Comments on: Idaho’s Bowe Bergdahl Played Role In Taliban Leadership

By: PD

PD — Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:36:00 +0000

Hey did y’all hear the PRESIDENT of the United States stopped in to visit Boise. The Mayor greeted him. NIFC- a major federal agency right here in Boise. Slant for the week.

By: Dope awards for posts?

Dope awards for posts? — Wed, 15 Sep 2021 03:18:44 +0000

Might I suggest dope awards for posts editor? Some citizens need to be busted right back to Kool-aid stand operators.

By: Caeth

Caeth — Wed, 15 Sep 2021 01:33:01 +0000

Pat: Our Chief assured them the Afghan gov would retain control. Our Chief assured them the Afghan military was competent. Our Chief assured we would remain to assist when it became necessary for them to leave. If the Chief is to be believed, is that not some assurance of safety? Why be so callus to their fate? Have we no compassion or feeling of culpability for that fate? Why turn our back and ignore our personal responsibility?
Al Qaeda, Al Shabaab, ISIS, ISIS K, Taliban, et al. Put them in a box, shake them up, close your eyes and pick. Can you tell the difference? Can you pick the terrorist zealot who will be a trustworthy negotiating partner?

By: Pat Freeman

Pat Freeman — Tue, 14 Sep 2021 19:09:40 +0000

@Caeth: “assured their safety” Assured? Who says their safety was assured? My whole point is…. leave the protections of the US boundaries and there is no safety, there is no assurance– no assurance.
Personal responsibility.

Who is the terrorists zealot ?

By: Caeth

Caeth — Tue, 14 Sep 2021 00:19:21 +0000

Never alluded to incompetence of the collectors, just the users. How can you possibly compare one who deserted their post to one who was assured of their safety and remained to long at their post.

By: Pat Freeman

Pat Freeman — Mon, 13 Sep 2021 18:07:30 +0000

“Incompetence” for the intel folks?
Says who? Intel is an art, not a science. Perfection only exists in social media. Based on personal experience, I know our intel people are professional and do great work, so no need to excuse anything.

A “terrorist zealot”- who is that?

In any scenario:
a) personal responsibility or
b) depend on the government

Bergie made a personal choice to desert his post and then relied on the US govt to save his neck.
Does anyone support that approach? If so, apply the standard to the others since FEB2020.

By: Caeth

Caeth — Sun, 12 Sep 2021 22:32:40 +0000

Two faced Pam? The incompetence of those with decades of intelligence and experience is excused. Yet, those who made less than accurate choices when fed false information are left to sink. We won’t help you swim. Also, it’s likely a terrorist zealot is untrustworthy no matter the moniker.

By: Pam Freeman

Pam Freeman — Sat, 11 Sep 2021 21:59:15 +0000

Boise Counseler,
Well no one has 20 years to “plan for an orderly exit”. That is like saying you have 20 years while married to plan for a divorce. “Exits from war” are like most divorces with a much shorter time period, such as 18 months. Please review DoHa FEB2020 before approaching the bench.

Further, Your Honor, the prosecution is 100% inaccurate for the statement yester of of “now Americans in extremely hostile territory”.

Exhibit A. https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/taliban-allow-200-americans-other-civilians-leave-afghanistan-us-official-2021-09-09/
1) those 200 American are not there (now) and was the status when the counselor made the statement- a lie.
2) obviously the Taliban is not as hostile as the counselor believes and they are honoring their agreement to allow Americans to leave.
3) no harm, now foul at this point. the 13 American deaths and wounded were ISIS-k not Taliban.

The statistical Americans there previously for the past 18 months (20 Years) knew it was a dicey proposition. Guess what might happen when you skate on thin ice? The civilians went their voluntarily!!!!!!! And considering their most likely purpose – it is 100% egotisical. Too bad!
Factually, the current admin has done the best possible with a terrible situation. Mission accomplished- Exit Stage Left. The previous admin promoted a terrible deal, lied about the process (home by December) and had 4years to make good on promises, which was ill-guided to begin with and was handed a bad sitution to begin with and only made worse for previous 5 years.

@Caeth- if you travel outside the US protection you might want omniscience knowledge of the rules and the state of governence for your destination. Otherwise, too bad. Don’t rely on US to save your ignorance. The list is very long of dumbsts traveling abroad and getting in trouble.

Yet Caeth wants to pretend “new information” exempts their personal responsibilty at the same time crying upon Biden’s administration actual “new information” of the Afghans are not up to task.
Crying of a “lies” of “the Taliban was weak” and at the same time claiming a defense of new information for those in country. Could you possible be more two-face?
Comments in decline.

By: Boise Lawyer

Boise Lawyer — Sat, 11 Sep 2021 01:28:51 +0000

Pat:

“The 500+ civilians (or whatever accurate number) have had 18 months to get out of Dodge. Too bad!”

No.

The United States had 20 years to plan for an orderly exit. Instead, it appears to have misunderstood the entire situation and consequently misinformed US citizens at home, and there. As a result, there are now Americans in extremely hostile (and newly well-armed) territory.

Remember, those people you reduce to some vague statistic are Americans, from places you know, with families. Some non-trivial number of them will have their heads chopped off.

“Too bad” you say. With all due respect, you’re wrong. Factually, and morally.

By: Caeth

Caeth — Fri, 10 Sep 2021 19:10:48 +0000

Pat, I don’t see how you can so adamantly hold others to such omniscience when times change, circumstances are altered, situations evolve. When new, accurate information comes to light, it may alter your decisions. Ever been divorced?