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		By: Forced Air		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2020 15:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well....there goes the Constitution. And I just love how the tyrants like the Power Freak at the top of this comment board are applauding the end of the Republic. The Supreme court COULD have very well asked for a technical remedies to this &quot;pandemic&quot; ...but they just decided to remove our rights. The elites have found their foil to lock us from life...a virus.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;.there goes the Constitution. And I just love how the tyrants like the Power Freak at the top of this comment board are applauding the end of the Republic. The Supreme court COULD have very well asked for a technical remedies to this &#8220;pandemic&#8221; &#8230;but they just decided to remove our rights. The elites have found their foil to lock us from life&#8230;a virus.</p>
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		By: Taxed Out!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Taxed Out!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2020 13:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe the suspension of Jury Trials is designed to protect jurors from exposure to the virus. The jury process doesn’t lend itself to Zoom. The process requires a body of people brought together to debate the facts produced at trial and reach a verdict. Distractions are limited during a trial as a matter of necessity to insure that the decision is based on the facts produced at trial and not based on someone’s tweet or opinion.

 Those who believe the Constitution is a black and white set of rules governing everything in our lives have little understanding of our history or the Constitution. Just because the document doesn’t contain a pandemic amendment, does not mean government (which is nothing more than the collective consciousness of the people) cannot respond to a pandemic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the suspension of Jury Trials is designed to protect jurors from exposure to the virus. The jury process doesn’t lend itself to Zoom. The process requires a body of people brought together to debate the facts produced at trial and reach a verdict. Distractions are limited during a trial as a matter of necessity to insure that the decision is based on the facts produced at trial and not based on someone’s tweet or opinion.</p>
<p> Those who believe the Constitution is a black and white set of rules governing everything in our lives have little understanding of our history or the Constitution. Just because the document doesn’t contain a pandemic amendment, does not mean government (which is nothing more than the collective consciousness of the people) cannot respond to a pandemic.</p>
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		By: Blowhard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blowhard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nate,  You believe you are special and the people give a crap what you think.  Nope, most people don&#039;t.  

This problem is not well adapted to a simple point counterpoint argument format often used in low IQ media entertainment productions.  Real life  problem resolution often is a compromise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate,  You believe you are special and the people give a crap what you think.  Nope, most people don&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>This problem is not well adapted to a simple point counterpoint argument format often used in low IQ media entertainment productions.  Real life  problem resolution often is a compromise.</p>
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		By: Nate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2020 04:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Forgot to mention... I am one, who does not think jury duty is annoying.  I think it is a cherished constitutional right, whereby, regular citizens can overrule the state, if they deem the charges to be false in nature.  IDK, maybe a thought on checking the state is outdated these days.  I hope not.

Much love to the Guardian for all they do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to mention&#8230; I am one, who does not think jury duty is annoying.  I think it is a cherished constitutional right, whereby, regular citizens can overrule the state, if they deem the charges to be false in nature.  IDK, maybe a thought on checking the state is outdated these days.  I hope not.</p>
<p>Much love to the Guardian for all they do.</p>
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		By: Nate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2020 04:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello all I appreciate your comments...not speaking sarcastically.  I wish we all could have more discussions of open thoughts to discuss contraries of opinion, without fear of ridicule...while I disagree with some of your thoughts, I respect all of you for the discussion.

That being said, I spoke with a local Senator about this...I&#039;ll redact his name because it is off the record in nature...

Nate,

Yes, things are going well.  I do think that the courts are acting contrary to the constitution.  Let&#039;s visit again.  When would be good?


_____


On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 5:21 PM nate wrote:

Hello Senator ____, I hope all is well with you and your family, sir.


A lot has happened in the world since our last correspondence!  


I came across this and, if you have time, I was wondering  if I can hear your thoughts on the Idaho Supremes essentially suspending jury trials because of Covid. (link below)


https://adacounty.id.gov/judicial-court/wp-content/uploads/sites/60/ISC-Order-Re-Commencement-of-Jury-Trials-11-9-20.pdf


Wouldn&#039;t the US Constitution Trump such order?  Seems pretty serious to me.


