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		By: Forced Air		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/03/24/did-gov-violate-oath-with-abortion-law/#comment-110662</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Forced Air]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2022 01:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The question is not complicated....it&#039;s the answer that elicits the storm....

When does life of a human begin? 

Which then elicits the next set of questions...

How do you value that life?

Who speaks for that life?

Do you prohibit the continuation of that life and why?

Who takes responsibility for that life?

The answer should be simple enough, but it always takes on too many facets of interest from many sectors. Things have become so warped now that there are states contemplating infanticide post-birth because they still can&#039;t decide the value of human life. 

To me, I see the likes of Klaus Schwab and his highest mentor...Yuval Noah Harari....who claims that “There are no gods, no nations, no money and no human rights, except in our collective imagination.” 

Wow! 

Who is &quot;our&quot; collective? 

A collective that HE envisions, I&#039;m sure. 

NO...HUMAN...RIGHTS

When does human life begin? 

Who decides and why?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is not complicated&#8230;.it&#8217;s the answer that elicits the storm&#8230;.</p>
<p>When does life of a human begin? </p>
<p>Which then elicits the next set of questions&#8230;</p>
<p>How do you value that life?</p>
<p>Who speaks for that life?</p>
<p>Do you prohibit the continuation of that life and why?</p>
<p>Who takes responsibility for that life?</p>
<p>The answer should be simple enough, but it always takes on too many facets of interest from many sectors. Things have become so warped now that there are states contemplating infanticide post-birth because they still can&#8217;t decide the value of human life. </p>
<p>To me, I see the likes of Klaus Schwab and his highest mentor&#8230;Yuval Noah Harari&#8230;.who claims that “There are no gods, no nations, no money and no human rights, except in our collective imagination.” </p>
<p>Wow! </p>
<p>Who is &#8220;our&#8221; collective? </p>
<p>A collective that HE envisions, I&#8217;m sure. </p>
<p>NO&#8230;HUMAN&#8230;RIGHTS</p>
<p>When does human life begin? </p>
<p>Who decides and why?</p>
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		By: Gump Fest		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/03/24/did-gov-violate-oath-with-abortion-law/#comment-110627</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gump Fest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2022 23:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[there are alot of experts about our constitution   lolllllllll 
about the same number, minus 9, of idiots]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are alot of experts about our constitution   lolllllllll<br />
about the same number, minus 9, of idiots</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/03/24/did-gov-violate-oath-with-abortion-law/#comment-110626</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2022 18:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not in favor of abortion or having public servants telling someone what to do with their body.From abortions to vaccinations to crossing state lines and killing people. 
The irony of the abortion bill in the same week as deciding about the secrecy of drug manufactures for cocktails given to death row customers. Austin City Limits!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not in favor of abortion or having public servants telling someone what to do with their body.From abortions to vaccinations to crossing state lines and killing people.<br />
The irony of the abortion bill in the same week as deciding about the secrecy of drug manufactures for cocktails given to death row customers. Austin City Limits!</p>
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		By: Bubba		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/03/24/did-gov-violate-oath-with-abortion-law/#comment-110624</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bubba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2022 00:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s obvious to me that states have the right to regulate procedures like abortion under the 10th amendment.  This law recently passed in Idaho attempts to do an end run around the unconstitutional legal opinion of Roe from 50 years ago.  The Burger court from back then had to fabricate a dubious interpretation of the Constitution&#039;s 14th amendment in order to invalidate state abortion laws, and it should be clear to anyone with an unbiased view of the Constitution that Roe is incorrect and should be overturned.

