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		By: Forced Air		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/04/11/council-district-commission-important-move/#comment-110725</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Forced Air]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2022 16:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just love how there is this BRAND loyalty to the &quot;wise men and women&quot; that carry Establishment credentials to &quot;fix&quot; our problems for us. Who do you think the interested parties swarm to influence at parties and gatherings and any other lobbying opportunity in order to secure the future of agendas and big plans? The very Establishment cadres of &quot;wise mean and women.&quot; 

I only knew of ONE guy, that was my nextdoor neighbor who was a chief engineer for ACHD way back when, that confronted outright corruption in the face, only to be threatened and chased out of ACHD after he gathered documentary evidence re the special relationships surrounding the ACHD. Media didn&#039;t want anything to do with his experience. He told me his story 20 years after the fact. He moved out of state shortly after. 

The post above me lists all of these Establishment icons....one of them former BSU president Bob Kustra, who openly encourages everyone to register as a Republican and alter primary outcomes. How honest is THAT? 

I am sick of the vaunted Establishment manipulators driving the agendas that will make Boise a New Portland ASAP. They hate the Constitution and real freedom. They would have us sign up for Klaus Schwab&#039;s New World Order in a heartbeat and call it a family value.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just love how there is this BRAND loyalty to the &#8220;wise men and women&#8221; that carry Establishment credentials to &#8220;fix&#8221; our problems for us. Who do you think the interested parties swarm to influence at parties and gatherings and any other lobbying opportunity in order to secure the future of agendas and big plans? The very Establishment cadres of &#8220;wise mean and women.&#8221; </p>
<p>I only knew of ONE guy, that was my nextdoor neighbor who was a chief engineer for ACHD way back when, that confronted outright corruption in the face, only to be threatened and chased out of ACHD after he gathered documentary evidence re the special relationships surrounding the ACHD. Media didn&#8217;t want anything to do with his experience. He told me his story 20 years after the fact. He moved out of state shortly after. </p>
<p>The post above me lists all of these Establishment icons&#8230;.one of them former BSU president Bob Kustra, who openly encourages everyone to register as a Republican and alter primary outcomes. How honest is THAT? </p>
<p>I am sick of the vaunted Establishment manipulators driving the agendas that will make Boise a New Portland ASAP. They hate the Constitution and real freedom. They would have us sign up for Klaus Schwab&#8217;s New World Order in a heartbeat and call it a family value.</p>
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		By: David Klinger		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/04/11/council-district-commission-important-move/#comment-110696</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Klinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Every city possesses a cadre of &quot;wise men&quot; and &quot;wise women&quot; who have been dedicated public servants, who possess responsible and judicious temperaments, and who have no stake in the outcome of the city redistricting process.  They are just locally respected statesmen and stateswomen who can intelligently preside over a process that will largely be dictated by hard demographic data and fashioned by GIS specialists anyway.  We simply should take the process out of the hands of those who have a vested interest in the outcome of redistricting (the mayor and incumbent City Council members) and let the wise elders preside over a process that Boise is really overthinking.  It&#039;s not that hard to draw six roughly equal districts for future City Council elections and successfully conclude it up by the end of 2022.  Who are such seasoned and respected leaders locally?  In another time, the universally-admired Cecil Andrus would have been at the top of the list.  Others?  Former Governor Phil Batt comes to mind ... former Idaho Secretary of State Ben Ysursa ... former mayor and Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne ... retired Idaho Supreme Court Justice James Jones ... former state senator Cherie Buckner-Webb ... former Illinois lieutenant governor and BSU president  Bob Kustra.  Good, experienced people.  Regardless of party or partisan public opinions about such individuals, one can&#039;t argue against their breadth of experience and dedication to public service, as well as their stable and reasoned intellect, qualifying them to preside over a process that is largely magisterial in nature.  