Talk soon.


Nate]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all I appreciate your comments&#8230;not speaking sarcastically.  I wish we all could have more discussions of open thoughts to discuss contraries of opinion, without fear of ridicule&#8230;while I disagree with some of your thoughts, I respect all of you for the discussion.</p>
<p>That being said, I spoke with a local Senator about this&#8230;I&#8217;ll redact his name because it is off the record in nature&#8230;</p>
<p>Nate,</p>
<p>Yes, things are going well.  I do think that the courts are acting contrary to the constitution.  Let&#8217;s visit again.  When would be good?</p>
<p>_____</p>
<p>On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 5:21 PM nate wrote:</p>
<p>Hello Senator ____, I hope all is well with you and your family, sir.</p>
<p>A lot has happened in the world since our last correspondence!  </p>
<p>I came across this and, if you have time, I was wondering  if I can hear your thoughts on the Idaho Supremes essentially suspending jury trials because of Covid. (link below)</p>
<p><a href="https://adacounty.id.gov/judicial-court/wp-content/uploads/sites/60/ISC-Order-Re-Commencement-of-Jury-Trials-11-9-20.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://adacounty.id.gov/judicial-court/wp-content/uploads/sites/60/ISC-Order-Re-Commencement-of-Jury-Trials-11-9-20.pdf</a></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t the US Constitution Trump such order?  Seems pretty serious to me.</p>
<p>Talk soon.</p>
<p>Nate</p>
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		By: FAUX Easterner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2020 19:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[History has proven that a trial by jury is a slap in the face of justice. Look how often juries have got it Wrong!! Other countries have gone to juries with a judge in the jury room, a panel of judges, or bench trials only. 
We need to have Betsy Russell weigh in in this one. What can Idaho legislators or Betsy herself do to help with what the Idaho supremes have done?!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f637.png" alt="😷" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History has proven that a trial by jury is a slap in the face of justice. Look how often juries have got it Wrong!! Other countries have gone to juries with a judge in the jury room, a panel of judges, or bench trials only.<br />
We need to have Betsy Russell weigh in in this one. What can Idaho legislators or Betsy herself do to help with what the Idaho supremes have done?!😷</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nate, apparently a well experienced lawyer and  the next IDAHO Supreme Court justice replacement, is a big part of our current pandemic problem. 
Let&#039;s all thank Nate.  Thanks Nate!

And in our next season of Hoax Reality TV, it will be the battle of &quot;Nate vs The Idaho Supreme Court Chief Justice&quot;. 

###
Nate, how about if you personally go to the Twin Falls St. Luke&#039;s hospital and tell ALL those medical care workers (doctors, nurse, admin, EMS, firefighters, etc) THEY are just forcing you to &#039;give up freedom and your rights&#039;?  Can you tell THEM personally that they are just believing &#039;anything&#039; and they have been fleeced?  

And while you are at it, go talk to the patients too- be sure to tell em about your calculation of 99% survivability. I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll appreciate your expert knowledge.   
 
And when someone in TF has a heart- attack and can&#039;t get immediate medical care because their nearby hospital is full-- and 1/3 of the existing patients, are there --- due to people like you, YOU will be the one to tell them &#039;be brave&#039;, right Nate?  Be sure to talk with the family members too about your mantra.   I&#039;m sure they need the emotional comfort from YOU Nate. 