Simply put, if you wanted to make abortion of any sort legal nationwide you would have to pass a new amendment to the Constitution abridging the rights of states to make laws outside of federal purview.  Saying that the Constitution says something that it clearly doesn&#039;t is not sufficient.  The false Roe opinion was much easier to obtain at the time than a new amendment requiring affirmation by 3/4 of the states.  The Supreme Court overstepped their authority, and that authority needs to be returned to the states where it belongs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s obvious to me that states have the right to regulate procedures like abortion under the 10th amendment.  This law recently passed in Idaho attempts to do an end run around the unconstitutional legal opinion of Roe from 50 years ago.  The Burger court from back then had to fabricate a dubious interpretation of the Constitution&#8217;s 14th amendment in order to invalidate state abortion laws, and it should be clear to anyone with an unbiased view of the Constitution that Roe is incorrect and should be overturned.</p>
<p>Simply put, if you wanted to make abortion of any sort legal nationwide you would have to pass a new amendment to the Constitution abridging the rights of states to make laws outside of federal purview.  Saying that the Constitution says something that it clearly doesn&#8217;t is not sufficient.  The false Roe opinion was much easier to obtain at the time than a new amendment requiring affirmation by 3/4 of the states.  The Supreme Court overstepped their authority, and that authority needs to be returned to the states where it belongs.</p>
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		By: rabula		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/03/24/did-gov-violate-oath-with-abortion-law/#comment-110623</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rabula]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2022 00:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If Republicans write in Shelby Rognstadt, will it count?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Republicans write in Shelby Rognstadt, will it count?</p>
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		By: Concerned Neighbor		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/03/24/did-gov-violate-oath-with-abortion-law/#comment-110616</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Concerned Neighbor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2022 03:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We live in the Marketing Society where everyone wants their comfortable lie over and uncomfortable truth. Politicians are liars because most voters demand they be.

IMO, government needs to GTFO of people&#039;s personal lives and decisions.  If it doesn&#039;t hurt society then don&#039;t touch it.  On that vein, I&#039;d be happy if they legalized all drugs... as long as the druggie had no dependents, were sterilized, and never allowed any public welfare from that point on.

Legalized abortion in the 70&#039;s led to crime dropping by half by the mid 90&#039;s.  Not all children are wanted.  Steven Levitt proved that in 2001, and Abel Francois again proved it in 2014.  The alternative is back alley abortions and girls bleeding to death.  Talk to people in their 70s and they likely knew someone that happened to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We live in the Marketing Society where everyone wants their comfortable lie over and uncomfortable truth. Politicians are liars because most voters demand they be.</p>
<p>IMO, government needs to GTFO of people&#8217;s personal lives and decisions.  If it doesn&#8217;t hurt society then don&#8217;t touch it.  On that vein, I&#8217;d be happy if they legalized all drugs&#8230; as long as the druggie had no dependents, were sterilized, and never allowed any public welfare from that point on.</p>
<p>Legalized abortion in the 70&#8217;s led to crime dropping by half by the mid 90&#8217;s.  Not all children are wanted.  Steven Levitt proved that in 2001, and Abel Francois again proved it in 2014.  The alternative is back alley abortions and girls bleeding to death.  Talk to people in their 70s and they likely knew someone that happened to.</p>
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		By: Maurice		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/03/24/did-gov-violate-oath-with-abortion-law/#comment-110614</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maurice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2022 18:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom, most of Idaho legislation is a copy/paste of other states, ALEC, or some other bias bill generator.  Anything coming from the ultra-righteous IFF is a repeat of other states- e.g. Eharts transgender athlete bill. 

Dumb people have a tough time coming up with original complicated legal ease. Self included.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, most of Idaho legislation is a copy/paste of other states, ALEC, or some other bias bill generator.  Anything coming from the ultra-righteous IFF is a repeat of other states- e.g. Eharts transgender athlete bill. </p>
<p>Dumb people have a tough time coming up with original complicated legal ease. Self included.</p>
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		By: Caeth		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/03/24/did-gov-violate-oath-with-abortion-law/#comment-110613</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caeth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2022 17:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jo Jo: &quot; clearly knows the bill is likely unconstitutional&quot; Then does he also know there&#039;s a chance it may not be likely? If so, where did he &quot;definitely&quot; violate the oath?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jo Jo: &#8221; clearly knows the bill is likely unconstitutional&#8221; Then does he also know there&#8217;s a chance it may not be likely? If so, where did he &#8220;definitely&#8221; violate the oath?</p>
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		By: Jo Jo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/03/24/did-gov-violate-oath-with-abortion-law/#comment-110612</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jo Jo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2022 16:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, most definitely the governor violated his oath.  Talk about trying to thread the needle:  Little clearly knows the bill is likely unconstitutional, but he also knows the with the primary coming up he couldn&#039;t veto it, either.  I used to respect Little, but between his COVID response and things like this, he definitely turned into a coward more interested in getting reelected instead of doing the right thing.  Just sad.

