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		By: PD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2021 18:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Two weeks later.   Anything released?]]></description>
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		By: Taxes Out		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Taxes Out]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2021 21:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PD: I suspect the reference was to 8 police involved deaths in the late 1990s. Here is a quote from the article linked below: “ Police shootings in Boise came under scrutiny in the late 1990s. Eight people, including an officer, died in six police-involved shootings over a 16-month period. The victims included Boise Police Officer Mark Stall and two other men involved in a downtown shoot-out in September 1997.”

There is more information about Boise and Idaho police shootings in article. The Boise shootings led to the creation of the Community Ombudsman office which seems to have disappeared or become irrelevant.

https://lmtribune.com/northwest/shootings-by-police-on-the-rise-in-idaho/article_33fea36b-8a3a-5367-9510-457a95599909.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PD: I suspect the reference was to 8 police involved deaths in the late 1990s. Here is a quote from the article linked below: “ Police shootings in Boise came under scrutiny in the late 1990s. Eight people, including an officer, died in six police-involved shootings over a 16-month period. The victims included Boise Police Officer Mark Stall and two other men involved in a downtown shoot-out in September 1997.”</p>
<p>There is more information about Boise and Idaho police shootings in article. The Boise shootings led to the creation of the Community Ombudsman office which seems to have disappeared or become irrelevant.</p>
<p><a href="https://lmtribune.com/northwest/shootings-by-police-on-the-rise-in-idaho/article_33fea36b-8a3a-5367-9510-457a95599909.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://lmtribune.com/northwest/shootings-by-police-on-the-rise-in-idaho/article_33fea36b-8a3a-5367-9510-457a95599909.html</a></p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 16:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Editors post: 
Ahh, the idealism of police work. 
1. Facts and video CAN change and more importantly evidence can change and recordings can be &quot;lost&quot;. 
And now we have &quot;alternative facts&quot; and fake___ (whatever based on one&#039;s goal).  

Certainly perceptions change over time.  Remember the Matthew Jones case? A FUBAR from the start.  Feel the same about it now after the publicity of national cases since 2005?   https://boiseguardian.com/2005/11/17/no-winners-in-bungled-inquest/

I recall, the BPD case of Butt Taser included an 18yr experienced cop intentionally erasing an interview recording.  

Or the ol, &#039;it wasn&#039;t on&#039; excuse. 

All these unfortunate shootings &#038;  nothing has change in cop protocol that I know of.  

Call the cops for a transient person or someone having a mental crisis, or for $20 bill-  and that person ends up dead. What type of person is going to call next time?  

COWBOY 101: Don&#039;t get close too close to  a sleeping person that may be holding a weapon! They might be a better shot than you when awaken.
 
And a good Rule of Engagement: Don&#039;t shoot first in a questionable situation. 

I&#039;ll tell ya, I decided 10 years ago- &quot;don&#039;t call the cops&quot;.   I don&#039;t want anything to do with em. And I don&#039;t trust their system of &quot;I&#039;ve got your back Bro.&quot;  

#NOTRUST

btw: One can go onto Amazon and purchase that gun &quot;Umarex Brodax .177 Caliber BB Gun Air Pistol Revolver&quot;, for $35.  $35 dollars! 
(fake)Personal protection on the street or armed robbery for a $35 investment. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Editors post:<br />
Ahh, the idealism of police work.<br />
1. Facts and video CAN change and more importantly evidence can change and recordings can be &#8220;lost&#8221;.<br />
And now we have &#8220;alternative facts&#8221; and fake___ (whatever based on one&#8217;s goal).  </p>
<p>Certainly perceptions change over time.  Remember the Matthew Jones case? A FUBAR from the start.  Feel the same about it now after the publicity of national cases since 2005?   <a href="https://boiseguardian.com/2005/11/17/no-winners-in-bungled-inquest/" rel="ugc">https://boiseguardian.com/2005/11/17/no-winners-in-bungled-inquest/</a></p>
<p>I recall, the BPD case of Butt Taser included an 18yr experienced cop intentionally erasing an interview recording.  </p>
<p>Or the ol, &#8216;it wasn&#8217;t on&#8217; excuse. </p>
<p>All these unfortunate shootings &amp;  nothing has change in cop protocol that I know of.  </p>
<p>Call the cops for a transient person or someone having a mental crisis, or for $20 bill-  and that person ends up dead. What type of person is going to call next time?  </p>
<p>COWBOY 101: Don&#8217;t get close too close to  a sleeping person that may be holding a weapon! They might be a better shot than you when awaken.</p>
<p>And a good Rule of Engagement: Don&#8217;t shoot first in a questionable situation. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll tell ya, I decided 10 years ago- &#8220;don&#8217;t call the cops&#8221;.   I don&#8217;t want anything to do with em. And I don&#8217;t trust their system of &#8220;I&#8217;ve got your back Bro.&#8221;  </p>
<p>#NOTRUST</p>
<p>btw: One can go onto Amazon and purchase that gun &#8220;Umarex Brodax .177 Caliber BB Gun Air Pistol Revolver&#8221;, for $35.  $35 dollars!<br />
(fake)Personal protection on the street or armed robbery for a $35 investment. 🙂</p>
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		By: Eagle Writer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eagle Writer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The question is one of the public&#039;s &quot;right&quot; to see any evidence from a possible crime scene. Do we have a right to get copies of finger prints, or text messages or computer files or police videos? It seems we are asking to 1) taint a potential jury pool, and 2) cherry pick some evidence and make it public but not all evidence. I think Prosecutor Bennetts got this right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is one of the public&#8217;s &#8220;right&#8221; to see any evidence from a possible crime scene. Do we have a right to get copies of finger prints, or text messages or computer files or police videos? It seems we are asking to 1) taint a potential jury pool, and 2) cherry pick some evidence and make it public but not all evidence. I think Prosecutor Bennetts got this right.</p>
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		By: Caeth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caeth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2021 00:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave: 1. Biased and bigoted interpretation of facts and videos can influence perception. 2. This time. They have viewed and likely feel vindicated. This time. 3. Would a more rapid release have prevented protests, or is that just the popular woke thing to do these days?
GGGo: Sorry, I don&#039;t get your connection.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave: 1. Biased and bigoted interpretation of facts and videos can influence perception. 2. This time. They have viewed and likely feel vindicated. This time. 3. Would a more rapid release have prevented protests, or is that just the popular woke thing to do these days?<br />
GGGo: Sorry, I don&#8217;t get your connection.</p>
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		By: Concerned Neighbor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Concerned Neighbor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2021 22:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Public entertainment has transitioned to &quot;Guilty until Proven Innocent&quot; and Marxist McLean continues to push that instead of our constitutional rights.