 
https://www.kivitv.com/news/as-covid-19-cases-surge-one-of-idahos-largest-hospitals-had-to-temporarily-stop-taking-patients]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate, apparently a well experienced lawyer and  the next IDAHO Supreme Court justice replacement, is a big part of our current pandemic problem.<br />
Let&#8217;s all thank Nate.  Thanks Nate!</p>
<p>And in our next season of Hoax Reality TV, it will be the battle of &#8220;Nate vs The Idaho Supreme Court Chief Justice&#8221;. </p>
<p>###<br />
Nate, how about if you personally go to the Twin Falls St. Luke&#8217;s hospital and tell ALL those medical care workers (doctors, nurse, admin, EMS, firefighters, etc) THEY are just forcing you to &#8216;give up freedom and your rights&#8217;?  Can you tell THEM personally that they are just believing &#8216;anything&#8217; and they have been fleeced?  </p>
<p>And while you are at it, go talk to the patients too- be sure to tell em about your calculation of 99% survivability. I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll appreciate your expert knowledge.   </p>
<p>And when someone in TF has a heart- attack and can&#8217;t get immediate medical care because their nearby hospital is full&#8211; and 1/3 of the existing patients, are there &#8212; due to people like you, YOU will be the one to tell them &#8216;be brave&#8217;, right Nate?  Be sure to talk with the family members too about your mantra.   I&#8217;m sure they need the emotional comfort from YOU Nate. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.kivitv.com/news/as-covid-19-cases-surge-one-of-idahos-largest-hospitals-had-to-temporarily-stop-taking-patients" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.kivitv.com/news/as-covid-19-cases-surge-one-of-idahos-largest-hospitals-had-to-temporarily-stop-taking-patients</a></p>
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		By: Nope		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2020 01:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nate, Nope, I don&#039;t believe your beliefs.  The ICU is not overfull because of propaganda.  The refrigerator trucks are not for storing propaganda.  Yes agree, when you really believe something it&#039;s hard to admit errors.  Do look in the mirror Nate, you are wrong on this covid issue.

As for court order.  I think the speedy jury trial problem can be overcome while preserving rights And being covid safe.  Yes the third option Nate.  It&#039;s puzzling why the court did this.  The entire world is operating remotely on electronics.  Why not a jury system too?  Maybe decided by an old duffer who refuses to learn computers?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate, Nope, I don&#8217;t believe your beliefs.  The ICU is not overfull because of propaganda.  The refrigerator trucks are not for storing propaganda.  Yes agree, when you really believe something it&#8217;s hard to admit errors.  Do look in the mirror Nate, you are wrong on this covid issue.</p>
<p>As for court order.  I think the speedy jury trial problem can be overcome while preserving rights And being covid safe.  Yes the third option Nate.  It&#8217;s puzzling why the court did this.  The entire world is operating remotely on electronics.  Why not a jury system too?  Maybe decided by an old duffer who refuses to learn computers?</p>
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		By: Nate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2020 23:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your response Boise Lawyer...and Thanks to the Guardian for bringing this to our attention. 

Respectfully,

Driving is not a Constitutional right, isn&#039;t it a privilege, or so they say?  And, I&#039;ve heard this argument before, and I think it is lacking in proper parallels.  As a matter of fact, I believe the driving rules to be fairly adequate as most people do.

That being said, 

Car Crashes aren&#039;t being used as a predicate to &quot;lockdown&quot; major swaths of our civilization. 
Car Crashes are not being used to unconstitutionally remove peoples rights to assemble, at church, or otherwise... 
Car Crashes are not being used to &quot;suspend&quot; trial by jury. (I will be reaching out to some state reps) 
Car Crashes are not being used to create many trillions of dollars to bailout mostly big biz/gov. and to give a small payoff as a penance to the small guy who&#039;s job was just destroyed.

Have you not seen what&#039;s been going on in the rest of the world?  The governments of Australia, England, Italy, and many other are imposing these draconian lockdowns and forcibly putting masks on people?  It is inherently wrong for a government to do this.

Some in this country are trying to cancel our most cherished holidays.  Tell us how many family members we are allowed to be in the same room with.  There has been a call to ban &quot;dirty virus spreading&quot; cash and to push us into digital currencies that are easier to manipulate.  Theres been talks of forcibly vaccinating people.  All the while, the fabric of our society is being destroyed.  

Physical social interactions are an important part of humanity.  Propaganda has completely scared people into thinking they&#039;re going to die, or if they don&#039;t follow &quot;proper protocols&quot; (that are a false sense of security), they will kill someone unknowingly.  And here comes the government, reliably keeping people safe for 1000&#039;s of years.  The Constitution put handcuffs on government for a reason.

