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		By: Hoping for different results		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/06/22/politicos-ignorant-to-past-study/#comment-109518</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hoping for different results]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2021 06:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Government entities love hiring consulting firms (sometimes owned by their buddies) to do studies, and then when the data does not tell them what they want, they wait a while, and issue another RFP to repeat the same study, hoping for different results. Did this with the Ada County Fairgrounds in 2009 and now it is being done again. Boise fire did a Standards of Cover study in 2011 and the data did not look so great. This study was done again last year and the data shows many of the same problems. Hard to improve when you add more people (via density), more land via annexation, and not build additional fire stations to keep up.

And Boise did a police patrol staffing analysis in 2018 and the proposed 2022 City budget shows they are going to spend on another staffing analysis. Maybe this one will magically erase the fact that the 2018 study said we were short 54 officers and that we would need 30 more on top of this by 2025 to keep up with the projected population growth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government entities love hiring consulting firms (sometimes owned by their buddies) to do studies, and then when the data does not tell them what they want, they wait a while, and issue another RFP to repeat the same study, hoping for different results. Did this with the Ada County Fairgrounds in 2009 and now it is being done again. Boise fire did a Standards of Cover study in 2011 and the data did not look so great. This study was done again last year and the data shows many of the same problems. Hard to improve when you add more people (via density), more land via annexation, and not build additional fire stations to keep up.</p>
<p>And Boise did a police patrol staffing analysis in 2018 and the proposed 2022 City budget shows they are going to spend on another staffing analysis. Maybe this one will magically erase the fact that the 2018 study said we were short 54 officers and that we would need 30 more on top of this by 2025 to keep up with the projected population growth.</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/06/22/politicos-ignorant-to-past-study/#comment-109517</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2021 18:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What do Boise politicos and U.S. Sen Mike Crapo have in common? They are ELECTED PUBLIC SERVANTS. Maybe if we looked at them as that we could demand more from them. Seems like that politico or official reference puts them on a pedestal!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do Boise politicos and U.S. Sen Mike Crapo have in common? They are ELECTED PUBLIC SERVANTS. Maybe if we looked at them as that we could demand more from them. Seems like that politico or official reference puts them on a pedestal!</p>
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		By: PD		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/06/22/politicos-ignorant-to-past-study/#comment-109497</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2021 19:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[to be on topic- &quot;Ignorant of the Past&quot; and Trains.    It is ironic Detective Clouseau forgets it was the immigrant Chinese workers that made the trains possible, to help, make America what it is today.  Not to mention, itt was the cheap slave labor that gave a trading advantage in the early colonial years. It is the immigrant workers in the fields that brings us cheap food today. What we do is upon the land unfairly taken from the native people by English, French and others. Immigrant, people of color have been used to build America to financial benefit of those in power. There is nothing that OWG did that was not at the expense of another group of vulnerable people. 
To say &quot; &#039;the&#039; group of people without whom America would not even exist&quot;  is alone, proof of the point. It is also connect to the Juneteeth posts. Same.  The one group? And not exist? Rubbish!   
btw  men did not just   give   women voting rights. Women FOUGHT to exercise their right to vote.   Just exactly as it was in each case referenced, those in power do not ever voluntarily &#039;give-up&#039; their power or authority.  The oppressed have to fight for everything. Just like the Boise Council is not going to voluntarily give up their authority to dump this property, sitting outside their city limits.    

A voice of equality in a free press is much more important than a bias voice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be on topic- &#8220;Ignorant of the Past&#8221; and Trains.    It is ironic Detective Clouseau forgets it was the immigrant Chinese workers that made the trains possible, to help, make America what it is today.  Not to mention, itt was the cheap slave labor that gave a trading advantage in the early colonial years. It is the immigrant workers in the fields that brings us cheap food today. What we do is upon the land unfairly taken from the native people by English, French and others. Immigrant, people of color have been used to build America to financial benefit of those in power. There is nothing that OWG did that was not at the expense of another group of vulnerable people.<br />
To say &#8221; &#8216;the&#8217; group of people without whom America would not even exist&#8221;  is alone, proof of the point. It is also connect to the Juneteeth posts. Same.  The one group? And not exist? Rubbish!<br />
btw  men did not just   give   women voting rights. Women FOUGHT to exercise their right to vote.   Just exactly as it was in each case referenced, those in power do not ever voluntarily &#8216;give-up&#8217; their power or authority.  The oppressed have to fight for everything. Just like the Boise Council is not going to voluntarily give up their authority to dump this property, sitting outside their city limits.    </p>
<p>A voice of equality in a free press is much more important than a bias voice.</p>
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		By: rabula		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/06/22/politicos-ignorant-to-past-study/#comment-109493</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rabula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2021 14:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mass transit, especially by rail, makes little economic sense in a population as sprawled as Boise and the Treasure Valley. 