City fathers have wrapped themselves around the axle over-thinking the districting process, while several of them continue to bemoan the entire concept of district representation (most cities have it, Boise is the outlier).  Better this entire process be divorced from city government involvement entirely.  Let the mechanics of districting be independent and insulated from the day-to-day machinations of City Hall, and let the respected &quot;graybeards&quot; keep the process moving smoothly and dispassionately.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every city possesses a cadre of &#8220;wise men&#8221; and &#8220;wise women&#8221; who have been dedicated public servants, who possess responsible and judicious temperaments, and who have no stake in the outcome of the city redistricting process.  They are just locally respected statesmen and stateswomen who can intelligently preside over a process that will largely be dictated by hard demographic data and fashioned by GIS specialists anyway.  We simply should take the process out of the hands of those who have a vested interest in the outcome of redistricting (the mayor and incumbent City Council members) and let the wise elders preside over a process that Boise is really overthinking.  It&#8217;s not that hard to draw six roughly equal districts for future City Council elections and successfully conclude it up by the end of 2022.  Who are such seasoned and respected leaders locally?  In another time, the universally-admired Cecil Andrus would have been at the top of the list.  Others?  Former Governor Phil Batt comes to mind &#8230; former Idaho Secretary of State Ben Ysursa &#8230; former mayor and Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne &#8230; retired Idaho Supreme Court Justice James Jones &#8230; former state senator Cherie Buckner-Webb &#8230; former Illinois lieutenant governor and BSU president  Bob Kustra.  Good, experienced people.  Regardless of party or partisan public opinions about such individuals, one can&#8217;t argue against their breadth of experience and dedication to public service, as well as their stable and reasoned intellect, qualifying them to preside over a process that is largely magisterial in nature.  City fathers have wrapped themselves around the axle over-thinking the districting process, while several of them continue to bemoan the entire concept of district representation (most cities have it, Boise is the outlier).  Better this entire process be divorced from city government involvement entirely.  Let the mechanics of districting be independent and insulated from the day-to-day machinations of City Hall, and let the respected &#8220;graybeards&#8221; keep the process moving smoothly and dispassionately.</p>
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		By: Diane C Stearns		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/04/11/council-district-commission-important-move/#comment-110677</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diane C Stearns]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2022 00:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t think of one person who would be more qualified (as well as honest and non-political too) than RICHARD LLEWELLYN, who has been fighting for several years to stop the big greedy developers like CBH Trilogy in order to save Old Hill Road and the Northwest portion of Boise from being destroyed by hi-rise apartment buildings and even heavier traffic.  Please pass his name along to anyone and everyone who will be making the choice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t think of one person who would be more qualified (as well as honest and non-political too) than RICHARD LLEWELLYN, who has been fighting for several years to stop the big greedy developers like CBH Trilogy in order to save Old Hill Road and the Northwest portion of Boise from being destroyed by hi-rise apartment buildings and even heavier traffic.  Please pass his name along to anyone and everyone who will be making the choice.</p>
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		By: Frank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2022 14:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe if we refereed to our elected public servants as elected public servants they would feel obligated to work for the public?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe if we refereed to our elected public servants as elected public servants they would feel obligated to work for the public?</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/04/11/council-district-commission-important-move/#comment-110675</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bikeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2022 14:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boise Lawyer believes &quot;skills for the task at hand&quot; is an important qualifier - for the commission AND for elected office.

It&#039;s hard to disagree with that.  (I&#039;m confident there are people with the necessary skills scattered throughout our fine community.  Surely they don&#039;t ALL live in the north and east ends!)

