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Some Things Never Change In Vietnam
THE FOLLOWING IS ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE ON PRESENT DAY VIETNAM FROM GUARDIAN EDITOR DAVE FRAZIER.
It had been 41 years since the infamous Tet Offensive and the Battle of Saigon in early 1968.
BUI VIN HOTEL, 1968 and 2009
I was curious how things looked along Bui Vin Street, my home for a year as a GI, back when I had hair and a slim waist. Anticipating the visit, I scanned some old photos and brought them along–shots of the local kids with a woman and some individual kid shots.
Sp4 FRAZIER 1968
The first guy I talked to on the street immediately recognized the players and quickly fetched the woman. She looked at the picture, realized that I was one of the GIs and offered only a hint of a smile. She showed the image to a very old lady who studied it closely, began jabbering in Vietnamese and soon everyone within earshot had a picture they were studying.
WOMAN WITH PHOTO FROM 1968
One guy of about 25 spoke some English and gave me a rundown on the subjects: One kid was dead, another 8 year old is now 50 and in prison for 7 years. Most had moved away, but the parents still lived in the crowded alleyway and hung out on the street.
MOM WITH PHOTO OF SON, NOW 50.
Where once there was a crowded street and alleys with poor people and American soldiers, there are now the same poor people and backpacker tourists seeking cheap rooms and “local food.” Despite 58,000 dead Americans and perhaps a million dead Vietnamese, not much has changed. Instead of
“free” poor people, they have a Communist government, but the war is truly a faded memory for some and ancient history for most because it happened long before they were born.
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Feb 21, 2009, 5:05 am
“began jabbering in Vietnamese ”
A bit of bias here, soldier. When you visited England, I don’t recall you saying someone there “began jabbering in English.”
In fact, you said in this story that one guy “spoke some English,” not “jabbered some English.”
So, maybe the lady spoke or talked Vietnamese, eh?
EDITOR NOTE–I was ready for this one when I CAREFULLY chose the word. Due to my lack of language skills, Vietnamese was jabber…my English was no doubt jabber to her. In her excitement she jabbered in any language. The movie “BABEL” with Brad Pitt explains language barriers very well.
Feb 21, 2009, 6:48 am
Holy Macaroni and Cheese there Sp4 Frazier!
Feb 21, 2009, 11:10 am
Wow Dave, you were cute!!!! What happened?
EDITOR NOTE–Gravity and genes conspired against me. However, I know now what I didn’t know then.
Feb 21, 2009, 1:44 pm
This is truly amazing and ignore Gordon because what you have done here is incredibly important, bringing closure to that difficult year in your life. I knew you when you had hair and a military waistline because you had recently returned from Nam. I am so glad that you are sharing this trip.
PBS aired a wonderful documentary about a Vietnam family that had immigarted to the US and 40 years later returned to visit relatives. This was memorable as well.
I can’t remember if you commented on the Nam experience when you worked at The Statesman. Why did we all take this so lightly in 1968 the newsroom? We had an eyewitness to history and we never sought you out on your expeeriences.
Dave Zarkin, a former Idahoan.
Feb 21, 2009, 10:30 pm
OK, Guardian.
Guess maybe you should have had a note at the top:
“Warning: Watch movie Babel before reading this”
Hey, Zarkin: Whaddya mean “ignore Gordon”? You know nobody’s ever been able to do that!
I’m a professional thorn in the side (ask any of my bosses at The Idaho Mistakesman).
Feb 22, 2009, 7:05 pm
Whaddaya mean, Sara? He’s still cute! 😉
Feb 23, 2009, 11:23 am
Nice read. Would have liked it to be longer and more in depth.