Release of videos has proven to create rumors, spark riots, and are constantly manipulated (by CNN and others) to create doubt of our police.

Our citizenry are not informed.  Or rather, they stare at the TV that feeds them a constant stream of misinfotainment that caters to manipulated emotions and advertising dollars.  Corporations are amoral entities that will say anything for a dollar.

Fifth generation warfare is all about misinformation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public entertainment has transitioned to &#8220;Guilty until Proven Innocent&#8221; and Marxist McLean continues to push that instead of our constitutional rights.</p>
<p>Release of videos has proven to create rumors, spark riots, and are constantly manipulated (by CNN and others) to create doubt of our police.</p>
<p>Our citizenry are not informed.  Or rather, they stare at the TV that feeds them a constant stream of misinfotainment that caters to manipulated emotions and advertising dollars.  Corporations are amoral entities that will say anything for a dollar.</p>
<p>Fifth generation warfare is all about misinformation.</p>
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		By: GiddingsGottaGo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GiddingsGottaGo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2021 21:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Caeth, you could apply that same standard to the Priscilla Giddings Ethics hearing, right?  And agree she was doing some behaviour unbecoming a legislator or concerned citizen?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Caeth, you could apply that same standard to the Priscilla Giddings Ethics hearing, right?  And agree she was doing some behaviour unbecoming a legislator or concerned citizen?</p>
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		By: Dave Frazier		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Frazier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2021 19:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Couple of important points to consider. 1--facts and video don&#039;t change. 2--It is the police who want to release the images.  3--there have already been demonstrations and claims of racial bias in one of the incidents.

Truth and an informed citizenry should not be feared or withheld.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple of important points to consider. 1&#8211;facts and video don&#8217;t change. 2&#8211;It is the police who want to release the images.  3&#8211;there have already been demonstrations and claims of racial bias in one of the incidents.</p>
<p>Truth and an informed citizenry should not be feared or withheld.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2021 19:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for you. Do you understand the rights I have just read to you? With these rights in mind, do you wish to speak to me?”

____This is where everyone should say, hell no! 

This is also another point of separation between the haves, and have-nots in America. Classism!  

p.s. 
Irony for for Ernesto Miranda (person for the USSC case), after being released from jail in 1976, he was fatally stabbed during a bar fight. 

His suspected killer was read his Miranda rights and didn’t answer questions from police. 

There was never a conviction in Miranda’s death.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for you. Do you understand the rights I have just read to you? With these rights in mind, do you wish to speak to me?”</p>
<p>____This is where everyone should say, hell no! </p>
<p>This is also another point of separation between the haves, and have-nots in America. Classism!  </p>
<p>p.s.<br />
Irony for for Ernesto Miranda (person for the USSC case), after being released from jail in 1976, he was fatally stabbed during a bar fight. </p>
<p>His suspected killer was read his Miranda rights and didn’t answer questions from police. </p>
<p>There was never a conviction in Miranda’s death.</p>
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		By: Caeth		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/08/09/body-cam-video-of-shootings-should-be-released/#comment-109698</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caeth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2021 18:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shall we dispense with holding investigative evidence until trial? Shall we release it so the media can interpret for us what we are viewing? Shall we do away with untainted juries and convict or acquit in the press? We the public can dust off the pitchforks and torches to invoke justice if you will just let us see the movie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shall we dispense with holding investigative evidence until trial? Shall we release it so the media can interpret for us what we are viewing? Shall we do away with untainted juries and convict or acquit in the press? We the public can dust off the pitchforks and torches to invoke justice if you will just let us see the movie.</p>
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