ACHD

What It Takes To Earn Your Stripes

United States District Courts not only accept electronic filing of legal documents, they REQUIRE it. Apparently not the case with the Ada County Highway District.

The Ada County Commishes have agreed to pay about $3,000 for a designated crosswalk on Third Street just north of Front. There is an employee parking lot on the west side of the street and the Commishes want to insure the safety of workers so they don’t have to walk to the corner or risk a jaywalking ticket.

It would be nice if they would also put a crosswalk in front of the Courthouse so visitors could have the same consideration the folks at BoDo and Center on The Grove have–a midblock crossing on Front Street, depriving coppers reason to write jaywalking tickets. If that ever happens, it will cost about $200,000 and bring the Idaho Transportation Dept. into the loop.

Back when things were different, it would have taken nothing more than a phone call to get a couple of signs and have the white stripes painted on the street. Not these days. For starters, a crosswalk has to include curb cuts and ramps–that’s apparently the big expense.

Engineers of the Ada County Highway District met with ACHD Commish Sara Baker and Ada County Commish Sharon Ullman and all agreed to create the crosswalk on Third St. The County Commishes agreed to approve the expenditure. Ada Commishes sent an e-mail to all the ACHD Commishes: “Please consider this a formal request from the Board of Ada County Commissioners to proceed with the implementation of a crosswalk…”

ACHD Commish Rebecca Arnold responds, “I doubt that there will be any problem with getting that crosswalk put in since this has been a topic of discussion at an ACHD work session. However, we do need a letter from the Ada County Commission requesting it and acknowledging Ada County’s agreement to pay the cost.”

We won’t be surprised if the next ACHD meeting has Sara Baker on the carpet for cutting a secret deal with the county. Of course the bigger question will be whose names will go on the crosswalk memorial plaque!

SATURDAY 10/17/09 UPDATE: In a flurry of e-mails we received this one form ACHD Commish Rebecca Arnold. Looks like a short paper note to the ACHD and the crosswalk will be a done deal. Can’t we all just get along?
“Commissioner Ullman, we are not trying to be difficult but we are a little more formal about spending taxpayer funds and do still require signed documents that specify the terms of the agreement. Regarding your email, it was unsigned and did not include the financial terms involved in the arrangement. I suspect this could be handled by a properly signed one page letter proposal from the county that specifies who pays for what.
Thank you.
Rebecca”

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  1. costaprettypenny
    Oct 16, 2009, 8:09 pm

    Funny, this parking lot/crosswalk is not even in Baker’s district. At least that day she was not out here messing up District 5!

  2. So the irony goes on about common sense. Reading this story sounds like maybe some is missing.

  3. there is a signalized crosswalk on Front at 3rd and one at Avenue A… hardly a long hike for a pedestrian. If they are too lazy to go to the corner.. let them take their chances.

  4. $3,000 for a crosswalk? Guardian, let’s you and I grab a couple of paint brushes and go out there; we could do if for $2,000; we’d each get $1,000 and the county would save $1,000. Sounds like a win-win-win deal to me.
    Meanwhile, someone could investigate why somebody would get $3,000 for painting a couple of stripes.

    (Not sure what all this has to do with your first sentence, though, about electronic filing.)

    EDITOR NOTE– The ACHD wanted a PAPER letter after all parties had agreed and sent an e-mail to ACHD.

  5. According to Commish Ullman, an ACHD study counted an average of 80 peds/hour jaywalking Front St. in front of the court house.

    Is that significant?

    Sounds like a nice revenue generator for the city in the short term.

