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		By: Night Trader		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/11/18/boises-subtle-marketing-logo-change/#comment-108718</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Night Trader]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2020 09:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Creating a city &quot;for everyone&quot; has a very thin veil that screams $$$. I&#039;m ok with letting them come at their own expense.  However, has anyone NOT noticed the ever-increasing pile of pleas for dollar help.  We could wallpaper McLean&#039;s downtown with them.  My response was to go from deserved charitable contributions to NONE.  We have also returned to the litter with their signs for help at strategic spots around town.  I remember a former Boise Mayor cleaning the city of this blight. Unfortunately, there will be enough forced welfare with the likes of L. Sanchez holding elected office.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creating a city &#8220;for everyone&#8221; has a very thin veil that screams $$$. I&#8217;m ok with letting them come at their own expense.  However, has anyone NOT noticed the ever-increasing pile of pleas for dollar help.  We could wallpaper McLean&#8217;s downtown with them.  My response was to go from deserved charitable contributions to NONE.  We have also returned to the litter with their signs for help at strategic spots around town.  I remember a former Boise Mayor cleaning the city of this blight. Unfortunately, there will be enough forced welfare with the likes of L. Sanchez holding elected office.</p>
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		By: Forced Air		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Forced Air]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2020 17:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“Creating a City For Everyone.” 

That implies that Boise has NOT been a city for everyone. What does that actually mean? Well...it is supposed to imply that only certain people have enjoyed the hospitality of Boise and that some have never enjoyed the same. I have lived here all of my life (since 1962) and I have witnessed Boise be inclusive more and more of ALL stripes of people, without any special campaigns to encourage inclusion. Boise is a decent city and its own qualities have brought people here. Once the Mall was built in the 1980s, the economic engine began to purr as that signaled we were becoming a growth spot. The Kempthorne and Coles admins oversaw the rapid growth infection and there were no special Be Nice campaigns used to achieve it. 

We became cosmopolitan by osmosis. This notion spurred by Lisa Sanchez is ill-founded. It&#039;s mere Marxist struggle session agitprop that is designed to generate white guilt so that no one will stand up and call criticisms to plans that are NOT in the public&#039;s interest...aka Portlandia. It is a false implication and indictment. 

Our real problem is that we need to STOP growth outright and maintain the economy that we have. Open spaces and prohibiting stack and packs should be our goal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Creating a City For Everyone.” </p>
<p>That implies that Boise has NOT been a city for everyone. What does that actually mean? Well&#8230;it is supposed to imply that only certain people have enjoyed the hospitality of Boise and that some have never enjoyed the same. I have lived here all of my life (since 1962) and I have witnessed Boise be inclusive more and more of ALL stripes of people, without any special campaigns to encourage inclusion. Boise is a decent city and its own qualities have brought people here. Once the Mall was built in the 1980s, the economic engine began to purr as that signaled we were becoming a growth spot. The Kempthorne and Coles admins oversaw the rapid growth infection and there were no special Be Nice campaigns used to achieve it. </p>
<p>We became cosmopolitan by osmosis. This notion spurred by Lisa Sanchez is ill-founded. It&#8217;s mere Marxist struggle session agitprop that is designed to generate white guilt so that no one will stand up and call criticisms to plans that are NOT in the public&#8217;s interest&#8230;aka Portlandia. It is a false implication and indictment. </p>
<p>Our real problem is that we need to STOP growth outright and maintain the economy that we have. Open spaces and prohibiting stack and packs should be our goal.</p>
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		By: western guy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2020 20:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The person who wrote about the power of the Boise Fire Dept union is spot on:  One term Mayor must have seen the light (spark?!) and noticed the union would crush either of the two &#039;outsider&#039; Chief candidates.

But don&#039;t believe for a minute the union will support her or any city council candidate in the future who doesn&#039;t pledge to raise FD salaries, increase staffing, buy more unnecessary HazMat, rescue boats and radio kit.

So now they get an &#039;insiders outsider&#039; from just down Fairview Avenue.  And will he move into the City and pledge to earn his bachelor&#039;s degree or will the City Council waive that requirement?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The person who wrote about the power of the Boise Fire Dept union is spot on:  One term Mayor must have seen the light (spark?!) and noticed the union would crush either of the two &#8216;outsider&#8217; Chief candidates.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t believe for a minute the union will support her or any city council candidate in the future who doesn&#8217;t pledge to raise FD salaries, increase staffing, buy more unnecessary HazMat, rescue boats and radio kit.</p>
<p>So now they get an &#8216;insiders outsider&#8217; from just down Fairview Avenue.  And will he move into the City and pledge to earn his bachelor&#8217;s degree or will the City Council waive that requirement?</p>
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		By: JJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2020 17:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Marketing and slogans are generally meaningless and at worst actually meant to mislead.  Only when the actions of leaders match the slogan does it have meaning.  In other words always judge people, especially politicians by what they do, not what they say, because what they say is carefully calculated for a predetermined outcome.

