Dave, what is this rant relating to specifically? Any reader of your website can easily conclude your opposition to any tax incentives for businesses, but this Mose recent diatribe is informative of nothing. The real bottom line: while not every idea or program is as successful as the GUARDIAN would like, that doesn’t mean it’s as much as a failure as the GUARDIAN would have its readers believe – especially in the long term.

Government is much more complex than a simple logical formula (if x, then y). Things like tax credits, fee waivers, and investments may result in losses in the short term (maybe in the long term too), but often these programs pan out in long run or in ways not quantifiable in terms so easily dispensed with by the GUARDIAN.

For example, suppose Boise didn’t have a greenbelt and team Dave initiated one such program and buit one. I have no doubt that the GUARDIAN would oppose such a program and once completed chalk it up as wasted money because it’s contobution is difficult to quantify (much like the cities walkable city programs).

Investments by government can’t be judged on the same scale you’re espousing becausing government programs are long term investments in things that are often unquantifiable like happiness and access and quality of life.

Furthermore, and perhaps most importantly, the GUARDIAN too often ignores that Boise is in Idaho, which provides a serious deferent to good jobs and a quality workforce.

I like the Guardian and am a frequent reader, but Dave, as if the last couple of years your slant on the news is becoming too much slant and not enough news. Maybe it’s time to pass the touch?

EDITOR NOTE–We have commented on RECENT REPORTS from the Statesman and others like Idaho Reporter. NONE of the issues were generated by the GUARDIAN. We felt the Statesman left a void with regard to the airport fee story and attempted to get the info. Today the response was essentially a refusal to tell citizens how much is past due at the airport. Also, the Chobani report is fresh today from Idaho Reporter. Your greenbelt example rings hollow. “Community investment” is a worthy goal. Offering corporate welfare is a loosing proposition.

Government knows what’s best for you:

http://moneysaverhq.heraldsun.com.au/news/government-grabs-360-million-from-idle-household-bank-accounts/story-fnkrnsiy-1226950657835

I suspect one man’s “corporate welfare” is another man’s “community investment.”

Certainly one position is to say NO to all of it, but in current times that truly is a no growth position. Notwithstanding that all situations are different, and all are complex, it might make sense to set a standard business investment incentive index that is easily awarded and easily understood by the voters.

A hypothetical might be a 50% (state) tax waiver the first year of operation, 25% year two, and 10% year three. This to attract a job creating business and assist them with getting on their feet. It is still a net gain of tax monies we would not otherwise have had, and of course the employment helps too.

One rub of course is the intersection of local and state politics and the authority to make such deals. But a standard “template” for such investment could be built and it would certainly improve transparency.

In support of Dave’s point, from 2012:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/us/how-local-taxpayers-bankroll-corporations.html?pagewanted=all&module=Search&mabReward=relbias%3Ar&_r=0

“…A Times investigation has examined and tallied thousands of local incentives granted nationwide and has found that states, counties and cities are giving up more than $80 billion each year to companies. The beneficiaries come from virtually every corner of the corporate world, encompassing oil and coal conglomerates, technology and entertainment companies, banks and big-box retail chains.

“The cost of the awards is certainly far higher. A full accounting, The Times discovered, is not possible because the incentives are granted by thousands of government agencies and officials, and many do not know the value of all their awards. Nor do they know if the money was worth it because they rarely track how many jobs are created. Even where officials do track incentives, they acknowledge that it is impossible to know whether the jobs would have been created without the aid…”

Voter,

Has it ever occurred to you that it is you that is in the minority?