  6. Extreme ease of access to public buildings should be a primary concern when constructing them. In this regard, the Ada Co. courthouse is a MASSIVE FAILURE! There are vital services offered at the courthouse and nowhere else in the county, and getting inside is a huge pain in the ass. First of all, it sits facing a busy 6 lane highway masquerading a downtown street, so there’s no parking out front. The parking they have provided is PAY PARKING! I am outraged every time I am charged money because I have business that must be conducted at a public building. If you don’t want to pay to park in their garage, you can try the streets, but last I checked most of that has either been flagged “No Parking” or more meters have been put in place. The fee to park isn’t much to many people, but for the poorest among us it may simply be something they cannot afford. Parking a couple blocks away may not bother many people, but many people have difficulty getting around, and even the few blocks from free parking to the courthouse can be a significant barrier. All in all it adds up to a government more concerned with how the building looks from the street (it has an impressive facade, I’ll grant them that) than with how people will actually get inside to conduct county business.

  7. Casual Observer
    Oct 17, 2009, 6:29 am

    Sounds like classic ACHD operations to me. The main problem with traffic in this county is west of the Boise core, so they blew half the budget on the EAST Parkcenter Bridge. Here, the main problem is getting across front, so they target a crosswalk for 3rd. WTf?

    Is it in ACHD’s bylaws that they must get it wrong?

  8. Casual Observer is obviously not aware that Front Street is on the State Highway system and therefore is the responsibility of the Idaho Transportation Department. 3rd Street is one of ACHD’s roadway’s which is why they are targeting a crosswalk for that roadway.

  9. Clearly they work to serve themselves. I call it a joint effort to loot the taxpayers so the tax feed have a feeling of job security.
    Here’s the joke about all of this. These people honest to goodness deeply believe in their hearts that the average citizens are dishonest at heart. They rate all of us being equal to the worst of us. While this seems to justify to them to keep growing the big fat governments on all levels. For their own personal job security, truth be known. They can and do get away with this scam on the taxpayers because the watchdogs in our local media are not doing their jobs. Has anyone seen even once where the Statesman has bad mouthed a tax or the size of government?

  10. It seems some clarification is in order.

    There are two proposed crosswalks. One is between the employee parking lot west of Third Street and the courthouse, which is on the east side of Third Street. Employees in the courthouse have a side entrance, which provides them access without tying up the security entrance at the front door.

    The cost of the Third Street crosswalk is about $3000 in order to put in the required ADA accessible curb cuts.

    Could employees walk down to the crosswalk at Third and Front Streets and then walk back up to the employee entrance? Yes. But human nature is such that the vast majority of people cut across the street mid-block. In the grand scheme of things, I would rather keep our employees safe, and spend the $3000 to put in the ADA-compliant crosswalk. The cost of even a minor accident would be far greater.

    The front of the courthouse is a whole different situation. There, we have an average of 80 people per hour jaywalking through a heavily trafficked area. Nearly 27,000 travel that stretch of road per day. The cost of putting in a signalized crosswalk there, that would be timed with the other signals along Front Street, is $200,000. For that project, I am looking for grant funding.

    Why spend these dollars when people COULD use the existing crosswalks by walking a few blocks? It is counter-intuitive to walk a block in the wrong direction to access a crosswalk in order to cross a street and then walk back the other way again. Ideally, everyone would do it anyway. But they’re not. So I will continue to try to get a signalized crosswalk in front of the courthouse to ensure the safety of those folks who have to access services at this inconvenient Front Street location. For more information, please see my blog at http://www.sharonu.com/blog .

  11. Gee Costaprettypenny. I don’t see myself as only working for District 5 but I’ll respond to anyone that asks for help – even you if you’d ask for it.

    The crosswalk on 3rd from the employee lot to the employee entrance is an easy and quick fix.

    The crosswalk on Front is a more expensive deal and before any decision can be made, needs to get permission from the State of Idaho since it’s a state road.

  12. Casual Observer
    Oct 17, 2009, 1:50 pm

    To Carl, Sara, Sharon, and everyone else who talks about how hard it is to get a signalized crosswalk across Front Street, I direct your attention to the signalized, non-intersection, crosswalk about 0.5 miles west on Park Blvd.

    Or, how about the two associated with St. Lukes, across Main, and Idaho streets.

