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		By: Forced Air		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/02/04/open-beds-or-free-speech/#comment-110564</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2022 02:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let me inject some perspective and other context. I was actively involved with the Occupy Boise movement back in 2011-2012 and it seemed to possess all the right questions of the day about economic and social concerns, but what I found at the end helped me discontinue my association with that expression. It seemed to me that the core thrust of the loudest voices of Occupy were way more concerned with tribal proclivities like oppression hierarchies than things like health care, home foreclosures, income gaps and the like. Your pronouns had to be in order, or your race/gender identity needed to be established. Fighting the &quot;Man&quot; was actually just fighting man, especially white man, any white man. I got sick of that and withdrew my support. There was no coherent plan, other than trying to start a fight with the cops on a coupe of occasions, to address genuine concerns. 

What ended up happening is that the prissy little protesters from Portland and Seattle got tired or ran out of money from mom and dad and they went back home. The camp at the court house hosted a homeless enclave that actual Boiseans tended to and the homeless issues became the remaining cause to fight for. And the Bieter admin failed to deal with it just as the McClean admin has. That&#039;s because government won&#039;t  fix it. Bill Roscoe and/or other serious efforts can fix it. Roscoe is the only one with a track record to show success. 

The protesters at this latest occupation at the court house merely drew fire in an era where the MAJORITY are fed up with noisy Lefists. We&#039;ve seen Antifa/BLM trash cities. That should have been a clue as to how this would go. If homelessness is a real enough problem for those who profess their sympathy for people living on the street, then the $$$ exists in District 19, 18, 17 and 16. Pass the cup and develop a plan to house and set the homeless of Boise on the right path. If Bill Roscoe can do it....you can do it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me inject some perspective and other context. I was actively involved with the Occupy Boise movement back in 2011-2012 and it seemed to possess all the right questions of the day about economic and social concerns, but what I found at the end helped me discontinue my association with that expression. It seemed to me that the core thrust of the loudest voices of Occupy were way more concerned with tribal proclivities like oppression hierarchies than things like health care, home foreclosures, income gaps and the like. Your pronouns had to be in order, or your race/gender identity needed to be established. Fighting the &#8220;Man&#8221; was actually just fighting man, especially white man, any white man. I got sick of that and withdrew my support. There was no coherent plan, other than trying to start a fight with the cops on a coupe of occasions, to address genuine concerns. </p>
<p>What ended up happening is that the prissy little protesters from Portland and Seattle got tired or ran out of money from mom and dad and they went back home. The camp at the court house hosted a homeless enclave that actual Boiseans tended to and the homeless issues became the remaining cause to fight for. And the Bieter admin failed to deal with it just as the McClean admin has. That&#8217;s because government won&#8217;t  fix it. Bill Roscoe and/or other serious efforts can fix it. Roscoe is the only one with a track record to show success. </p>
<p>The protesters at this latest occupation at the court house merely drew fire in an era where the MAJORITY are fed up with noisy Lefists. We&#8217;ve seen Antifa/BLM trash cities. That should have been a clue as to how this would go. If homelessness is a real enough problem for those who profess their sympathy for people living on the street, then the $$$ exists in District 19, 18, 17 and 16. Pass the cup and develop a plan to house and set the homeless of Boise on the right path. If Bill Roscoe can do it&#8230;.you can do it!</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/02/04/open-beds-or-free-speech/#comment-110526</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2022 17:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Covid 19 has taken center stage, in news coverage, for quite some time now. If your livin in the treasure valley you’ve had to notice its growth, somewhat newsworthy.  In the past weeks our elected public servants, at all levels, are talking: property tax relief, affordable housing, homelessness. Not to forget Changing February’s moon name from SNOW moon to C-R-T MOON!  Most issues, if not all having to do with growth throughout our state!
I believe some of the treasure valleys’ growth pains come from unqualified public servants. 
City of Boise, Community Development Senior Manager, Maureen Brewer wants to qualify 5 or so developers? So as to help the City of Boise build affordable housing! On leased property owned by the city? DEVELOPMENT IS IN HER TITLE
The city of Boise bought the land on the corner of Franklin and Orchard about 10 years ago earmarked for affordable housing.  If Maureen can’t get affordable units built for ownership with her crew at city hall, then something or someone, should change. 
City of Boise could sell OUR properties to developers to build apartments.                                                 THIS WOULD PUT PARCELS BACK ON THE TAX ROLE
City of Boise could divide into lots. Sell OUR properties to BUILDERS. Restriction of sizes, sweat labor and interest rates for first time buyers? AFFORDABLE HOUSING?						       THIS WOULD PUT PARCELS BACK ON THE TAX ROLE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS TO BE AFFORDABLE FOR THOSE PAYING FOR IT TOO
And now for something completely different: It would be worth knowing how many parcels from let us say Broadway to 15th and the river to foothills don’t pay property tax? Lots of city, county, state and federal buildings. Parks, Schools, Churches, Hospitals? Let’s not forget the CCDC? Do they pay property taxes? 
If elected public servants are going to give property tax relief?  Maybe it should be doled out to landlords that have kept rent below greedy levels! To maybe help tenants stay in affordable housing? 
Another way to lower property taxes is to make sure we have capable and educated public servants. As We The People are paying for their decisions!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Covid 19 has taken center stage, in news coverage, for quite some time now. If your livin in the treasure valley you’ve had to notice its growth, somewhat newsworthy.  In the past weeks our elected public servants, at all levels, are talking: property tax relief, affordable housing, homelessness. Not to forget Changing February’s moon name from SNOW moon to C-R-T MOON!  Most issues, if not all having to do with growth throughout our state!<br />
I believe some of the treasure valleys’ growth pains come from unqualified public servants.<br />
City of Boise, Community Development Senior Manager, Maureen Brewer wants to qualify 5 or so developers? So as to help the City of Boise build affordable housing! On leased property owned by the city? DEVELOPMENT IS IN HER TITLE<br />
The city of Boise bought the land on the corner of Franklin and Orchard about 10 years ago earmarked for affordable housing.  If Maureen can’t get affordable units built for ownership with her crew at city hall, then something or someone, should change.<br />
City of Boise could sell OUR properties to developers to build apartments.                                                 THIS WOULD PUT PARCELS BACK ON THE TAX ROLE<br />
City of Boise could divide into lots. Sell OUR properties to BUILDERS. Restriction of sizes, sweat labor and interest rates for first time buyers? AFFORDABLE HOUSING?						       THIS WOULD PUT PARCELS BACK ON THE TAX ROLE<br />
AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS TO BE AFFORDABLE FOR THOSE PAYING FOR IT TOO<br />
And now for something completely different: It would be worth knowing how many parcels from let us say Broadway to 15th and the river to foothills don’t pay property tax? Lots of city, county, state and federal buildings. Parks, Schools, Churches, Hospitals? Let’s not forget the CCDC? Do they pay property taxes?<br />
If elected public servants are going to give property tax relief?  Maybe it should be doled out to landlords that have kept rent below greedy levels! To maybe help tenants stay in affordable housing?<br />
Another way to lower property taxes is to make sure we have capable and educated public servants. As We The People are paying for their decisions!</p>
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		By: McLean is worse than Bieter		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/02/04/open-beds-or-free-speech/#comment-110525</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McLean is worse than Bieter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2022 22:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Basically give the homeless and bums and drug addicts the public spaces that taxpayers are supposed to pay for but can’t use.  Wonderful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically give the homeless and bums and drug addicts the public spaces that taxpayers are supposed to pay for but can’t use.  Wonderful.</p>
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		By: Help		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/02/04/open-beds-or-free-speech/#comment-110522</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2022 18:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you can&#039;t afford housing, that is your fault! 