As a side note, this one is going to cost us more money from the &quot;Constitutional Defense Fund&quot;, since I have zero doubts everyone will ignore the legal advice already provided by the AG&#039;s office.  Politicians can pander all they want, but when it starts to hit my wallet, they surely should be punished.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, most definitely the governor violated his oath.  Talk about trying to thread the needle:  Little clearly knows the bill is likely unconstitutional, but he also knows the with the primary coming up he couldn&#8217;t veto it, either.  I used to respect Little, but between his COVID response and things like this, he definitely turned into a coward more interested in getting reelected instead of doing the right thing.  Just sad.</p>
<p>As a side note, this one is going to cost us more money from the &#8220;Constitutional Defense Fund&#8221;, since I have zero doubts everyone will ignore the legal advice already provided by the AG&#8217;s office.  Politicians can pander all they want, but when it starts to hit my wallet, they surely should be punished.</p>
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		By: Boise Lawyer		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/03/24/did-gov-violate-oath-with-abortion-law/#comment-110611</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boise Lawyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2022 15:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To be honest I have never understood how to analyze the exact boundary of what counts as violating the oath to uphold the existing laws in situations involving new legislation.

For instance, a hyper-technical reading of the oath to &quot;uphold the laws of the state of Idaho&quot; would bar a legislature and governor from repealing any existing state law. That&#039;s obviously not what it means!

Nor, surely, does it mean that the governor of Idaho has to put on his SCOTUS hat and make correct predictions of future rulings on constitutional law. The oath shouldn&#039;t require, for instance, that Little accurately predict the fate of Roe when signing state legislation.

Finally, the oath has to mean something slightly different for the governor (an executive) than it does for a senator (a legislator). That&#039;s because the executive is also responsible for enforcing the law whereas the legislature is responsible for making it. &quot;Uphold&quot; has different implications the guy in charge of the ISP than it does for a policy maker. 

I think in the end the oath is most important for its symbolism, because although vague in the foregoing details it is still a public commitment to the rule of law. When measuring a violation, what matters most is probably how an official describes their actions rather than what the actions actually are. A statement like, &quot;This is unconstitutional and will be struck down but I&#039;m signing it anyway&quot; would be an oath violation because it is blatant in its disrespect of the law. But a statement like, &quot;I fear this is unconstitutional and unwise and I sign it reluctantly&quot; still demonstrates respect for the rule of law -- it probably leaves him safely in the gray area, and on the safe side of the oath.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest I have never understood how to analyze the exact boundary of what counts as violating the oath to uphold the existing laws in situations involving new legislation.</p>
<p>For instance, a hyper-technical reading of the oath to &#8220;uphold the laws of the state of Idaho&#8221; would bar a legislature and governor from repealing any existing state law. That&#8217;s obviously not what it means!</p>
<p>Nor, surely, does it mean that the governor of Idaho has to put on his SCOTUS hat and make correct predictions of future rulings on constitutional law. The oath shouldn&#8217;t require, for instance, that Little accurately predict the fate of Roe when signing state legislation.</p>
<p>Finally, the oath has to mean something slightly different for the governor (an executive) than it does for a senator (a legislator). That&#8217;s because the executive is also responsible for enforcing the law whereas the legislature is responsible for making it. &#8220;Uphold&#8221; has different implications the guy in charge of the ISP than it does for a policy maker. </p>
<p>I think in the end the oath is most important for its symbolism, because although vague in the foregoing details it is still a public commitment to the rule of law. When measuring a violation, what matters most is probably how an official describes their actions rather than what the actions actually are. A statement like, &#8220;This is unconstitutional and will be struck down but I&#8217;m signing it anyway&#8221; would be an oath violation because it is blatant in its disrespect of the law. But a statement like, &#8220;I fear this is unconstitutional and unwise and I sign it reluctantly&#8221; still demonstrates respect for the rule of law &#8212; it probably leaves him safely in the gray area, and on the safe side of the oath.</p>
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