 18:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; who is the violator&quot;?

One can&#039;t really expect a donor to know all the rules.    

One CAN expect a candidate&#039;s Treasurer to know the rules.  As they are required to do so to file the reports. 

One CAN expect a candidate to know who is giving them money and why- certainly for large amounts.  I would expect a local candidate to know EVERY donor of a $1,000.  right?  how else are they going to reciprocate with favorable commission decisions.
  
AND the 1 person here that is BOTH candidate and TREASURER for their campaign is Rebecca Arnold.  An attorney.  A former CPA.  A long-time candidate. An incumbent.   = GUILTY.  NO EXCUSE for her not knowing. She knows the rules, she files the reports, she deposits the checks, she &#039;should&#039; be sending TY notes, she likely did &#039;the ask&#039;. 
  
The AG should press charges against Arnold to make a statement- even for the measly $250 fine.  

And then in 2021 the legislature should clarify who is the violator in future instances.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; who is the violator&#8221;?</p>
<p>One can&#8217;t really expect a donor to know all the rules.    </p>
<p>One CAN expect a candidate&#8217;s Treasurer to know the rules.  As they are required to do so to file the reports. </p>
<p>One CAN expect a candidate to know who is giving them money and why- certainly for large amounts.  I would expect a local candidate to know EVERY donor of a $1,000.  right?  how else are they going to reciprocate with favorable commission decisions.</p>
<p>AND the 1 person here that is BOTH candidate and TREASURER for their campaign is Rebecca Arnold.  An attorney.  A former CPA.  A long-time candidate. An incumbent.   = GUILTY.  NO EXCUSE for her not knowing. She knows the rules, she files the reports, she deposits the checks, she &#8216;should&#8217; be sending TY notes, she likely did &#8216;the ask&#8217;. </p>
<p>The AG should press charges against Arnold to make a statement- even for the measly $250 fine.  </p>
<p>And then in 2021 the legislature should clarify who is the violator in future instances.</p>
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		By: xx		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/10/22/developer-violates-campaign-limits/#comment-108506</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2020 02:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pretyy sure Conger knows better - but why not just try.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretyy sure Conger knows better &#8211; but why not just try.</p>
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		By: Jo Jo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/10/22/developer-violates-campaign-limits/#comment-108501</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jo Jo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2020 16:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!  -- Captain Renault, Casablanca

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

Just saying, this really surprises anyone?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!  &#8212; Captain Renault, Casablanca</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME</a></p>
<p>Just saying, this really surprises anyone?</p>
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		By: WatchingBoiseExplode		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/10/22/developer-violates-campaign-limits/#comment-108495</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WatchingBoiseExplode]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2020 00:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You want Boise to be California?  Keep voting for Rebecca Arnold and her minions

More Traffic Jams and misery]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want Boise to be California?  Keep voting for Rebecca Arnold and her minions</p>
<p>More Traffic Jams and misery</p>
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		By: Pseudosuze		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/10/22/developer-violates-campaign-limits/#comment-108494</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pseudosuze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2020 19:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well done!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done!</p>
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