That seems to be Concerned Neighbor&#039;s opinion.  

How about the people complaining about their property tax.  

If you can&#039;t afford your property tax, that is your fault! 

Don&#039;t pay your taxes for long enough and you will be homeless too. That is your fault?  

Really?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can&#8217;t afford housing, that is your fault! </p>
<p>That seems to be Concerned Neighbor&#8217;s opinion.  </p>
<p>How about the people complaining about their property tax.  </p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t afford your property tax, that is your fault! </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t pay your taxes for long enough and you will be homeless too. That is your fault?  </p>
<p>Really?</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/02/04/open-beds-or-free-speech/#comment-110521</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2022 15:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What happened to BUY IDAHO?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to BUY IDAHO?</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/02/04/open-beds-or-free-speech/#comment-110519</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2022 02:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So her official government email?  
Has more of a campaign sway to it than official Lt. Guv business, since the Lt Guv has nothing to do with the grounds maintenance, or directing ISP, and she is not in the chain for AG.  

Typical of the Lt Gov to float her campaign agenda and message while on the clock for taxpayers to foot the bill. ---  Instead of needlessly auditing our election ballots, someone could audit her time &#039;on the clock&#039;.  

Maybe she bought your email address in a list from her CALIFORNIA campaign consultant. Did you know, ya can&#039;t find decent campaign consultants in Idaho?  Gotta send the money out of state.  