    If they can do it for MK/Washington Group/URS/St. Lukes, it ought to be easy to do it for the third largest governmental body in the state.

    Timm is exactly correct. Having a government building, at which some people are required to appear, without free or easy access is pathetic. The people who designed the thing may get the blame. From current incumbents, we need fewer excuses, and more completion dates.

  13. There is almost NO parking south of Front St., across from the courthouse. I know for a fact that the vast majority of the jay walkers have first illegally parked in the Winco parking lot, I see it everday. A crosswalk on Front St. would only serve to accomodate those who tend to disregard the rules, that is why they are going to the courthouse in the first place.

  14. Casual Observer – I don’t know the history but do you know if St. Lukes or MK/Washington Group/URS, or whatever they were called at that point, paid for the installation of the flashing lights. If so I would guess that the issue has more to do with who pays instead of how difficult.

  15. Right on, Joe.. further.. we hear a lot about 80 per hour (a figure I doubt) but how many pedestrian/car accidents have happened in the last 5 years there? I bet none. We need to quit enabling idiots.

  16. I’m sorry, but to both commissioners, you are saying that because city/county employees are too lazy and too self-engrandized to walk to an existing crosswalk, it is incumbent on the county to solve their lack of energy and lack of concern for the law? What a royal crock!! You are both way off base on this one if that is your only reasoning!

  17. Joe is the most observant one posting in this thread.

  18. Casual Observer
    Oct 17, 2009, 10:07 pm

    Carl,

    I too don’t know if MK et al paid for their own crossing. And, I don’t really care. Sara and Sharon get style points for fiscal conservatism. However, scrimping on the cost of the crosswalks is a little like the current owner closing the gate after the previous owner let the whole herd out of the barn.

    The cost of the courthouse, at over $100 million, and the way it was financed, is a scandal. But, it was done prior to Sara’s and Sharon’s shifts and is money that we will never get back.

    To claim that the crosswalk on Front might not be possible because, at $200,000, it is too expensive, is like leaning back in your chair after being treated to a $100 meal, and trying to dodge picking up a 20 cent tip! Frugal is one thing, this comes off as just plain cheap.

  19. Winco Shopper
    Oct 18, 2009, 6:52 am

    So, Mr.s ET and Most Observant, after I spend a healthy chunk of the monthly dole at Winco I am a cheater if I put the bags in the car and cut across the street to pick up tags at the assessor’s office?

  20. sam the sham
    Oct 18, 2009, 8:41 am

    Yes, they say that crosswalks require wheel chair access by having a ramp cut into the sidewalk… unless that crosswalk is on Vista Avenue. On the south west corner of Vista and Cassia there is no wheel chair access, nor is there one for the crosswalk in front of the Din Fung Cafe in the middle of the block (again, the south west side of Vista between Cassia and Camas Streets).
    I am convinced that this city ignores the citizens who live on the Bench when it comes to taking good care of them.
    No side walks on Kootenai or Roosevelt Streets even though there are three schools within a few blocks – Sacred Heart, Monroe and South. But this is off topic, sorry.

  21. Serendipity
    Oct 18, 2009, 9:47 am

    Sharon wrote: ” So I will continue to try to get a signalized crosswalk in front of the courthouse to ensure the safety of those folks who have to access services at this inconvenient Front Street location.”
    Right ON, Sharon.
    As one who cannot jay-walk fast enough to cross Front St safely unless for some weird reason there is no traffic, a signalised crosswalk is a total necessity there.

    And while we are at it, ACHD should lower speed lmits through downtown to 25: 25 would get 30, 30 gets 35-40. Traffic in downtown BOI is too fast for everyone’s own good. Tough if commuters can’t leadfoot thru town. It’ll give ’em more time to chitchat on their mobiles.

  22. If I ever get called for jury duty again I will refuse to show up and they can put me in jail. I hate that part of town and will never go there again on purpose.

    Meanwhile the Main St. and Fairview roads west of downtown are ghost towns…what great planning in the past.

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