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		By: Jo Jo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jo Jo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2020 18:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmmm...more name calling.  Not useful.  And this one stretches credulity--keep in mind that the 1-1 runoff came as a result of no one getting a plurality in the original race.  I keep hearing that people didn&#039;t want McLean or Bieter, but the election results sure didn&#039;t show that, or the runoff wouldn&#039;t have come down to the two of them.  Reality appears to be that there is a noisy subset of people in Boise who like to complain, but apparently aren&#039;t ambitious enough to organize.  Reminds me of the fact that Ammon Bundy certainly doesn&#039;t speak for many people, but they sure seem to yell a lot (and yes, I align with the 97% folks).

Have some examples of refusal to engage and not following up with answers?  I&#039;m open to being persuaded, but I need examples.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;more name calling.  Not useful.  And this one stretches credulity&#8211;keep in mind that the 1-1 runoff came as a result of no one getting a plurality in the original race.  I keep hearing that people didn&#8217;t want McLean or Bieter, but the election results sure didn&#8217;t show that, or the runoff wouldn&#8217;t have come down to the two of them.  Reality appears to be that there is a noisy subset of people in Boise who like to complain, but apparently aren&#8217;t ambitious enough to organize.  Reminds me of the fact that Ammon Bundy certainly doesn&#8217;t speak for many people, but they sure seem to yell a lot (and yes, I align with the 97% folks).</p>
<p>Have some examples of refusal to engage and not following up with answers?  I&#8217;m open to being persuaded, but I need examples.</p>
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		By: McLean IS worse than Bieter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McLean IS worse than Bieter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 13:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JoJo

McLean win because she ran one on one against Bieter. People wanted Beiter out, they didn’t want  McLean.

She would do well to remember that. But she won’t.  She’s very un transparent, refuses to engage, doesn’t get back with answers.  IOW she’s a leftist democrat pol who believes she’s a goddess and doesn’t need to interact with the little people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoJo</p>
<p>McLean win because she ran one on one against Bieter. People wanted Beiter out, they didn’t want  McLean.</p>
<p>She would do well to remember that. But she won’t.  She’s very un transparent, refuses to engage, doesn’t get back with answers.  IOW she’s a leftist democrat pol who believes she’s a goddess and doesn’t need to interact with the little people.</p>
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		By: Enrico49		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2020 23:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How else do things change? The way is now X could threaten to kill someone. Easterner can rule as a legend in her own eyes blaming others and name calling to no end.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How else do things change? The way is now X could threaten to kill someone. Easterner can rule as a legend in her own eyes blaming others and name calling to no end.</p>
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		By: Erico49		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2020 17:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love it when anonymous posters bitch about anonymous posting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it when anonymous posters bitch about anonymous posting.</p>
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		By: Mr. Frazier is censoring opinions		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Frazier is censoring opinions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. F, You are now picking what comments to post? You know it doesn’t matter the name and email given. Easterner has concealed that for sometime. Most know that the name Easterner is guise. I believe that E s likely a women or Jim Tibbs hiding behind a dress. Clearly a judgmental liberal who you allow to judge others as “idiots.”
Change the rules for everyone and require a verifiable name and email like newspapers do.

EDITOR NOTE--We have wrestled with the name issue for years, but allow the anonymous comments because many of them are from folks who would be muzzled if their identity were revealed.  On the down side we have folks who duplicate screen names or make misleading &quot;false flag&quot; comments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. F, You are now picking what comments to post? You know it doesn’t matter the name and email given. Easterner has concealed that for sometime. Most know that the name Easterner is guise. I believe that E s likely a women or Jim Tibbs hiding behind a dress. Clearly a judgmental liberal who you allow to judge others as “idiots.”<br />
Change the rules for everyone and require a verifiable name and email like newspapers do.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;We have wrestled with the name issue for years, but allow the anonymous comments because many of them are from folks who would be muzzled if their identity were revealed.  On the down side we have folks who duplicate screen names or make misleading &#8220;false flag&#8221; comments.</p>
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		By: Speaking out of turn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Speaking out of turn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 23:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think unrest is probably those who cannot express their interests positively, such as through their professions, hobbies, or social groups.  I am really troubled by the Nazi symbols placed in the local Ann Frank Memorial.  Very few people now still alive, especially those in Boise, know, understand, and/or can begin to comprehend the viciousness of the hate and murder of the Nazi effort to exterminate people.  How sick it was, and how uneducated and deranged it is now. Why don&#039;t they start their own movement?  Sorta like, lets all do meth, religion, and racism]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think unrest is probably those who cannot express their interests positively, such as through their professions, hobbies, or social groups.  I am really troubled by the Nazi symbols placed in the local Ann Frank Memorial.  Very few people now still alive, especially those in Boise, know, understand, and/or can begin to comprehend the viciousness of the hate and murder of the Nazi effort to exterminate people.  How sick it was, and how uneducated and deranged it is now. Why don&#8217;t they start their own movement?  Sorta like, lets all do meth, religion, and racism</p>
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		By: Forced Air		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 20:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear editor,

