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		By: Jo Jo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/10/29/ada-elections-advice-for-tuesday/#comment-110143</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jo Jo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2021 15:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave, not so much a comment but a question...

Hoping all is well with you.  Either things have been more quiet around Boise than it appears, or you haven&#039;t been able to post.  Just hoping things are OK...

EDITOR NOTE--Not to worry.  Mostly a lack of motivation.  The fire is not burning so bright in my belly and I don&#039;t want to focus on all the bad as in the legislature&#039;s lack of good sense, the feud with the Guv and Lt. Guv, legislature spending $$$ on losing legal battles, city devious financing of sewer, airport subsidizing Amazon, coppers holding back on facts of mall shooting and shooting death of mental patient.

The list goes on and on.  And politicos keep spending on attracting more people and rooftops.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, not so much a comment but a question&#8230;</p>
<p>Hoping all is well with you.  Either things have been more quiet around Boise than it appears, or you haven&#8217;t been able to post.  Just hoping things are OK&#8230;</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Not to worry.  Mostly a lack of motivation.  The fire is not burning so bright in my belly and I don&#8217;t want to focus on all the bad as in the legislature&#8217;s lack of good sense, the feud with the Guv and Lt. Guv, legislature spending $$$ on losing legal battles, city devious financing of sewer, airport subsidizing Amazon, coppers holding back on facts of mall shooting and shooting death of mental patient.</p>
<p>The list goes on and on.  And politicos keep spending on attracting more people and rooftops.</p>
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		By: Michael Murphy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2021 22:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having worked as a &quot;Deputized Election Official&quot; (Poll Worker) in two elections about a decade ago, I can tell you definitively that City Hall and Boise&#039;s Shadow Government (CCDC, GBAD, DBA, etc.) couldn&#039;t give two shits what the &quot;citizens&quot; around here think because essentially none of them vote.  It&#039;s been said that: &quot;We get the government we deserve&quot;, and that is certainly the case in Boise, where the powers that be laugh at the Facebook / Online indignation and fury from &quot;citizens&quot; who are largely unregistered no-less active voters.  Though produced for an election in Australia about 20 years ago, this video -- &quot;Fascism is Fun&quot; -- neatly and humorously summarizes the state of the electorate . . .  [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhtzFMrpSvI ]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked as a &#8220;Deputized Election Official&#8221; (Poll Worker) in two elections about a decade ago, I can tell you definitively that City Hall and Boise&#8217;s Shadow Government (CCDC, GBAD, DBA, etc.) couldn&#8217;t give two shits what the &#8220;citizens&#8221; around here think because essentially none of them vote.  It&#8217;s been said that: &#8220;We get the government we deserve&#8221;, and that is certainly the case in Boise, where the powers that be laugh at the Facebook / Online indignation and fury from &#8220;citizens&#8221; who are largely unregistered no-less active voters.  Though produced for an election in Australia about 20 years ago, this video &#8212; &#8220;Fascism is Fun&#8221; &#8212; neatly and humorously summarizes the state of the electorate . . .  [ <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhtzFMrpSvI" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhtzFMrpSvI</a> ]</p>
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		By: Boise City is also to blame		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/10/29/ada-elections-advice-for-tuesday/#comment-110102</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boise City is also to blame]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2021 06:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The City intentionally dragged their feet to get the districting map completed until the very last minute so that candidates would have as small of a window to work within as possible. That is also part of the reason for the low voter turnout.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The City intentionally dragged their feet to get the districting map completed until the very last minute so that candidates would have as small of a window to work within as possible. That is also part of the reason for the low voter turnout.</p>
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		By: Election Advice after Math		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Election Advice after Math]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2021 21:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The math says at least 33,917 people voted in the recent city election, (from the sewer voter tally).
80% said yes for the sewer topic.   
If you are in the 20% minority of an issue, it might be good to ask, &quot;is it me?&quot;

In 2017, there was somewhere between 23-24 thousand votes cast for the city races.  
2021 had more voters.   
Let&#039;s compare. 

2017 vs 2021
In 2017 Sanchez got 10396 44.1%     
In 2021  5758 57% of the 10062 in her district.  

In 2017 Woodings got 11953 52.3%    
in 2021 3317 49% of the 6738

In 2017, Thomson got 10953 46.8
Willits in this area got      
3134 55.9 % of 5606 votes           

The districts are supposedly divided somewhat equally.  District 1 had the least amount of voters by a good margin: 5606 compared to 10062. Distric 1 leans more right, due to one demographic, but it has less participation- even when given Red candidates.    
  
