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		By: Boise Model		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/06/11/boise-seeks-to-give-developer-public-land/#comment-109439</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boise Model]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2021 21:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eagle just got something like 275,000 per acre for the park land they auctioned off.

I don&#039;t know if south Boise land would fetch the same per acre at auction but if it did that would yield over $40 million. That is a lot of foothills land. 

A land swap also helps the developer defer the tax gain on his foothills land. Nice jester by the City to further help the developer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eagle just got something like 275,000 per acre for the park land they auctioned off.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if south Boise land would fetch the same per acre at auction but if it did that would yield over $40 million. That is a lot of foothills land. </p>
<p>A land swap also helps the developer defer the tax gain on his foothills land. Nice jester by the City to further help the developer.</p>
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		By: Caeth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caeth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2021 18:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t there density restriction zoning in the flight path? Has there also been an under the table promise to change that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t there density restriction zoning in the flight path? Has there also been an under the table promise to change that?</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2021 16:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If any Gaurdian readers are surprised by this report,they must be new to the area! City of Boise Elected public servants decisions have been in favor of developers since Master Beiter and the Northend CamelToe Packers went to bed with BRA/CCDC. Elected public servant Lauren McClinger is Master Beiter in a dress? 
These continued actions by OUR elected public servants fuel the need for the public to have representation by City council members in the WHOLE OF THE CITY. Districting. 
I&#039;d be surprised if any elected public servant has been to the area and wouldn&#039;t be surprised that developer bought site unseen! From their home in CA!
Sometimes I believe elected public servants divert our attention from the budget meetings taking place? 
HOW DID WE GET HERE?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If any Gaurdian readers are surprised by this report,they must be new to the area! City of Boise Elected public servants decisions have been in favor of developers since Master Beiter and the Northend CamelToe Packers went to bed with BRA/CCDC. Elected public servant Lauren McClinger is Master Beiter in a dress?<br />
These continued actions by OUR elected public servants fuel the need for the public to have representation by City council members in the WHOLE OF THE CITY. Districting.<br />
I&#8217;d be surprised if any elected public servant has been to the area and wouldn&#8217;t be surprised that developer bought site unseen! From their home in CA!<br />
Sometimes I believe elected public servants divert our attention from the budget meetings taking place?<br />
HOW DID WE GET HERE?</p>
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		By: John Q Publique		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/06/11/boise-seeks-to-give-developer-public-land/#comment-109435</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Q Publique]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2021 03:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The roughly 160 acre Murgoito property is in unincorporated Ada County and has been since its purchase by Boise City.  Now the City wants to annex the property into the City along with the Boise School District property which also is in unincorporated Ada County.

For about 30 years the Murgoito property has been touted as a future park site by Boise City and during that time the City has repeatedly stated it would not use City tax dollars to develop the property into a park until the surrounding area was annexed into the City. 

It might be interesting to see what conditions, if any, were imposed by the sellers on the City for the property, i.e., was it to be developed as a park, etc.  That should be a matter of public record.

The Murgoito property is about 3 miles west of the proposed Boise Airport third runway and appears to be directly in line with it.  This area is already subject to aircraft noise as noted in Round One F-35 documents.

The City has already purchased other land in the area for aircraft noise and safety abatement purposes so, as others have noted, why would the City allow homes to be built in an area which already has aircraft noise issues?  Were aircraft noise and safety abatement issues part of the rationale to purchase the Murgoito property to begin with and, if so, were Federal tax dollars used for the purchase?

The Boise School District property was purchased from Boise City in the late 1990s or early 2000s.  Boise Airport had purchased that land before that timeline - most likely for aircraft noise and safety abatement purposes.  That means our Federal tax dollars were likely used by Boise City for the purchase.

