The Statesman says this is not a manifesto and urges people to calm down. Perhaps they are right, but it certainly is a liberal’s wish list. No one can dispute that it it is a trial balloon, and that the good folks at city hall were watching the reaction closely. It reminds one of a union negotiating team asking for the sun, moon and stars and then begrudgingly settling for the moon. I think it is downright charitable they are talking of raising property taxes “only” two percent while the Bieter group always took the maximum three per cent. The campfire song for this year is “California, Here I Come.”

Dave,
Thank you for helping expose this aspect of laurie and her mentor’s nefarious agendas. They threw so much “crap” out there, hoping that some might stick, that it is difficult to know which subversive ideas to refute first. I still need to take time to read her other manifestos to see what they are up to in thoose areas.

You are spank on about their desire to molly coddle the juvenile criminals. Florida is just one of the more recent states to adopt this misguided handling of younger criminals. The young, deranged, diabloical Parkland mass murderer was the payoff for them.

The same approach has fomented and enabled punk murderers rom kali to Colorado.

Casmir and BSF are correct in their assessments.

And for those of you educated on the left coast by those indoctrinators, laurie needs to be Recalled, not Impeached.

Ah the the “L-word.”
Logic is a relative word. Yet our relatives never have any of it. ha!

“We can not put juvenile felons in adult jail (prison)”? Why not? Who says that is not “logical”?
They are FELONS! Many states allow juveniles in adult prisons/jails!

Over 4,000 juveniles in adult facilities prove not everyone agrees: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/youth2019.html
We could write about the racial disparity in those numbers, but that is another post (perhaps after MSP stops burning).

Rid the detention center of dumb, petty-theft kids and get tough with those hard-core ‘dangerous’ youth. What are they called? Greasers????
That sounds pretty RED to me. Let the parents deal with those punks! Not my tax dollars! MAGA.

Laws aside, statistics say using LESS juvenile detentions systems actually results in LESS juvenile crime. Weird, but still logical. (ibid)
Anyone want LESS juvenile crime? or is that only a thing for Democratic Socialists?

I’m not advocating here. I’m just fact checking. 🙂

EDITOR NOTE–Eastie, you are arguing with yourself. Idaho courts don’t allow juveniles to mix with adults. Make a point, but don’t troll please. The manifesto sought to CLOSE juvey detention, not reduce it. You create “greasers” then label it as red. Dial it back please. The post was an attempt at conciliation.

Before we let our city go down the tubes, we should take a little trip down Lefty Lane in a Tale of 3 Cities.

PLEASE WATCH and SHARE these….PLEASE

Excellent documentaries by KOMO News who had a belly full of the BS and decided to do some real journalism, as opposed to the usual MSM players….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw

https://komonews.com/news/project-seattle/a-tale-of-3-cities

McLean had an opportunity to show herself as a great leader. At a time when many of her supporters are out of work or laid off she should have never gone for a 2% budget increase (then tell us that they could have gotten 3%). How about cutting the city budget like many of the voters have had to do with their budget? Maybe even the city council taking a 5% pay cut? Symbolic but would have looked better than a 2% budget raise.

Then you would think someone would have told her that not only is the timing of this report not good….. but even in the best of times it would cause many people to gag.

I’m hoping that this will be a learning lesson for our new young mayor, but I fear she will not recover from this. If I remember our honorable salons passed HB 413 with a 53-16 vote, to require cities over 100,000 people to divide their city into districts for city council elections. Not sure what happened to that bill… but it would appear that the make up of the Boise City Council could change. Our mayor many not have the support she now has…..

JMHO

The manifesto shows poor judgment on the part of McLean. She may not have been ready to take on the job of Mayor, because it seems she was clueless about how this document would be received. When you propose wild ideas that are outside of the domain of a city government or impossible to implement, it makes her look like an amateur at best. My advice to Lauren: remember who pays your salary.

“currently live within one-mile of each other near the center of the City”

HB413 — the point withstanding, that is not correct.
Certainly those 5 may live ‘close’ and are in two primary areas, but it’s not A MILE.

I can think of two that are 4 miles apart- so says THE MAP. Just FACT-CHECKING here.

considering Boise is only 80 square miles and most of Boise is WITHIN 10 miles.
Adn what is good for downtown is good for all of Boise/Idaho. $$$$
From the Black Cliffs to Eagle Rd is 25 miles-
And Eammon makes racist, semitic, and sexist comments while living in Eagle.
So, council members within a few miles could be expected.
And THAT bill was generated by someone not living in Boise.

It is correct that the legislator behind this bill did not live in Boise, but the concept, effort and energy for the bill was initiated by a citizen who resides in Boise. A citizen can’t just present a bill, so the next step required that an elected member of the legislature shepherd the citizen(s) concerns/issue through the process.