That confirms the point that voters in West Boise area just don&#039;t get out to vote and that is why our City Council has been loaded with representation from North and East Boise.
Sanchez and Woodings, both quite left, got comparable representation from the whole city and from their new districts.  

Making districts doesn&#039;t change the outcome- contrary to the intent of the teabaggers that wrote the bill and the traditionalists so perturbed that Boise is so Blue.    
The math proves conseevative spoliltticos wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The math says at least 33,917 people voted in the recent city election, (from the sewer voter tally).<br />
80% said yes for the sewer topic.<br />
If you are in the 20% minority of an issue, it might be good to ask, &#8220;is it me?&#8221;</p>
<p>In 2017, there was somewhere between 23-24 thousand votes cast for the city races.<br />
2021 had more voters.<br />
Let&#8217;s compare. </p>
<p>2017 vs 2021<br />
In 2017 Sanchez got 10396 44.1%<br />
In 2021  5758 57% of the 10062 in her district.  </p>
<p>In 2017 Woodings got 11953 52.3%<br />
in 2021 3317 49% of the 6738</p>
<p>In 2017, Thomson got 10953 46.8<br />
Willits in this area got<br />
3134 55.9 % of 5606 votes           </p>
<p>The districts are supposedly divided somewhat equally.  District 1 had the least amount of voters by a good margin: 5606 compared to 10062. Distric 1 leans more right, due to one demographic, but it has less participation- even when given Red candidates.    </p>
<p>That confirms the point that voters in West Boise area just don&#8217;t get out to vote and that is why our City Council has been loaded with representation from North and East Boise.<br />
Sanchez and Woodings, both quite left, got comparable representation from the whole city and from their new districts.  </p>
<p>Making districts doesn&#8217;t change the outcome- contrary to the intent of the teabaggers that wrote the bill and the traditionalists so perturbed that Boise is so Blue.<br />
The math proves conseevative spoliltticos wrong.</p>
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		By: Pathetic		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/10/29/ada-elections-advice-for-tuesday/#comment-110076</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pathetic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 02:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Vote &quot;yes&quot; on the bond was what 8 out of 10 people who have a brain did, but failed to use their brain to do their own research and critical thinking before falling right into the City&#039;s trap.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vote &#8220;yes&#8221; on the bond was what 8 out of 10 people who have a brain did, but failed to use their brain to do their own research and critical thinking before falling right into the City&#8217;s trap.</p>
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		By: Don't Trust em one damn bit!		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/10/29/ada-elections-advice-for-tuesday/#comment-110068</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don't Trust em one damn bit!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2021 19:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These are after all the same people who attempted to give away very valuable park land to one of their friends for a small fraction of it&#039;s value.  Then played dumb when caught.

As Inna says, they will contaminate all the local ground water, force all wells to be capped, and force all users onto the Suez system.  Suez water will become very expensive due to need for cleaning before use.  And they will be partners with the city in yet another utilities monopoly.  Poisoning the well is profitable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are after all the same people who attempted to give away very valuable park land to one of their friends for a small fraction of it&#8217;s value.  Then played dumb when caught.</p>
<p>As Inna says, they will contaminate all the local ground water, force all wells to be capped, and force all users onto the Suez system.  Suez water will become very expensive due to need for cleaning before use.  And they will be partners with the city in yet another utilities monopoly.  Poisoning the well is profitable.</p>
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		By: Rudy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rudy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2021 17:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please take note of the process today when you vote:   
Valid ID.  
Scanned.  
Address Verification.  
&quot;Ooops wrong polling place&quot; for &#039;does people&#039;.  

And then keep that in mind when you hear politicians and yackers say things about voter fraud and how Idaho needs to make it more restrictive.  

When McGeachin and her fellow IFF puppets repeat the cry of a voter audit, you can remember you did your own personal audit- 
seemed to work just fine, right? 
 