I was agreeing with you, using the example from the Phil Batt days. I also turned the table onto the city leadership that is brewing Portlandia type politics. I was right in the middle of Occupy Boise action when all of that occurred...that&#039;s when I got my belly full of it and discovered that they don&#039;t want to solve problems...they want to create problems.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear editor,</p>
<p>I was agreeing with you, using the example from the Phil Batt days. I also turned the table onto the city leadership that is brewing Portlandia type politics. I was right in the middle of Occupy Boise action when all of that occurred&#8230;that&#8217;s when I got my belly full of it and discovered that they don&#8217;t want to solve problems&#8230;they want to create problems.</p>
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		By: FunkHobo69		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FunkHobo69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 00:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is a key source of the unrest: How many city, county, state or federal employees have been laid off or forced to take a pay cut in the last 9 months of Covid hell?  My guess would be precisely zero.  Meanwhile their dictates can cause many average citizens to go through a living hell of unemployment, business failure, depression, divorce and suicide all so the political class can keep up an appearance of &quot;doing something&quot; while not directly dealing with the consequences.  With all of the scare tactics promoted by these guys, one would expect bodies of Covid victims to be stacked up on street corners like cordwood while awaiting burial in mass graves.  That is clearly not the case, but so many are victims to their scare tactics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a key source of the unrest: How many city, county, state or federal employees have been laid off or forced to take a pay cut in the last 9 months of Covid hell?  My guess would be precisely zero.  Meanwhile their dictates can cause many average citizens to go through a living hell of unemployment, business failure, depression, divorce and suicide all so the political class can keep up an appearance of &#8220;doing something&#8221; while not directly dealing with the consequences.  With all of the scare tactics promoted by these guys, one would expect bodies of Covid victims to be stacked up on street corners like cordwood while awaiting burial in mass graves.  That is clearly not the case, but so many are victims to their scare tactics.</p>
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		By: Dave Kangas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Kangas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2020 22:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In all the chaos and protests taking place, I am sure Bundy has a part. But I don&#039;t believe it is very large. The large anti mask protests, school board meeting chaos are well organized, well attended and growing. While there aren&#039;t any corporate flags flying, or someone standing to claim &quot;we did that&quot;, there is only one organization sowing discontent against all government agencies throughout Idaho. They are masters of blame avoidance and spin control too. Seemingly impervious to investigations, it&#039;s like Idaho has it&#039;s own &quot;Teflon Don&quot;. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all the chaos and protests taking place, I am sure Bundy has a part. But I don&#8217;t believe it is very large. The large anti mask protests, school board meeting chaos are well organized, well attended and growing. While there aren&#8217;t any corporate flags flying, or someone standing to claim &#8220;we did that&#8221;, there is only one organization sowing discontent against all government agencies throughout Idaho. They are masters of blame avoidance and spin control too. Seemingly impervious to investigations, it&#8217;s like Idaho has it&#8217;s own &#8220;Teflon Don&#8221;. 🙂</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2020 22:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t add anything to the excellent commentary already shared!  THANKS, fellow Guardian readers!  An astute bunch!  You give me hope!

A very panoramic observation:

During the lockdown, I&#039;ve been using the social media a little more than my historical pattern... and I&#039;ve been dismayed lately by &quot;friends&quot; who are very deliberately sheltering themselves in either their &quot;left-wing bubble&quot; or their &quot;right-wing bubble.&quot;  They eagerly embrace the media (you can hardly call it &quot;news&quot; any more) that reinforce their viewpoint, and have no interest in trying to understand the other guys.  And if you don&#039;t join them in their bubble, you are considered part of the problem.

In 2016: &quot;They hated on my man Obama - so I&#039;m gonna hate on their guy!&quot;
In 2020: &quot;They hated on my man Trump - so I&#039;m morally obligated to hate on their guy!&quot;  (It may not be over, but there some faint handwriting on the wall.)
Where does it end?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t add anything to the excellent commentary already shared!  THANKS, fellow Guardian readers!  An astute bunch!  You give me hope!</p>
<p>A very panoramic observation:</p>
<p>During the lockdown, I&#8217;ve been using the social media a little more than my historical pattern&#8230; and I&#8217;ve been dismayed lately by &#8220;friends&#8221; who are very deliberately sheltering themselves in either their &#8220;left-wing bubble&#8221; or their &#8220;right-wing bubble.&#8221;  They eagerly embrace the media (you can hardly call it &#8220;news&#8221; any more) that reinforce their viewpoint, and have no interest in trying to understand the other guys.  And if you don&#8217;t join them in their bubble, you are considered part of the problem.</p>
<p>In 2016: &#8220;They hated on my man Obama &#8211; so I&#8217;m gonna hate on their guy!&#8221;<br />
In 2020: &#8220;They hated on my man Trump &#8211; so I&#8217;m morally obligated to hate on their guy!&#8221;  (It may not be over, but there some faint handwriting on the wall.)<br />
Where does it end?</p>
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