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BIGGER Isn’t Better, BETTER Is Better

The downtown deciders need to take lesson from the previous Bronco Football God, Dan Hawkins who once proclaimed that “Bigger isn’t better, better is better.”

The Sunday DAILY PAPER has a story by Cynthia Sewell detailing the the “options” for a new convention center. One of the ideas would involve demolishing a newly constructed county family advocacy facility.

The latest expenditure for a “consultant” yielded at least two potential locations for a new convention center, but neither is for sale and voters have repeatedly voted down any new center. Lest we forget, there is another move by Boise Mayor Dave Bieter and Team Dave to build a baseball park as well–despite the pending construction of a ball park, track, athletic field at the site of the old East Junior High by BSU.

Despite the incestuous relationship between the G-BAD boys and the Boise Convention and Visitors Bureau (a non-profit ad agency), there is anything but agreement as to the future goals of the Greater Boise Auditorium District.

We think one of the options would be NO EXPANSION and live within our means, providing a first class moderate sized facility (present structure) and perhaps explore the potential of a future expo at the Fairgrounds–sort of like having Obama and the Repubs work together on a balanced budget.

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  1. Eyeball ON This
    Jul 10, 2011, 9:56 pm

    Boise is not a convention destination. You have to think Los Angeles, New York, Atlanta, New Orleans, Portland, Seattle, Chicago and all the other big cities that have the big city vibe going for them.

    Boise is not well served by the Airlines, it isn’t close to anything close to the cities mentioned above. But, we do have a bunch of loose cannons who can’t wait to build another Idaho Center or worse that will have to be fed millions to stay afloat.

    If we build it, they ain’t gonna come. Boise offers a lot for those who live here but it is not convention bait by any stretch of the imagination.

    The “independent report” says just what those commissioning the report want said. It isn’t worth the paper and ink used to put it together. How many times do voters and citizens have to say HE!! NO to this flight of fancy?

  2. The one they have now is empty most of the time. The best place in the world for conventions/parties is Las Vegas and they are having a hard time. This scam is no different that the Canyon gang giving away “extra” money. These guys are needing to spend money to keep their friends happy by making work and cash flow.

    We are A VERY LONG WAY from the end of the tunnel. Even Obama man says so: http://news.yahoo.com/geithner-says-hard-times-continue-many-150523958.html

  3. FAMILY ADVOCACY FACILITY http://www.facesofadacounty.org/

  4. I would love to have Antiques Roadshow come to town and we would need a new facility to meet its requirements. But I also think the future of large convention/conferences with sales & samples expositions attached will shrink not expand in the coming years. And, I second the comment above about the airlines and Boise’s location.

  5. I am trying to understand Anne’s comment about Antiques Road Show. We build a new convention center they come to town and then what? I am still waiting to hear an audited number of how well the Special Olympics did here in Boise. I know the promoters did well but just how much money did this venue bring to Boise?

    The easiest thing is the world is to spend other people’s money. The recession we find ourselves in right now is more about self control or should I say lack of self control.

    Who would have thought people with no money and bad credit would default on their cookie cutter, over-priced house. Not everyone should own a home and likewise not every city is going to be a major convention city. If we build it they more than likely will not come and the place will sit empty.

    I remember when the Lakers left the LA Sports Arena for the Forum. The Sports Arena sat empty for years and years at taxpayer expense. These things are White Elephants and are a huge drain on taxpayers. Not even LA could figure out a use for the Sports Arena when the Lakers left.

  6. Boise is not a convention town. Not enough hotel rooms and no hotel chain would be dumb enough to build another hotel just for the overflow from a “possible” convention.
    Also, there is not enough to do in Boise for for those without a rental car. A person can see everything in 1.5 days if they are interested in what we have. Our public transportation is pathetic.

    And..as I have said many times on BG, successful convention towns have plenty of working girls and full on nudie shows. That’s why Portland is so popular.

    Anyone who supports a large convetion center in Boise just wants to take your money.

  7. People who think a bigger convention center is better and will generate business are the same people who think stimulus money will create jobs. All it will create is massive debt and no jobs.

  8. I agree with Zippo.

  9. Rod in SE Boise
    Jul 11, 2011, 4:29 pm

    Actually, dog, stimulus spending DOES create jobs. The right kind of stimulus, that is. However, the last stimulus package (2009, I believe) was about 50% tax cuts, which NEVER produce ANY jobs.

  10. I agree Rod, a stimulus program like the CCC. The new word for rich people allergic to paying any taxes, is “job creators”. The so called job creators would call a jobs program like the CCC “socialisim”. None have the courage to call farm subsidies, or any kind of corporate tax loop holes, “welfare”.
    The trickledown voodoo economics of Reagan only created unsustainable service jobs
    based on a mountain of debt. Thanks rich job creators for the new economy of nothing.

  11. Mike Murphy
    Jul 12, 2011, 8:44 am

    Upon receiving very good advice from a prominent citizen, I have issued the following Press Release to the Boise Guardian and other Representatives of the Fourth Estate . . .

    PRESS RELEASE – FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    ————————————————————————

    Re : Open Governance

    With the support of Boise City Councilman TJ Thomson, Boise City Councilwoman and CCDC Board Member Lauren McLean, and GBAD Chairman of the Board Hy Kloc, I – as a Private Citizen – call upon any-and-all present and future “Sub Political” and “Quasi Governmental” entities (i.e. CCDC, GBAD, the “Must Join” DBA and the de facto quasi governmental Capital City Public Market) within the City of Boise to begin immediately Webcasting and Archiving any and all meetings, as does the Boise City Council [ http://www.cityofboise.org/city_clerk/councilvideo ].

    Whereas their meetings are presently generally held in the Middle of the Day, in the Middle of the Week, this will allow greater transparency and accountability to the average citizen and the media who may not be able to attend these meetings, nor have the time to pour over transcripts that do not necessarily convey the “whole story” in the first place: and,

    Whereas webcams can be had for for as little as $20.00; and,

    Whereas services such as YouTube and UStream provide cost free video streaming and archiving; and,

    Whereas I can see no reason whatsoever why any “Sub Political” or “Quasi Governmental” entity that purports to operate in an ethical and efficient manner would object to such a proposal;

    It is my hope that the Members of the Fourth Estate will consider and present this proposal to their readers, listeners and viewers for their consideration.

    In parting, it bears mentioning that while the aforementioned support this call for more open governance, TJ Thomson – and presumably Lauren McLean and Hy Kloc – understandably do not support my previous efforts to provoke the public discourse and awareness of the CCDC [ http://www.boiseweekly.com/CityDesk/archives/2011/07/06/boise-man-has-choice-words-for-ccdc ].

    Additionally, I have no political aspirations, nor an agenda beyond what I have stated herein.

    ————————————————————————–

    END OF PRESS RELEASE

    Thank You for your time and consideration of this matter,

    Sincerely,

    Mike Murphy

    I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. – - U.S. President Abraham Lincoln

  12. Rod in SE Boise
    Jul 12, 2011, 3:38 pm

    Correct, dog, the “job creators” are sitting on their cash and not creating anything.

    And, of course, ol’ Abe Lincoln was right about most everything.

  13. Actually Rod, any stimulus that relies on a measurement so fluffy as ‘Jobs created or saved’ is not a stimulus but is instead a partisan slush fund…as it was.

  14. The definition of “consultant”?
    Someone you hire to make recommendations when you are too stupid to figure it out on your own! Or, someone you hire to tell the public what you want to do, but are too “snakey” to have your name attached, so you “hide” behind the recommendations!

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