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		By: SCM		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/07/12/a-growthophobes-lament/#comment-110931</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2022 21:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I moved from Seattle in February and I am happily adapting to my new way of life.  In Seattle I would be labeled many horrible names because of the way I believe. I am finally home.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved from Seattle in February and I am happily adapting to my new way of life.  In Seattle I would be labeled many horrible names because of the way I believe. I am finally home.</p>
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		By: PD		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/07/12/a-growthophobes-lament/#comment-110909</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2022 17:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[oh yeah, here is the famous quote for all those political California refugees  


&quot;go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yeah, here is the famous quote for all those political California refugees  </p>
<p>&#8220;go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came&#8221;</p>
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		By: PD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2022 21:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[?Condensed, 
1) Pick up your dog crap. 
2) Swap your California or Oregon license plates for Idaho tags within 90 days. 
3) Know and respect your neighbors.  
4) Recycle those glossy magazines from realtors that lured you here. 
5) Remember others are getting unfairly priced out of a city now on growth steroids.
6) Know and respect others. 
7) Humanize your driving habits. 
8) Assume your new Idaho citizenship.  
9) Repeat #6.  
10) Appreciate all of the good qualities of this place.

ha!  

A better Top 10 wrapped into 1. 
1-10) DON&#039;T CREATE PROBLEMS HERE, INSTEAD, GO BACK TO WHERE YOU LEFT AND FIX YOUR PROBLEMS THERE.  

West Virginia just called Klinger.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>?Condensed,<br />
1) Pick up your dog crap.<br />
2) Swap your California or Oregon license plates for Idaho tags within 90 days.<br />
3) Know and respect your neighbors.<br />
4) Recycle those glossy magazines from realtors that lured you here.<br />
5) Remember others are getting unfairly priced out of a city now on growth steroids.<br />
6) Know and respect others.<br />
7) Humanize your driving habits.<br />
8) Assume your new Idaho citizenship.<br />
9) Repeat #6.<br />
10) Appreciate all of the good qualities of this place.</p>
<p>ha!  </p>
<p>A better Top 10 wrapped into 1.<br />
1-10) DON&#8217;T CREATE PROBLEMS HERE, INSTEAD, GO BACK TO WHERE YOU LEFT AND FIX YOUR PROBLEMS THERE.  </p>
<p>West Virginia just called Klinger.</p>
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		By: Klingon		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/07/12/a-growthophobes-lament/#comment-110895</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2022 19:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The traffic isn’t bad here.  Nor are the taxes. Pace of life is silly and subjective. 

And gee, you met Ceece once. Good for you. 

I’m glad you value your opinion so highly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The traffic isn’t bad here.  Nor are the taxes. Pace of life is silly and subjective. </p>
<p>And gee, you met Ceece once. Good for you. </p>
<p>I’m glad you value your opinion so highly.</p>
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		By: Casmir		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2022 18:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perfect! As multi-generational, lifelong Idahoan, I fully concur with your list.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect! As multi-generational, lifelong Idahoan, I fully concur with your list.</p>
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		By: Easterner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2022 18:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Boise is a great place to live!