And anyone who independently looks at the data and digs through info and history, and questions the narrative... why they are dismissed as subhuman with no love for others, by those who have been told what to say and blindly do, by celebrities and pop stars..  Pretty clever really.

Why can&#039;t we question this, which is so obviously created by those with $ who want more power, to further an end that to them might justify the means.

On a final note.  Question everything.  Do your own research.  Don&#039;t let your belief system blind you. 
(I promise to follow all of these rules as well)

No more &quot;Be Safe&quot;... Time to speak out and &quot;Be brave&quot;  --N]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your response Boise Lawyer&#8230;and Thanks to the Guardian for bringing this to our attention. </p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>Driving is not a Constitutional right, isn&#8217;t it a privilege, or so they say?  And, I&#8217;ve heard this argument before, and I think it is lacking in proper parallels.  As a matter of fact, I believe the driving rules to be fairly adequate as most people do.</p>
<p>That being said, </p>
<p>Car Crashes aren&#8217;t being used as a predicate to &#8220;lockdown&#8221; major swaths of our civilization.<br />
Car Crashes are not being used to unconstitutionally remove peoples rights to assemble, at church, or otherwise&#8230;<br />
Car Crashes are not being used to &#8220;suspend&#8221; trial by jury. (I will be reaching out to some state reps)<br />
Car Crashes are not being used to create many trillions of dollars to bailout mostly big biz/gov. and to give a small payoff as a penance to the small guy who&#8217;s job was just destroyed.</p>
<p>Have you not seen what&#8217;s been going on in the rest of the world?  The governments of Australia, England, Italy, and many other are imposing these draconian lockdowns and forcibly putting masks on people?  It is inherently wrong for a government to do this.</p>
<p>Some in this country are trying to cancel our most cherished holidays.  Tell us how many family members we are allowed to be in the same room with.  There has been a call to ban &#8220;dirty virus spreading&#8221; cash and to push us into digital currencies that are easier to manipulate.  Theres been talks of forcibly vaccinating people.  All the while, the fabric of our society is being destroyed.  </p>
<p>Physical social interactions are an important part of humanity.  Propaganda has completely scared people into thinking they&#8217;re going to die, or if they don&#8217;t follow &#8220;proper protocols&#8221; (that are a false sense of security), they will kill someone unknowingly.  And here comes the government, reliably keeping people safe for 1000&#8217;s of years.  The Constitution put handcuffs on government for a reason.</p>
<p>And anyone who independently looks at the data and digs through info and history, and questions the narrative&#8230; why they are dismissed as subhuman with no love for others, by those who have been told what to say and blindly do, by celebrities and pop stars..  Pretty clever really.</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t we question this, which is so obviously created by those with $ who want more power, to further an end that to them might justify the means.</p>
<p>On a final note.  Question everything.  Do your own research.  Don&#8217;t let your belief system blind you.<br />
(I promise to follow all of these rules as well)</p>
<p>No more &#8220;Be Safe&#8221;&#8230; Time to speak out and &#8220;Be brave&#8221;  &#8211;N</p>
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		By: Boise Lawyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2020 16:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Know what else has a survivability of 99% plus? Car crashes. That&#039;s why I refuse to allow my right to travel to be infringed by dumb sheeple laws like speed limits, stop lights, and so forth. Because it&#039;s about me and my freedom (however I define it). Not my community or safety of others.

Nate is right that some people will believe anything, and once they believe something, it’s tough for them to question themselves. But, with all due respect, he might try looking in the mirror on that one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Know what else has a survivability of 99% plus? Car crashes. That&#8217;s why I refuse to allow my right to travel to be infringed by dumb sheeple laws like speed limits, stop lights, and so forth. Because it&#8217;s about me and my freedom (however I define it). Not my community or safety of others.</p>
<p>Nate is right that some people will believe anything, and once they believe something, it’s tough for them to question themselves. But, with all due respect, he might try looking in the mirror on that one.</p>
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