Comments on: Dirty Tricks On Clean Water

By: Robert Hart

Robert Hart — Tue, 02 Nov 2021 13:02:44 +0000

Doesn’t Idaho have a 500 million dollar savings account right now? Isn’t the US government ready to pass a trillion dollar infrastructure bill? Shouldn’t the developers pay more for infrastructure, as they are reaping all of the benefits? Shouldn’t this bill be named the “Sewer Infrastructure Bond” and not “Water Renewal”? And if you look at the graph over time, and if you want to live in Boise for a while, if you vote yes now, your sewer bill will be $125 a month!

By: Joe Pasini

Joe Pasini — Fri, 22 Oct 2021 19:26:53 +0000

The Idaho Statesman described four major projects in today’s paper (Oct. 21); Lander plant upgrades, recycled water program, expanded capacity at the West Boise facility, and a new facility in southeast Boise. The new facility will primarily support manufacturing. I need to see more info for the $570 million investment for these 4 items before I can make a YES vote. The new facility is probably the most expensive and should receive funding from the corporations and not the citizens of Boise. I agree with the need to address the two existing facilities.

By: GregN

GregN — Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:32:01 +0000

Boise Lawyer: As I understand this involves much more the mandated updates. Understand that leaving blank will not make a difference in the outcome. But if, for example say 20% of total votes voted No, 30% voted Yes and the remaining 50% were blank. It would pass. But I would hope the powers to be would see the 50% were not happy and maybe start to think of a career change come re-election time.

By: Boise Lawyer

Boise Lawyer — Thu, 14 Oct 2021 01:28:36 +0000

GregN:

“Gee what would happen if all or a big percentage voters left it blank?”

Gee here is the answer: the Ada County Clerk would count the votes cast and certify the election for whichever side received more of them.

There is no “none of the above option” because the city of boise is legally required to upgrade its wastewater system. It’s nice of them to ask how you prefer to pay for it and you should express your voice. By voting.

By: GregN

GregN — Tue, 12 Oct 2021 20:46:51 +0000

Received a flyer today Oct 13. Nothing at all informative regarding the sewer, errr I mean water reuse, bond. Wish there would be a “none of the above” option on the ballot. Gee what would happen if all or a big percentage voters left it blank?

By: western guy

western guy — Fri, 01 Oct 2021 22:52:05 +0000

Hey, give Pat Bag a break: the City will to TWO… TWO mailers just before the election, to ‘encourage’ your vote.

There has been NO public engagement, to date.

By: Transparency Bageant?

Transparency Bageant? — Fri, 01 Oct 2021 17:34:55 +0000

Patrick Bageant makes a fine gaslighter.He says that the council and PW commission talked about this numerous times and guess what, no member of the public bothered to show.

However, the City has a 22 member $1.5 million propaganda department called community engagement. And each department also has a PR spokesmouth. Yet apparently they chose not to engage the public. Did they send out postcards? No. Did they do some outreach to newspapers and the guardian and Boise dev to highlight these meetings? No.

But they do appear to propagandize after the fact.

By: Frank

Frank — Thu, 30 Sep 2021 21:30:04 +0000

Thanks for the clarification. I think of bonds being listed on our tax bill.

EDITOR NOTE–These sewer bonds would be REVENUE BONDS repaid by user fees. Bonds repaid with taxes have the “full faith and credit” of citizens and are known as GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.

By: Easterner

Easterner — Thu, 30 Sep 2021 18:16:50 +0000

Great question Frank! Expectedly, users are paying their regular bills based on hook up and volume- water bill. Those users will repay these bonds.

NOTE: the question is for REVENUE Bonds. Last sentence of the city proposal.

The bonds are sold now, and REPAID with future revenue from users – not regular property tax (taxpayers).

Such an arrangement is also used for the Boise airport. Similar but different as to who pays the debt.

I am pretty sure I have not paid much toward the Boise airport. 😉

By: Frank

Frank — Thu, 30 Sep 2021 15:08:55 +0000

Would a bond issue eliminate properties that DON”T pay property tax from participating in the cost? If one looks at the properties between Broadway and 15 st. BSU, St.Lukes and Boise High school probably have more waste in one day than most homes have in a year! This is a question