Some additional explanation is needed regarding the statement in the post above that “five out of six City Councilors and the Mayor currently live within one-mile of each other near the center of the City (north and east ends)” This is an accurate statement that was used during the November 2019 election period and was based on the prior council membership, and when the reasoning and support for this bill was being sought.

This was clearly shown on a map being used at that time, but this site does not allow one to post the map that was used to show this. “Within one-mile of each other” did not mean that they all lived within a single one-mile radius, it is that they each had another council member located within a mile distance from their own residence, and all were clustered within close proximity in the North and East End Neighborhoods. The wording used was not the best way to describe the proximity. Since the last election, the council membership still remains relatively close to the same proximal area, as the new member (Patrick) is in Hyde Park. Jimmy is slightly further away at the Crane Creek Country Club, a short distance from the North End Neighborhood up Bogus Basin road.

EDITOR NOTE–Wonder if any councilors will move to the Bench in order to keep their seat.

I believe Captain Lee’s MIGRATION is not on his own. You and I will be paying his moving tab.
I’m concerned that the Boise Police department didn’t have someone in the ranks capable of having been groomed into a captain’s position. It doesn’t say much of the quality of our public servants. Especially the elected ones.

We have to ask the question…the new mayor went police chief hunting from the start. Chief Bones didn’t last long. We’ve seen this pattern since Bieter went shopping for a new chief and found Masterson from Madison. Why? Why not hire a local, community bred BPD officer for our chief?

The answer is that you only do this if you are building a cadre of ideological based cabinet sitters, with a special agenda. Portland did this, San Fran did this, Seattle did this. Look how mayor Garceti took a knee and is now going to defund and most likely DISBAND LAPD.

How much longer before we hear City Hall contemplating disbanding BPD? It WAS a fav topic in Occupy Boise when I was involved. Once a crazy idea, now is gaining mainstream steam.

Disbanding the police means MOB RULE, plain and simple.

New police chief is on the Council Agenda to be inducted tonight.

“some things are illegal, unconstitutional, or ill-advised”.

sounds like a loyalist in 1775.
“Well, Mr. Jefferson, THAT idea is illegal.”

I’m pretty sure THAT is how laws get changed- so the consensus is no longer illegal.
The message (false labeled manifesto) is not to break the law– it is to change the law, change the policy, and change our ways, for the better for the community.

As the note above says, some are ‘afraid of change’.

Like childish, sexist Trump told a reporter in person “just relax” and “keep your voice down”.

Boise will be just fine. 🙂

Eastie, Eastie, Eastie, what a fact checker you are. You have a unique view of the world – a street level view. Time to take to the air and get a bird’s eye view of the world. Have to wonder where you got your “facts” from. “The Map”? Pray tell, where is “The Map” to be found?

Please enlighten us as to your claim that from the Black Cliffs to Eagle Rd is 25 miles. What is the intersection that intersects Eagle Rd to get that 25 mile figure? Is that 25 statute miles, 25 nautical miles, or maybe 25 kilometers?

Also, please enlighten us about your comment that “most of Boise is WITHIN 10 miles.” Within 10 miles of what? In some cases, at least two, the City is about 20 nautical (air) miles long.

According to a Boise City planner I spoke with the City is now about 85 square miles. Might want to update your information.

As to your claim that the statement “…currently live within one-mile of each other near the center of the City” is incorrect is, in itself, incorrect. HB 413 was basically correct.

The 2019 Boise City Council members and the then Mayor came primarily from East and North Boise – 5 Council members and the Mayor.

The East End had two members (plus the then Mayor) who lived about a 1/2 nautical (air) mile apart at most. One Council member lived blocks from the Mayor, the other Council member about ½ a statute mile from the Mayor.

The North end had three Council members. Two of the three lived within a couple of blocks of each other. The third lived within a ½ nautical mile (or about a statute mile) of the other two.

So when one draws that magical one nautical mile radius around those 5 Council members and the then Mayor, they all lived within that one air mile radius hence the statement “within one-mile of each other” is basically correct. Perhaps phrasing like “within a one-mile radius” would have made things clearer. Not a hard concept to understand.

The statement that those individuals lived “… near the center of the City” is also correct. Whether you measure by nautical or statue miles all those 2019 individuals lived approximately one mile from City Hall. Some a bit more, some a bit less but generally within a mile (nautical or statute) of City Hall.

In 2019 elected political power in Boise resided in the East and North Ends. In 2020 that power (5 of 7 officials) shifted to the North End and The Highlands which some consider part of the North End. Oh, and that radius, it’s now about 2 nautical miles max. Probably less.

That concentration of power is one reason why HB 413 (the bill itself, not the writer) became law. The City had the authority to use election by district since, I believe, 1984, but chose not to use it. Now they don’t have a choice.

Just the facts Eastie, just the facts.