A usual condition of receiving Federal monies is they have to be paid back to the Feds if the item they helped purchase is ever sold or transferred.  Another item to raise questions about.  Is there a payback to the Feds and, if so, how much is it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The roughly 160 acre Murgoito property is in unincorporated Ada County and has been since its purchase by Boise City.  Now the City wants to annex the property into the City along with the Boise School District property which also is in unincorporated Ada County.</p>
<p>For about 30 years the Murgoito property has been touted as a future park site by Boise City and during that time the City has repeatedly stated it would not use City tax dollars to develop the property into a park until the surrounding area was annexed into the City. </p>
<p>It might be interesting to see what conditions, if any, were imposed by the sellers on the City for the property, i.e., was it to be developed as a park, etc.  That should be a matter of public record.</p>
<p>The Murgoito property is about 3 miles west of the proposed Boise Airport third runway and appears to be directly in line with it.  This area is already subject to aircraft noise as noted in Round One F-35 documents.</p>
<p>The City has already purchased other land in the area for aircraft noise and safety abatement purposes so, as others have noted, why would the City allow homes to be built in an area which already has aircraft noise issues?  Were aircraft noise and safety abatement issues part of the rationale to purchase the Murgoito property to begin with and, if so, were Federal tax dollars used for the purchase?</p>
<p>The Boise School District property was purchased from Boise City in the late 1990s or early 2000s.  Boise Airport had purchased that land before that timeline &#8211; most likely for aircraft noise and safety abatement purposes.  That means our Federal tax dollars were likely used by Boise City for the purchase.</p>
<p>A usual condition of receiving Federal monies is they have to be paid back to the Feds if the item they helped purchase is ever sold or transferred.  Another item to raise questions about.  Is there a payback to the Feds and, if so, how much is it?</p>
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		By: J. Swift		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Swift]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2021 22:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Open space appears to be a problem for both the liberal Boise mayor and the conservative Eagle mayor.  Eagle just sold 35 acres of once planned parkland at Floating Feather and Meridian Rd for $9 mil to a developer.  In the KTVB article, Eagle mayor  Pierce is quoted  that he expects up to 70 new homes to be built on the parcel.  This is really no surprise.  Pierce&#039;s campaign had strong financial support from the Avimor developers; Avimor is seeking annexation into Eagle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open space appears to be a problem for both the liberal Boise mayor and the conservative Eagle mayor.  Eagle just sold 35 acres of once planned parkland at Floating Feather and Meridian Rd for $9 mil to a developer.  In the KTVB article, Eagle mayor  Pierce is quoted  that he expects up to 70 new homes to be built on the parcel.  This is really no surprise.  Pierce&#8217;s campaign had strong financial support from the Avimor developers; Avimor is seeking annexation into Eagle.</p>
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		By: xx		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/06/11/boise-seeks-to-give-developer-public-land/#comment-109429</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2021 03:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The 2016–2021 contract with Boise City Fire says that if the City annexes the land, Boise is to purchase the station from Whitney F.D. within two years for $2,092,795.01 and Whitney paid for the managing and financing of this station.

EDITOR NOTE--Thanks for the research info.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2016–2021 contract with Boise City Fire says that if the City annexes the land, Boise is to purchase the station from Whitney F.D. within two years for $2,092,795.01 and Whitney paid for the managing and financing of this station.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Thanks for the research info.</p>
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		By: Caeth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caeth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glenda: Yes. And no.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenda: Yes. And no.</p>
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		By: PD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[City Limits. Why is Boise Fire Station 17 is on the East piece of this parcel, Cole Road, and it is NOT within city limits?  Are other Boise Fire stations not within Boise City limits?

EDITOR NOTE--That station is a &quot;joint&quot; facility.  Boise taxpayers pay the wages of ALL the firefighters on a contract and they have a deal with the Whitney Fire District to provide city-level services to the rural district.  Whitney owns some of the fire engines and part of the station.  Whitney has a chief with no firefighters.  Not sure of current situation, but former Boise chief retired and then became Whitney chief.  Whitney charges patrons less than Boise charges city residents and Boise provides the coverage.

Last time we checked, Whitney paid Boise less than they tax their non-city resident patrons.

(We welcome any clarification from those who are familiar with current status)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>City Limits. Why is Boise Fire Station 17 is on the East piece of this parcel, Cole Road, and it is NOT within city limits?  Are other Boise Fire stations not within Boise City limits?</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;That station is a &#8220;joint&#8221; facility.  Boise taxpayers pay the wages of ALL the firefighters on a contract and they have a deal with the Whitney Fire District to provide city-level services to the rural district.  Whitney owns some of the fire engines and part of the station.  Whitney has a chief with no firefighters.  Not sure of current situation, but former Boise chief retired and then became Whitney chief.  Whitney charges patrons less than Boise charges city residents and Boise provides the coverage.</p>
<p>Last time we checked, Whitney paid Boise less than they tax their non-city resident patrons.</p>
<p>(We welcome any clarification from those who are familiar with current status)</p>
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		By: Ren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2021 16:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just another example of the north end trying to rule the entire city. Taxation without representation!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another example of the north end trying to rule the entire city. Taxation without representation!</p>
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		By: Glenda Randall S. Randall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenda Randall S. Randall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2021 04:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We bought our home on the rim in 1997. Can you guess one major reason we purchased? Yes, the promise of a park and green space below us. Boise, the City of Trees! This promise was made years ago. We were sent three different options of design. Is Boise a city now only interested  in creating green space for areas where individuals have more power and money to lobby and achieve their goals? Should we ever believe the word of local leadership?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We bought our home on the rim in 1997. Can you guess one major reason we purchased? Yes, the promise of a park and green space below us. Boise, the City of Trees! This promise was made years ago. We were sent three different options of design. Is Boise a city now only interested  in creating green space for areas where individuals have more power and money to lobby and achieve their goals? Should we ever believe the word of local leadership?</p>
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