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Despite Threats, No Fireworks Tickets


The GUARDIAN sympathizes with local police and fire officials in Boise when it comes to the dangers of illegal fireworks, but even after promises to crack down on violators, it seems no tickets were issued despite more than 300 reports of illegal fireworks over the July 4 weekend.

Idaho law is without any teeth on the issue of illegal fireworks–generally described as “aerial fireworks with an explosion.”

Dealers sell the big boomers and require customers to sign a worthless document saying they will not be used in Idaho.

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16 comments for “Despite Threats, No Fireworks Tickets”

  1. Guess I’m the exception. If it wasn’t for the neighbors setting off their “illegal fireworks” it wouldn’t be the fourth. I’m old enough to remember when we could buy all kinds of fireworks and set them off without about a bunch of fuddy duddies complaining about them. And no, we didn’t blow our fingers or any other part of out bodies off or burned the neighbors house down. We set off skyrockets, roman candles, M-80s, and all kinds of assorted fire crackers. To my neighbors who set off all those “illegal fireworks”, thank you.

  2. Brian e Vermillion
    Jul 9, 2019, 8:31 pm

    You’re incorrect, the law has teeth but without any enforcement it is worthless. The situation in Nampa is completely out of control and if you call the police they will politely say ” we’ll put your complaint in line”, knowing that there’s no chance of responding in a timely fashion. If they do show up the complainer is the one who is questioned, id’d etc. No city council member has the testicular fortitude to “ruin” peoples celebrations on the fourth. Besides, the animal shelter charges 109.00 for every stray they pickup and return to the owner.

  3. Deep Midnight
    Jul 10, 2019, 6:57 am

    Geo you are not the exception, so don’t worry. No one cares about this issue except the police, their minions, and those will not stop at calling the police over fireworks in order to control how you live; because you know these sorts of people know what lifestyle is best for everyone.

    Some are concerned about fires but the statistics on the matter are kind of low.

  4. Like many things in our life it is very easy to pass a law or say we are really really going to enforce this law. But enforcing a law is much harder if not impossible. All you have to do is take a drive downtown. Electric scooter that are very popular now. How can the police enforce the rules? https://www.bird.co/safety/ Drinking or being drunk… I’m seeing a bike bar driving party goers to all the bars downtown. And blocking the streets with the bike bar as they drive around.. https://www.pedals-pints.com Speeding… just take a drive on the freeway at the speed limit and hope you don’t get run over by the folks going 90 and in a big hurry. Very little enforcement. Only time people slow down is when they see a police car.

    Unless we want a police state I think the police will only enforce the important laws. But our solons need to be careful about the laws they pass and think about how will it be enforced.

    When they allow illegal fireworks to be sold outside of the city limits of Ada County how can you expect the police to arrest everyone that are shooting them off.

  5. Organized Theft
    Jul 10, 2019, 10:24 am

    Editor, don’t give them any excuses to take more taxes. The three democrat/libs running Ada county just announced the desperate need to take more of our money from prior years. The money will not be used for the stuff they say either because two of them have a long list of Bieter projects to waste money on.

    Never gonna stop fireworks. It is disappointing to need to stay home just in case.

  6. I don’t like the fireworks just because one night of noise is hard on the dog… so we leave town or I can medicate him. But the ones the neighbors have can (and do) last for a long time. Ok, if you don’t sleep with your windows open or if you are a heavy sleeper and don’t have a dog who doesn’t like the sound.

    Organized Theft…. when will they have want less taxes, cut spending? You sure have your name spot on!

  7. Well, I guess all you ‘fireworks encouragers’ have never stood on the Bench and watched the fires blazing across the foothills. If you had, you might just feel differently about this. I’ve lived in Boise since 1970 and have seen quite a few disasters over the years. That’s just one reason why wood shingles are no longer allowed on homes — they burn really, really fast. Once, I even saw a fire engine go up in flames. With even a slight wind, horses in their barns or even in their pastures will also burn to death. If you want to see fireworks blasting off, then go someplace where it is professionally displayed !!!

  8. Accountability
    Jul 10, 2019, 10:19 pm

    Organized Theft – thanks for the update on the tax issue covered last night. Have not had a chance to hear the status. Seems like the County and the City both loved the idea of growth – for the fun stuff that can be done with all the new revenue – all the while simply forgeting that more people means more issues, more homeless, more crime, fires, dead bodies to house, etc. That costs money too – but none is left because it was all blown on the fun & sexy stuff! Or was this all intentional, all the while knowing the “clawback” of taxes is always a backstop?

  9. I agree there needs to be enforcement of the illegal fireworks laws, and it the loophole of sales in the state where they are illegal needs to be closed. It is not a matter of freedom, it is a matter of safety. Some of these mortar rounds are capable of throwing flames at a diameter of over 100 feet as they explode in the air. If they explode at the altitude they are designed to it causes no harm, but when some hair-lip decides to detonate them at 20 feet off the ground it can cause a great deal of damage.

    I have lived in Boise all of my life and it used to be you might see a bottle rocket or roman candle on the 4th, but it was rare to see these mortars unless you were at a professional exhibition, now days everyone seems to be setting them off. And as for the fuddy-duddy comments by some of the other commenters I am much younger than most commenters on this page. I also like to have fun, but I do not do it at the potential expense of others, sans I do not shoot illegal fireworks off on the 4th.

    To comment on some of the erratic and misinformed comment regarding the “claw-back” of taxes. Educate yourself first on the projects these dollars are going towards, primarily the new Coroner’s facility, an expansion of the Jail, and a new Driver’s license facility. Hardly legacy projects like Team Dave’s exorbitant Library or ill-planned Sport’s Complex.