I certainly do not want to live in North Idaho or Eastern Idaho.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Boise is a great place to live!</p>
<p>I certainly do not want to live in North Idaho or Eastern Idaho.</p>
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		By: Dave Kangas		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2022/07/12/a-growthophobes-lament/#comment-110889</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2022 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you areconcerned about growth in Boise you should either leave or do something about it. Boise&#039;s Zoning Code Rewrite revisions just came out Tuesday. The changes basically do away with any single family zoning, unless you live in a historic district, a special plan area, large lot overlay or a new subdivision with an HOA and HOA or CCR&#039;s. Transit coridors, transition zones and strategic infill will rule the day with high desnity infill. It&#039;s coming with a full head of steam, so change is doubling, tripling even quadrupling down, while limiting your voice in the public process. But of course, your votes matters- at election time and when they want an aditional 3% in property taxes. Here is the video from Tuesdays work session. The zcr update begins at 20 minutes.
 http://boisecityid.iqm2.com/Citizens/SplitView.aspx?Mode=Video&#038;MeetingID=4230&#038;Format=Minutes]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you areconcerned about growth in Boise you should either leave or do something about it. Boise&#8217;s Zoning Code Rewrite revisions just came out Tuesday. The changes basically do away with any single family zoning, unless you live in a historic district, a special plan area, large lot overlay or a new subdivision with an HOA and HOA or CCR&#8217;s. Transit coridors, transition zones and strategic infill will rule the day with high desnity infill. It&#8217;s coming with a full head of steam, so change is doubling, tripling even quadrupling down, while limiting your voice in the public process. But of course, your votes matters- at election time and when they want an aditional 3% in property taxes. Here is the video from Tuesdays work session. The zcr update begins at 20 minutes.<br />
 <a href="http://boisecityid.iqm2.com/Citizens/SplitView.aspx?Mode=Video&#038;MeetingID=4230&#038;Format=Minutes" rel="nofollow ugc">http://boisecityid.iqm2.com/Citizens/SplitView.aspx?Mode=Video&#038;MeetingID=4230&#038;Format=Minutes</a></p>
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		By: Bubba		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2022 15:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree, but we are likely seeing the tail end of California or out-of-state money coming in to local real estate.  The Federal Reserve is slamming the door shut on real estate speculation with the rise in interest rates.  On the table is a collapse of the bubble, from a near $600,000 median sale price in Ada County, down to sub-$200,000 median prices in the next few years.  I think it&#039;s really understated in the media/real estate industry how much of the price surge was due to investor activity rather than actual end user demand.  That said, many end users bought houses with 5% or less down and were basically underwater from day 1.  They have very little capital invested, and won&#039;t think twice about walking away when prices dip low enough.  Home &quot;equity&quot; will prove to be a mirage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, but we are likely seeing the tail end of California or out-of-state money coming in to local real estate.  The Federal Reserve is slamming the door shut on real estate speculation with the rise in interest rates.  On the table is a collapse of the bubble, from a near $600,000 median sale price in Ada County, down to sub-$200,000 median prices in the next few years.  I think it&#8217;s really understated in the media/real estate industry how much of the price surge was due to investor activity rather than actual end user demand.  That said, many end users bought houses with 5% or less down and were basically underwater from day 1.  They have very little capital invested, and won&#8217;t think twice about walking away when prices dip low enough.  Home &#8220;equity&#8221; will prove to be a mirage.</p>
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		By: David Klinger		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2022 03:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Contrary to the comments, I first started coming to Boise on government business in the early 1990s, about 30 years ago.  That doesn&#039;t make me a native, but it does give me a bit of perspective on how this city has changed.  Many of the changes have been good.  But I think many of us can agree that the unusually rapid acceleration of growth over the past 5-10 years has sacrificed some of the qualities that have made Boise so special as a big small town.  Traffic congestion, escalating taxes, unaffordable homes, and an increasingly frantic pace to life are hardly a good or equal  trade for the latest trendy alehouse or food cart, in my humble opinion.  One of the first months I was finally here as a resident, while walking down the street Cecil Andrus stuck out his hand and remembered my name from about 30 years prior.  I miss that, and wonder whether Boise will still possess those indefinable qualities that have make life here so rich, when our  downtown becomes nothing but condo canyons and we no longer know our neighbors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to the comments, I first started coming to Boise on government business in the early 1990s, about 30 years ago.  That doesn&#8217;t make me a native, but it does give me a bit of perspective on how this city has changed.  Many of the changes have been good.  But I think many of us can agree that the unusually rapid acceleration of growth over the past 5-10 years has sacrificed some of the qualities that have made Boise so special as a big small town.  Traffic congestion, escalating taxes, unaffordable homes, and an increasingly frantic pace to life are hardly a good or equal  trade for the latest trendy alehouse or food cart, in my humble opinion.  One of the first months I was finally here as a resident, while walking down the street Cecil Andrus stuck out his hand and remembered my name from about 30 years prior.  I miss that, and wonder whether Boise will still possess those indefinable qualities that have make life here so rich, when our  downtown becomes nothing but condo canyons and we no longer know our neighbors.</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2022 02:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I appreciate the sentiments and feel much the same... although it does seem rather ironic that a guy who arrived 10 years ago is lamenting how Boise used to be.

It&#039;s all relative, I s&#039;pose.

I was born at the old St. Alphonsus Hospital downtown, 68 years ago... so imagine how an old coot like me feels about the changes!

There&#039;s not much I can do about it, but the Boise I grew up in was a MUCH nicer place than nowadays, or even 10 years ago.  Back when the Statehouse and Hotel Boise were the tallest structures... Curtis Road was out in the sticks!  When they built the Hillcrest Shopping Center, it seemed vast - they had zoo-animal cutouts on the parking lot light posts, so you could keep track of where you parked!  I&#039;d gladly give up the double-decker stadium and connector and mall to go back.  (I&#039;d like to keep the Greenbelt.  THAT little bit of 2022 Boise is WAY nicer.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the sentiments and feel much the same&#8230; although it does seem rather ironic that a guy who arrived 10 years ago is lamenting how Boise used to be.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all relative, I s&#8217;pose.</p>
<p>I was born at the old St. Alphonsus Hospital downtown, 68 years ago&#8230; so imagine how an old coot like me feels about the changes!</p>
<p>There&#8217;s not much I can do about it, but the Boise I grew up in was a MUCH nicer place than nowadays, or even 10 years ago.  Back when the Statehouse and Hotel Boise were the tallest structures&#8230; Curtis Road was out in the sticks!  When they built the Hillcrest Shopping Center, it seemed vast &#8211; they had zoo-animal cutouts on the parking lot light posts, so you could keep track of where you parked!  I&#8217;d gladly give up the double-decker stadium and connector and mall to go back.  (I&#8217;d like to keep the Greenbelt.  THAT little bit of 2022 Boise is WAY nicer.)</p>
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