My favorite example is how all tech companies have Privacy Policies when they should be called &quot;Lack of Privacy Policy&quot; if the title was to actually describe the content and intent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing and slogans are generally meaningless and at worst actually meant to mislead.  Only when the actions of leaders match the slogan does it have meaning.  In other words always judge people, especially politicians by what they do, not what they say, because what they say is carefully calculated for a predetermined outcome.</p>
<p>My favorite example is how all tech companies have Privacy Policies when they should be called &#8220;Lack of Privacy Policy&#8221; if the title was to actually describe the content and intent.</p>
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		By: JJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2020 17:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Bieter IS Gone;

Thanks for the link to the Police survey.  Our system of government is a participatory system and hears more loudly those who participate.  Encourage everyone to take the survey]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Bieter IS Gone;</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to the Police survey.  Our system of government is a participatory system and hears more loudly those who participate.  Encourage everyone to take the survey</p>
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		By: Bieter IS gone but he’s now in a skirt		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2020/11/18/boises-subtle-marketing-logo-change/#comment-108595</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bieter IS gone but he’s now in a skirt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 13:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Think Again.  The new chief was chosen because he would kowtow to the union,  and the union gives a whole lot of money to the democrats running Boise.  Didn’t you see where the union gave its blessing?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Think Again.  The new chief was chosen because he would kowtow to the union,  and the union gives a whole lot of money to the democrats running Boise.  Didn’t you see where the union gave its blessing?</p>
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		By: Bieter IS Gone, however He’s now in a skirt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bieter IS Gone, however He’s now in a skirt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 13:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Take the Police survey.  They really want you to know how much they care and I’m sure are really going to listen to the public. 

https://www.cityofboise.org/police-data-dashboards

You have to scroll down to see “take the survey”. Because they really want input.  It might have been better if they advertised this to the community instead of just the DBA downtown, but hey, they really care.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take the Police survey.  They really want you to know how much they care and I’m sure are really going to listen to the public. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.cityofboise.org/police-data-dashboards" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.cityofboise.org/police-data-dashboards</a></p>
<p>You have to scroll down to see “take the survey”. Because they really want input.  It might have been better if they advertised this to the community instead of just the DBA downtown, but hey, they really care.</p>
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		By: Thanks Katie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thanks Katie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2020 05:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the info Katie.  Our waste water is so loaded with Rx meds we will all be taking a drug cocktail from the tap.  Then the city will charge extra for purified drinking water.  Nothing better than dirty drinking water for the water purifier businesses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info Katie.  Our waste water is so loaded with Rx meds we will all be taking a drug cocktail from the tap.  Then the city will charge extra for purified drinking water.  Nothing better than dirty drinking water for the water purifier businesses.</p>
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		By: Concerned Neighbor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Concerned Neighbor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2020 03:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Marxist McLean is following the latest national socialist propaganda - a city of criminals funded by welfare.  Greatest Good my hiney!
We don&#039;t want criminals and freeloaders here.  Why do you think people move to &quot;good&quot; neighborhoods?  Crime has reduced over the last decade because criminals have been priced out of the rental market.  That&#039;s not a bad thing.  To bad that traffic deaths have been shooting up since Beiter forced out Masterson, and McLean hired a poser from the City of a Thousand Riots to drive BPD even further into uselessness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marxist McLean is following the latest national socialist propaganda &#8211; a city of criminals funded by welfare.  Greatest Good my hiney!<br />
We don&#8217;t want criminals and freeloaders here.  Why do you think people move to &#8220;good&#8221; neighborhoods?  Crime has reduced over the last decade because criminals have been priced out of the rental market.  That&#8217;s not a bad thing.  To bad that traffic deaths have been shooting up since Beiter forced out Masterson, and McLean hired a poser from the City of a Thousand Riots to drive BPD even further into uselessness.</p>
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		By: katie fite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[katie fite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2020 17:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with XX. Bieter&#039;s &quot;Livability&quot; crusade and &quot;Liv&quot; nonsense was all a marketing gimmick to draw more people to move here and stress our already strained city and its resources. Also, I believe the Bieter regime was paying consultants to churn out Livability crap, get Boise-promoting articles placed in media, etc. If so, perhaps that means some of these $$$ will not be spent? 

We are unfortunately living with the legacy of all that Liv marketing crap though. All those articles &#039;Boise made the top 20 List in Towns with Most Beer Bike Bars&quot; and the like --- have resulted in the city now plowing ahead with various &quot;Toilet to Tap&quot; water re-use schemes, including  injecting partially treated sewage water into the aquifer near the airport (what could possibly go wrong and which water wells will it show up in?), and also releasing this water into the Farmers Union Canal. BOTH those schemes have major implications for our drinking water and the health of our community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with XX. Bieter&#8217;s &#8220;Livability&#8221; crusade and &#8220;Liv&#8221; nonsense was all a marketing gimmick to draw more people to move here and stress our already strained city and its resources. Also, I believe the Bieter regime was paying consultants to churn out Livability crap, get Boise-promoting articles placed in media, etc. If so, perhaps that means some of these $$$ will not be spent? </p>
<p>We are unfortunately living with the legacy of all that Liv marketing crap though. All those articles &#8216;Boise made the top 20 List in Towns with Most Beer Bike Bars&#8221; and the like &#8212; have resulted in the city now plowing ahead with various &#8220;Toilet to Tap&#8221; water re-use schemes, including  injecting partially treated sewage water into the aquifer near the airport (what could possibly go wrong and which water wells will it show up in?), and also releasing this water into the Farmers Union Canal. BOTH those schemes have major implications for our drinking water and the health of our community.</p>
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