And did anyone pay you to go vote?   
@HowamIdoing?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please take note of the process today when you vote:<br />
Valid ID.<br />
Scanned.<br />
Address Verification.<br />
&#8220;Ooops wrong polling place&#8221; for &#8216;does people&#8217;.  </p>
<p>And then keep that in mind when you hear politicians and yackers say things about voter fraud and how Idaho needs to make it more restrictive.  </p>
<p>When McGeachin and her fellow IFF puppets repeat the cry of a voter audit, you can remember you did your own personal audit-<br />
seemed to work just fine, right? </p>
<p>And did anyone pay you to go vote?<br />
@HowamIdoing?</p>
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		By: Inna		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Inna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2021 19:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For the recycled water to be injected into a public (drinking water) aquifer,  the water has to be separated after use into white and dark components, and then these gets processed separately.
Processed white water gets reused as drinking water.
Processed dark water gets reused as industrial or farming.
This is quite obvious, but costs even more, so nobody will even mention it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the recycled water to be injected into a public (drinking water) aquifer,  the water has to be separated after use into white and dark components, and then these gets processed separately.<br />
Processed white water gets reused as drinking water.<br />
Processed dark water gets reused as industrial or farming.<br />
This is quite obvious, but costs even more, so nobody will even mention it.</p>
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		By: Inna		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2021/10/29/ada-elections-advice-for-tuesday/#comment-110062</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Inna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2021 19:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boise wants to avoid environmental regulations of dumping treated sewer discharge into the river - by dumping it into less regulated (or not at all?) underground water aquifer. They are claiming that if they inject it into the shallow aquifer (from which individual wells usually draw water), the deep aquifer from which Suez draws water for the city will not get contaminated, because the claim is that they are either not connected, or the hope is that layers of soil in between will act as a filter (the issue with it that if the filter gets contaminated it cannot be changed). Whatever the hope, the motivation is to avoid environmental regulation, not to keep river water clean. Besides, keeping surface water clean by contaminating underground water is a dubious trade off, and still costs a lot. In other words, a pretty dumb idea used to extract more taxpayer dollars from voters by claiming some greater good anyways. Some marketing people got paid well to produce the glossy &quot;Vote Yes on Water Bond&quot; mailer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boise wants to avoid environmental regulations of dumping treated sewer discharge into the river &#8211; by dumping it into less regulated (or not at all?) underground water aquifer. They are claiming that if they inject it into the shallow aquifer (from which individual wells usually draw water), the deep aquifer from which Suez draws water for the city will not get contaminated, because the claim is that they are either not connected, or the hope is that layers of soil in between will act as a filter (the issue with it that if the filter gets contaminated it cannot be changed). Whatever the hope, the motivation is to avoid environmental regulation, not to keep river water clean. Besides, keeping surface water clean by contaminating underground water is a dubious trade off, and still costs a lot. In other words, a pretty dumb idea used to extract more taxpayer dollars from voters by claiming some greater good anyways. Some marketing people got paid well to produce the glossy &#8220;Vote Yes on Water Bond&#8221; mailer.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easterner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2021 16:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frank has a __ point- change the public servants.   
Mmm, well we can only elect the top people, a few of them.  Those elected then manage the professionals, in theory.   

It is the professional government employees running most of our lives.  The bureau chiefs and the managers with the ability and authority to make a difference.  

Those professionals are the people we call neighbors. They too have to pay more user fees and taxes. They too are the ones driving on our roads and sending their children to our schools, and using our medical system. And just like the masses, they seldom care to make things better.  
 
It is my belief, those in the know to make things better are also the last interested in doing so- more work and it &#039;rocks the boat&#039;.  People don&#039;t like to the rock the boat, the same boat keeping them afloat.  

In the words of Wally Holmes: 
Said I&#039;d like to know where, you got the notion
To rock the boat, don&#039;t rock the boat baby
Rock the boat, don&#039;t tip the boat over
Rock the boat, don&#039;t rock the boat baby, rock the boat------]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank has a __ point- change the public servants.<br />
Mmm, well we can only elect the top people, a few of them.  Those elected then manage the professionals, in theory.   </p>
<p>It is the professional government employees running most of our lives.  The bureau chiefs and the managers with the ability and authority to make a difference.  </p>
<p>Those professionals are the people we call neighbors. They too have to pay more user fees and taxes. They too are the ones driving on our roads and sending their children to our schools, and using our medical system. And just like the masses, they seldom care to make things better.  </p>
<p>It is my belief, those in the know to make things better are also the last interested in doing so- more work and it &#8216;rocks the boat&#8217;.  People don&#8217;t like to the rock the boat, the same boat keeping them afloat.  </p>
<p>In the words of Wally Holmes:<br />
Said I&#8217;d like to know where, you got the notion<br />
To rock the boat, don&#8217;t rock the boat baby<br />
Rock the boat, don&#8217;t tip the boat over<br />
Rock the boat, don&#8217;t rock the boat baby, rock the boat&#8212;&#8212;</p>
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