In a sprawled, car-dominated culture like ours, rather than continuing to run large, mostly empty buses and/or streetcars, wouldn&#039;t it make more sense to subsidize and improve distributed, ride-sharing technologies — more convenient, comfortable, and economical?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mass transit, especially by rail, makes little economic sense in a population as sprawled as Boise and the Treasure Valley. </p>
<p>In a sprawled, car-dominated culture like ours, rather than continuing to run large, mostly empty buses and/or streetcars, wouldn&#8217;t it make more sense to subsidize and improve distributed, ride-sharing technologies — more convenient, comfortable, and economical?</p>
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		By: Steve Berch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Berch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2021 19:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It would be interesting to know if resumption of Amtrak service to Boise would open the door to Amtrak providing local mass transit shuttle services across the Treasure Valley, which could potentially be profitable. While many people do not relish the thought of the valley growing to that point, some form of mass transit will likely be needed to supplement roads should such growth occur. Just trying to keep an eye open to a bigger, possible long term situation that would call for planning before a need is upon us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to know if resumption of Amtrak service to Boise would open the door to Amtrak providing local mass transit shuttle services across the Treasure Valley, which could potentially be profitable. While many people do not relish the thought of the valley growing to that point, some form of mass transit will likely be needed to supplement roads should such growth occur. Just trying to keep an eye open to a bigger, possible long term situation that would call for planning before a need is upon us.</p>
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		By: Get a clue PD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Get a clue PD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2021 18:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PD your commentary is apparently critical of the editorial staff.  Kinda funny considering the depth of experience, integrity, and respect earned over the decades by the editorial staff.  What has elevated you to such an arrogant preacher?  What are your life&#039;s accomplishments?  Why should anyone give a crap what you say?

The Boise Guardian fills an important role in the valley which the legacy media refuses to fill due to their cozy relationships with local power players.  BG also gives voice to Joe The Plumber which really seems to bother the people who are trying to keep the local propaganda lies intact.

OWG is a racist and disrespectful term applied to the group of people without whom America would not even exist.  It&#039;s very likely an OWG made possible the shoes on your feet the roof over your head your free schooling your free welfare free medical care and the 911 you call when someone looks at you funny.  If any other subgroup had been running this country to date we&#039;d all be beating our laundry on a rock.  Obama was an OWG.  Biden clearly is.  OWG freed the slaves.  OWG gave women voting rights.  OWG overruled the southern states in the 60s.  OWG ended the cold war.  OWG is a less than ideal, but still our best leadership group.  The wannabee groups are only good at critique and destruction, no clue how to lead and create.  No Clue!

PD, you could start your own politically correct blog with only non offensive topics and non offensive comments preapproved by the Mayor.  Or you could just STFU and enjoy a master journalist&#039;s creation in exercising the American constitutional rights.  The legacy media tries very hard to deny these rights and access, as does local government.  Very worrisome, which begs the question what kind of person dislikes the BG?  Most likely someone who carelessly spends other people&#039;s money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PD your commentary is apparently critical of the editorial staff.  Kinda funny considering the depth of experience, integrity, and respect earned over the decades by the editorial staff.  What has elevated you to such an arrogant preacher?  What are your life&#8217;s accomplishments?  Why should anyone give a crap what you say?</p>
<p>The Boise Guardian fills an important role in the valley which the legacy media refuses to fill due to their cozy relationships with local power players.  BG also gives voice to Joe The Plumber which really seems to bother the people who are trying to keep the local propaganda lies intact.</p>
<p>OWG is a racist and disrespectful term applied to the group of people without whom America would not even exist.  It&#8217;s very likely an OWG made possible the shoes on your feet the roof over your head your free schooling your free welfare free medical care and the 911 you call when someone looks at you funny.  If any other subgroup had been running this country to date we&#8217;d all be beating our laundry on a rock.  Obama was an OWG.  Biden clearly is.  OWG freed the slaves.  OWG gave women voting rights.  OWG overruled the southern states in the 60s.  OWG ended the cold war.  OWG is a less than ideal, but still our best leadership group.  The wannabee groups are only good at critique and destruction, no clue how to lead and create.  No Clue!</p>
<p>PD, you could start your own politically correct blog with only non offensive topics and non offensive comments preapproved by the Mayor.  Or you could just STFU and enjoy a master journalist&#8217;s creation in exercising the American constitutional rights.  The legacy media tries very hard to deny these rights and access, as does local government.  Very worrisome, which begs the question what kind of person dislikes the BG?  Most likely someone who carelessly spends other people&#8217;s money.</p>
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		By: GregN		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/06/22/politicos-ignorant-to-past-study/#comment-109481</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GregN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2021 15:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PD - &quot;The more things change, the more they stay the same.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PD &#8211; &#8220;The more things change, the more they stay the same.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Corruption		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/06/22/politicos-ignorant-to-past-study/#comment-109478</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corruption]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2021 02:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The headline is wrong.  This is not an act of ignorance.  It&#039;s corruption.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The headline is wrong.  This is not an act of ignorance.  It&#8217;s corruption.</p>
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		By: PD		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/06/22/politicos-ignorant-to-past-study/#comment-109477</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2021 01:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Nearly 12 years ago&quot;
Remember 12 years ago-- when you didn&#039;t have a smart phone?  OMG, editor! In 12 years everything has changed.  But the editor knows for a fact, it is not in the best interest.  News of the day? 
KGoldthorpe says, &#039;more traditional infrastructure&#039;.  Do you mean like, horse and buggy?   More OWG rub.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nearly 12 years ago&#8221;<br />
Remember 12 years ago&#8211; when you didn&#8217;t have a smart phone?  OMG, editor! In 12 years everything has changed.  But the editor knows for a fact, it is not in the best interest.  News of the day?<br />
KGoldthorpe says, &#8216;more traditional infrastructure&#8217;.  Do you mean like, horse and buggy?   More OWG rub.</p>
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		By: Kent F Goldthorpe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent F Goldthorpe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 23:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ABSOLUTELY NO to Amtrak!  I agree with your line of thinking.   That any of cash would go infinitely further and be better used on any number of more traditional infrastructure projects.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABSOLUTELY NO to Amtrak!  I agree with your line of thinking.   That any of cash would go infinitely further and be better used on any number of more traditional infrastructure projects.</p>
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