Bikeboy, no, not a committee member or Northender, just an average dog mom, cyclist and yogi with an open heart. Your definition of “public service” is not what I meant. It’s not about taking money from one to give to another, and I’m not super big on just handing out money; I prefer a handup over a handout. I meant, take the time and effort to critically think about and discuss what present society needs, and then do something about it. Run for office instead of criticizing those who do, or volunteer on a local citizen board. Fill the gas tank or pantry of somebody out of work. Teach English to refugees and learn to cook their food in exchange. Spend $10 more at your locally owned store than on Amazon. Simple things to help each other out. We’ve become so individualistic, so intent on stacking that pile o’cash, that we’ve forgotten how to work together as a community. But does it sometimes take money and government programs to lift someone out of poverty or addiction? Yes. As Dave referenced, something along the lines of the WPA (or CETA, when I was a kid) would be a great start. Help people struggling in these tough times get an education, a job, somewhere to call home, find meaning in their life, and they become a productive member of society and eventually give back. I’ve seen it happen time and again. In doing so you’ve helped not just them, but their future family members and our community as a whole. And it’s much cheaper in the long run than incarceration or our current government programs that simply perpetuate the cycles of brokenness. I don’t know what the right answer is. But I’m out there helping to find it in my own way. 🙂

Boise is screwed. We were screwed with Bieter who was a puppet for the CCDC and a legend in his own mind, and now we are screwed with McLean who is a puppet of the SJW’s who have infiltrated Boise. Her so-called transition advisors were almost ALL adovocates for the very same feel-good garbage that has been the ruination of every great city in the U.S. Now she is going to import a police Chief from one of the most radical, hard left cities in the U.S. – Portland. Where criminals run rampant in their downtown district unabated. I have lived in Boise for 50 years and am getting out while the getting is good before the liberal locusts finish taking it down permanently. I’ll be somewhere else before that happpens. Good luck, most of you don’t know what’s coming down the pike.

So, as many of you might be aware of the world’s newest nation, CHAZ or as some call it, Antifastan…I can tell you that as one who joined Occupy Boise in its beginnings and gave it a chance, I will state that the very reasons why I left is precisely that it began to emulate the anarchist folly that we see in Seattle and elsewhere. It began as an attempt to address legit issues and quickly descended into the identitarian hell that it became.

And now, the PC Bolsheviks are running this “revolution” that is gaining steam. City “leaders” are acquiescing in rapid fashion. The rules governing these enclaves are like electric diodes, the path only goes one way….deeper in. Rethinking strategy is tantamount to ceding ground back to their perception of the establishment, which is so ironic because our establishment has become a snake that eats its own tail.

Taxes have already been levied on CHAZ businesses and at some point, great demands will be placed on residents. People there are going to learn what the Soviet system that they MIGHT have read about in school looked like. They are begging for resources to be shipped from outside the CHAZ. They used up all the available food. When do they begin demanding residents’ for their food? When do they demand a catalog of personal property to be submitted to the CHAZ resource committee? When do they demand all grass lawns be converted to gardens? How many will that feed?

Are there groups in Boise ready to replicate the same here?

Animal Farm wasn’t supposed to be a How To manual.

bikeboy, good point of the family, friends, church changing over the generations.

people no longer live near their parents and grandparents. Everyone can use help from a grandma.

friends are more temporary with all the relocations due to employment.

and people have seen the light to turn away from churches.

Just look how many commenters on here are from California. Are they guilty and the cause of your point?

And so we have evolved to use government to do things our social networks ‘used to do’ more of? Is that true?

Let’s look back:

In the 1930’s, were people “voluntary support[ed] by extended family, friends, church, etc????
That was generations ago.
And yet, the “pre-socialism” society still failed (before social security & medicare, and SNAP, and city shelters). Race wars and social injustice were rampant in the US in the 40 and 50s too (back in the days good ol days?)- people went to church on Sunday and still behaved like trds Monday thru Saturday.
So what is the change you regret?

INSTEAD, we’re actually getting better IMO. 🙂
we have a long way to go– sharing. caring. empathy. equality.
Yesterday’s Court ruling is an example of moving in the right direction (even if some churches disagree). Amen!

“INSTEAD, we’re actually getting better IMO. 🙂
we have a long way to go– sharing. caring. empathy. equality.
Yesterday’s Court ruling is an example of moving in the right direction (even if some churches disagree). Amen!”

Sir, this is a Wendy’s.

If the Mayor and Council truly support tax relief by not taking the 3% budget increase, then they need to make this choice mean something permanent by passing a Resolution to not “claw-back” any of the 3% in future years. This is allowed by State law. Otherwise this is just a temporary reprieve that will bite harder the second time around.

EDITOR NOTE–You are totally correct. Problem is a sitting council cannot make a binding resolution for future elected officials. Only the citizens have that right, as in spending matters like a bond debt. The answer is at the legislature.