    I agree there needs to be fiscal restraint, but to mass-categorize government officials tax-and-spend, or any other connotation or any other description of “as all of the same” is as ignorant as any other stereotypes. I would challenge all of those in the comment section to take a step back prior to commenting and actually educate yourselves prior to spouting off discontent.

    As for some of the growth comments on growth, taxes, and the like we are going to have to do a better job dealing with those issues. We as citizens need to demand that everyone pays their fair share for the expansion of these services, hear that government officials? No special deals or exemptions on your taxes for moving here, no forgiveness on impact fees by certain religious affiliated friends of friends of P&Z, Commissioners, Mayors, Legislators, etc. Also there needs to be impact fees levied on developments that cause downstream effects, traffic, etc (hear that Ada County Commissioners?). The long and the short of this is that if we were to eliminate just a handful of these sweetheart exemptions given in most every situation listed above, we would all pay less, except the few (St Alphonsus, St Lukes, Micron, Scentsy, Simplot, Brighton and a number of other development companies getting their 75+% off discount on values for their land holdings) that would now being paying their share of the burden that we all are paying for now. Not to mention the massive growth in Urban Renewal agencies, which is just a non-governed extension of the Team Dave’s budget in the city of Boise.

  10. Organized Theft
    Jul 11, 2019, 8:26 am

    So, smarty-pants, What happened to the enormous amounts of money they already have? How did this crisis develop? Like irresponsible children they blew the wad and now they want more. To get more they make it sound like they are taking it for important responsible stuff. Otherwise the parents will say no. It’s a trick. A shell game. I know exactly what I’m talking about you fool. And yes they are Bieter Bots doing what they are told. You help them by making irresponsibility look so complicated. It’s theft.

  11. Great picture!

  12. As mentioned in a MSM piece last year, Idaho’s fireworks law is a lot like this:
    Imagine the Idaho Legislature passing a law allowing sales-stands in any Albertson’s parking lot (or Dollar Store in our cheap towns) to temporarily sell marijuana for 2 weeks in April.
    But,,,, the buyer has to sign a document stating they will NOT USE the marijuana in Idaho and will instead take it out-of-state to actually use it.
    Would any GOP legislator sign on to that? LOL!
    Yet, they can’t apply that same principle to their fireworks laws.

    The fine for a fireworks violation -misdemeanor.
    Using fireworks in August – a $100 fine.
    Possession of 4 oz of marijuana – a FELONY.
    Possession of a plant not affecting anyone else- BAD.
    Possession of fireworks that is guaranteed to impose harm or inconvenience (noise and fire) on someone else- no big deal… legal.
    btw the SALE of paraphernalia is a felony subject to $30,000 or 9 years.
    Sale of aerial fireworks expected to be used within Idaho- perfectly legal.

    Conclusion: Our state is being run by idiots!

    And then there are comments like the above, ‘the statistics on the matter are kind of low’.
    Well, the cost of the 2016 Tablerock fire is not low! $400,000 and we TAXPAYERS pay for that ‘statistic’. That’s a fact!
    Idiot citizen voters = idiot representatives.

    Statistics don’t matter when it’s YOUR house. https://www.eastidahonews.com/2017/07/fire-caused-by-fireworks-burns-2-pocatello-homes/

    As to Porcupine’s comment of enforcing the “important laws”.
    Again, IF IF IF it is your house or property damaged- that is a VERY important law! Enforcing that law would have to be one of the easiest to do so. Easy to see! It’s usually not a 1 time use. And lots of help reporting violations. No excuses coppers!
    and fire depts can also enforce Idaho’s existing fireworks laws– instead of sitting in the fire station.
    BPD certainly likes to enforce the DUI laws ($$) and that can be truly difficult. I think the two violations (and text/driving) are similar- VERY risky! Not so probable to cause harm -but then it does, the harm can be most severe. When outcomes of offenses are similar,,,, enforcement, and punishment should be similar.

    light em if you got em!

  13. Deep Midnight
    Jul 11, 2019, 6:15 pm

    Ha Ha, I loved reading Organized Theft’s comments. I felt the same reading possibly a different comment made by DB. Its sure pretty, what that person wrote, and it sounds nice too. The only problem is they sound like a liberal; why do they always accuse the rest of us of being stupid or unable to think about our words prior to posting?

    Reading it, it looks this person thinks the rest of us are rednecks; which with the sun and the amount of manual labor that still needs to be done this season, we probably are.

    To DB, I would challenge you to get a real job; hand to mouth, salt of the earth type. You might then meet people who you once deemed as dumb rednecks, and maybe you will see that we are not.

  14. Maybe the state should allow POT stores to open in Idaho and customers would sign a release that they would blow smoke towards Oregon or Washington!

  15. Deep Midnight
    Jul 13, 2019, 5:33 pm

    Easterner, a statistic is the number of times a firework causes a fire, not the amount of damage that fire creates. The amount of damage a fire creates is up to too many variables and therefore is a made up fact which you have morphed to fit your argument.

    I hardly think my comment qualifies as a reason to call me an idiot. I am glad to know you think everyone but yourself is an idiot though; you a liberal?

    I see a whole lot of this one minded non-speak coming from liberals which is very passionate Ill grant you but ultimately filled with nonsense. The trouble is, you folks are just too angry over nonsense facts, but you have plenty of conclusions about those facts…which usually its that everyone but yourselves are idiots.

    You dont seem like you have many friends. Maybe one day you could come over for a day of manual labor in the sun and Ill give you a few beers. Nothing that soothes the wounded soul better than hard work and a cold drink. We could BBQ. I find all 3 things especially conducive to calming people down and creating a community instead of calling people idiots.

    EDITOR NOTE–I try to filter out the name calling, but Eastie seemed to be referring to the legislature, not an individual. Nice offer on the beer and BBQ.

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