Since she was able to donate $200,000 of her own money to her own campaign I doubt she would appreciate my response to being a potential donor. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So her official government email?<br />
Has more of a campaign sway to it than official Lt. Guv business, since the Lt Guv has nothing to do with the grounds maintenance, or directing ISP, and she is not in the chain for AG.  </p>
<p>Typical of the Lt Gov to float her campaign agenda and message while on the clock for taxpayers to foot the bill. &#8212;  Instead of needlessly auditing our election ballots, someone could audit her time &#8216;on the clock&#8217;.  </p>
<p>Maybe she bought your email address in a list from her CALIFORNIA campaign consultant. Did you know, ya can&#8217;t find decent campaign consultants in Idaho?  Gotta send the money out of state.  </p>
<p>Since she was able to donate $200,000 of her own money to her own campaign I doubt she would appreciate my response to being a potential donor. 🙂</p>
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		By: Navilus.55		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2022 01:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Solutions, thank you very much for your kind-hearted comment.  If only there were more people like you in the world!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solutions, thank you very much for your kind-hearted comment.  If only there were more people like you in the world!</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/02/04/open-beds-or-free-speech/#comment-110516</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2022 18:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frank, you beat me to it.  That&#039;s exactly what I thought.  

It&#039;s the fact of McGeachin and her husband pulling free tax dollars in their PPP freebies- over $300,000-  and all the others like CN spending the free stimulus money and then crying about misinformation.  That was 2020, pre-election. Add in the 2018 tax cuts for all businesses.  Who is getting the freebie?   

Lots of business actually needed the Covid &#039;freebie&#039; to sustain a business. Most did not. 
But then to base a campaign on opposing federal support is just asnine.   

Still missing here is where did the Lt Governor&#039;s Press Release come from, in any formal platform?

EDITOR NOTE--The GUARDIAN received the info via email from the Lt. Guv.  It was mixed in with the daily dose of press release flak.  Turns out it was a fund-raising solicitation.  It came from her, has her signature, etc.  Easterner I am sure she would put you on the list of potential donors.  I have no idea how the GUARDIAN got on the list.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, you beat me to it.  That&#8217;s exactly what I thought.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the fact of McGeachin and her husband pulling free tax dollars in their PPP freebies- over $300,000-  and all the others like CN spending the free stimulus money and then crying about misinformation.  That was 2020, pre-election. Add in the 2018 tax cuts for all businesses.  Who is getting the freebie?   </p>
<p>Lots of business actually needed the Covid &#8216;freebie&#8217; to sustain a business. Most did not.<br />
But then to base a campaign on opposing federal support is just asnine.   </p>
<p>Still missing here is where did the Lt Governor&#8217;s Press Release come from, in any formal platform?</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;The GUARDIAN received the info via email from the Lt. Guv.  It was mixed in with the daily dose of press release flak.  Turns out it was a fund-raising solicitation.  It came from her, has her signature, etc.  Easterner I am sure she would put you on the list of potential donors.  I have no idea how the GUARDIAN got on the list.</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/02/04/open-beds-or-free-speech/#comment-110513</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2022 15:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Concerned neighbor writes, &quot;These people are druggies living on tax payers dollars. The “protest” is for more freebies to those than didn’t earn it.&quot; This is a reference to our elected public servants?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerned neighbor writes, &#8220;These people are druggies living on tax payers dollars. The “protest” is for more freebies to those than didn’t earn it.&#8221; This is a reference to our elected public servants?</p>
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		By: Solutions		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/02/04/open-beds-or-free-speech/#comment-110512</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Solutions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2022 06:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[American citizens experiencing dire economic, mental, or addiction problems are being subject to jack booted thugs if they find a tent a better option than being crammed into large warehouses. 

People can’t sleep in “shelters” because any valuables will be stolen, there is violence, and a warehouse full of people is NOISY. Let’s call shelter’s what they are. Night Prison. 

If anyone is naive enough to think a “homeless shelter” is a good idea, try spending a few nights in one. You’ll be crying for Mommy in 2 hours.

Is it too much to want a government that doesn’t terrorize the people it is supposed to protect?

Why not provide a safe, quiet, warm sleeping place, with secure storage for valuables. It doesn’t have to be fancy, or cost much at all.

Solving the “homeless problem” is actually incredibly easy. 

The real problem is a political system where the poorest are criminalized, and treated much worse than animals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American citizens experiencing dire economic, mental, or addiction problems are being subject to jack booted thugs if they find a tent a better option than being crammed into large warehouses. </p>
<p>People can’t sleep in “shelters” because any valuables will be stolen, there is violence, and a warehouse full of people is NOISY. Let’s call shelter’s what they are. Night Prison. </p>
<p>If anyone is naive enough to think a “homeless shelter” is a good idea, try spending a few nights in one. You’ll be crying for Mommy in 2 hours.</p>
<p>Is it too much to want a government that doesn’t terrorize the people it is supposed to protect?</p>
<p>Why not provide a safe, quiet, warm sleeping place, with secure storage for valuables. It doesn’t have to be fancy, or cost much at all.</p>
<p>Solving the “homeless problem” is actually incredibly easy. </p>
<p>The real problem is a political system where the poorest are criminalized, and treated much worse than animals.</p>
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