Another slightly-off-topic observation... it seems apparent that America&#039;s voters aren&#039;t particularly fussy about &quot;skills for the task at hand&quot; - look at our elected &quot;public servants&quot; back in Washington, DC!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boise Lawyer believes &#8220;skills for the task at hand&#8221; is an important qualifier &#8211; for the commission AND for elected office.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to disagree with that.  (I&#8217;m confident there are people with the necessary skills scattered throughout our fine community.  Surely they don&#8217;t ALL live in the north and east ends!)</p>
<p>Another slightly-off-topic observation&#8230; it seems apparent that America&#8217;s voters aren&#8217;t particularly fussy about &#8220;skills for the task at hand&#8221; &#8211; look at our elected &#8220;public servants&#8221; back in Washington, DC!</p>
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		By: PD		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/04/11/council-district-commission-important-move/#comment-110672</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2022 23:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The County Clerk seems like the only likely &quot;1-person&quot; to do the task.   Albeit political.  
An unbias jury or investigation (ie investigating a BPD incident) is always chosen from outside the area. 

Maybe Forced Air is available.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The County Clerk seems like the only likely &#8220;1-person&#8221; to do the task.   Albeit political.<br />
An unbias jury or investigation (ie investigating a BPD incident) is always chosen from outside the area. </p>
<p>Maybe Forced Air is available.</p>
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		By: Dave Kangas		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/04/11/council-district-commission-important-move/#comment-110671</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Kangas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, past actions by the City Council and statements made combined with this proposed &quot;commissioner disatrict map&quot; cast a lot of doubt on the &quot;independece of the process&quot;. 
 
Populations range from 23,000+ in the NW area to 100,000 in the combined Central Bench and West Boise. 



https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/25ee252b25774b1c9572bd1f521e248c]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, past actions by the City Council and statements made combined with this proposed &#8220;commissioner disatrict map&#8221; cast a lot of doubt on the &#8220;independece of the process&#8221;. </p>
<p>Populations range from 23,000+ in the NW area to 100,000 in the combined Central Bench and West Boise. </p>
<p><a href="https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/25ee252b25774b1c9572bd1f521e248c" rel="nofollow ugc">https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/25ee252b25774b1c9572bd1f521e248c</a></p>
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		By: Dave Kangas		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/04/11/council-district-commission-important-move/#comment-110670</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Kangas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great points, Meridian ordiance &quot;Voting members of the Meridian Districting Committee shall include six (6) Meridian
residents from diverse geographic areas of Meridian, to include at least one (1) individual
who resides south of Interstate 84, one (1) individual who resides north of Ustick Road,
one (1) individual who resides west of Meridian Road, and one (1) individual who resides
east of Meridian Road. The six (6) Committee members shall be voting members, and
shall serve without salary or compensation for their service.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points, Meridian ordiance &#8220;Voting members of the Meridian Districting Committee shall include six (6) Meridian<br />
residents from diverse geographic areas of Meridian, to include at least one (1) individual<br />
who resides south of Interstate 84, one (1) individual who resides north of Ustick Road,<br />
one (1) individual who resides west of Meridian Road, and one (1) individual who resides<br />
east of Meridian Road. The six (6) Committee members shall be voting members, and<br />
shall serve without salary or compensation for their service.</p>
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		By: Kent Goldthorpe		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/04/11/council-district-commission-important-move/#comment-110668</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kent Goldthorpe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2022 12:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is no need for a commission, period.   An honest  individual taking an honest look with good gis capability will take care of all the constitutional requirements.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no need for a commission, period.   An honest  individual taking an honest look with good gis capability will take care of all the constitutional requirements.</p>
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		By: Boise Lawyer		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/04/11/council-district-commission-important-move/#comment-110666</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boise Lawyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2022 03:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;their talent, not residence location is most important&quot;

I couldn&#039;t agree more. When it comes to appointing an important body, the members&#039; skills for the task at hand, not the address where they sleep at night, is what will serve the city best. The same is true of the council itself, and that&#039;s the reason I also happen to think going to districts was a bad idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;their talent, not residence location is most important&#8221;</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. When it comes to appointing an important body, the members&#8217; skills for the task at hand, not the address where they sleep at night, is what will serve the city best. The same is true of the council itself, and that&#8217;s the reason I also happen to think going to districts was a bad idea.</p>
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